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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 02, 2011, 09:17:52 AM
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The OP is about a homeless woman with 15 children; all her own children. The thread is supposed to be about people abusing the social support system.
I wholly expected the thread to degenerate into a pile-on about some unter-asshole porting-over stories from Fox that show blacks as shiftless, welfare-siphoning layabouts.
Nope.
The jackasses devolve into a 100+ baby-bash about how rich and fulfilled their lives are without children. Those posters who admit to having children are belittled and dismissed.
That's rather odd considering their thread about how words can be "transphobic": http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,67113.0.html
Supposedly, pointing the fact the people who are psycho-physiologicaly maladapted are psycho-physiologicaly maladapted now constitutes hate-speech.
But having children, a trait shared by the shitbags' own parents, is cause for shunning. Nevermind the fact that it is the prime evolutionary reflex of all species; life is supposedly better without children.
I think, perchance, this illuminates their psyches, as tiny as those are.
Pro-infanticide types often grouse that it is the religious-RW imposing its morality. Apart from the utter self-contradiction of that statement we know that DUmbasses like to project their worst traits on to others. I cannot help but think the reason that lefties hate children enough to murder them both in utero and out is because they do not value children. They see children as a burden. The only time children are permitted with paeans to charity is when the parents are to be made into wards of the state (read: liberal control).
Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 03:13 AM
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3. As someone who chose not to have children (yes, I know that sounds odd)...
I don't 'get' people who have kids. (Yes, I know). I do like kids, for a while, but I like being able to not have them. My time is mine, I do with it what I desire, and I love it. That's why it baffles me why any woman would be dying to have kids.
There are cultures within which getting pregnant is considered a romantic thing. I think the American culture is one of those cultures. There are some cultures in which it is far more romantic than in the American, but it's far too 'romantic' for my tastes.
What's REALLY scary is that I've heard high school girls actually EXPRESS a desire to have a child by this guy or that one. My hair stands on end when I hear that. What the hell for????? To tie themselves down? To stop their childhood and suddenly have to do a heck of a lot of housekeeping and childrearing? Do they not realize that their lives will change from enjoyable to being 24/7 nannies for the next 18+ years, and housekeepers, that they won't be able to have fun, and that their budget will drop dramatically? I think they're engaging in illogical thinking, being dreamers, thinking that money grows on trees, and babies change their own diapers.
Honestly, I DO NOT get it. I suspect the reality of getting pregnant and having kids needs to be taught in schools, and that the glorification of pregnancy and childrearing has got to stop. It has to be presented in the realistic light of what it truly is: a form of enslavement and impoverishment.
Sure, if one has a lot of money and can afford to hire nannies, housekeepers, and all kinds of help, fine. But to be poor, and want to diminish one's chances at living life even further? I don't GET IT!
Note this next exchange:
joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 03:16 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. You can have kids or you can have everything else
As the father of 3 kids, I can say fatherhood is worth every second for me.
REP (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 03:38 AM
Response to Reply #4
15. I chose everything else, including happiness and love
Oh yes. I'm child free.
Skittles (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 04:32 AM
Response to Reply #15
34. but don't you know, REP?
you cannot POSSIBLY be happy unless you reproduce!!! GET WITH THE PROGRAM!!!
NOTE: "skittles" is often a deragatory term for fags who are particularly fruity, i.e. "taste the rainbow"
Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 05:02 AM
Response to Reply #16
38. You are probably right.
I have no idea if they should be allowed to keep their babies or not, but they ought to be taught to think logically, rather than with half a brain.
Even if they were emotionally lonely and needy to begin with, how could getting themselves chained to an even needier creature, a helpless creature, an unbelievably expensive creature, do anything more than cause havoc in their already-f'd up lives? And how could they not realize that babies cost money, cry all the time, soil diapers non-stop, need, need, need and cannot supply them with caring, and that you can't leave them alone one second because they will die unattended?
They have to be off in la-la land to not be aware of these most simple realizations!
LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 03:18 AM
Response to Reply #3
6. Enslavement?
Most of us manage to lead happy lives that include being parents, without having the sort of budget that provides for nannies and housekeepers.
Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 03:30 AM
Response to Reply #6
10. It's not for me, and the glorification of it certainly is causing out of wedlock kids to be born all
over the U.S.
Mind you, abstinance training is supposed to be a failure because it's unnatural.
Apparently the glorification of family life is even more unnatural.
LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 03:38 AM
Response to Reply #10
13. I'm glad you know it's not for you...
concur. It's best that she not breed.
REP (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 03:40 AM
Response to Reply #13
17. There is tremendous societal pressure on women to have Mommyhood become their identities
Some girls may merely be buckling to that pressure early. No greater love and all, you know.
Your mom was such a tool.
If onl she had given more head, we wouldn't have to put-up with you.
Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 05:12 AM
Response to Reply #17
45. I'm so grateful that I never gave a damn that other people wanted me to procreate...
I have a preference that you NOT have children.
joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 05:38 AM
Response to Reply #45
60. And I bet many of them feel quite sorry for you.
The great thing is we can choose our own lives. It becomes sad when people feel the need to judge others for their choices.
Quantess (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 07:53 AM
Response to Reply #60
74. Are you not aware that the decision to not have kids is generally looked down upon?
I would think you can take a small amount of crap from a childless person to round out the glorious rays of sunshine from your parental glory.
joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #74
91. So, you are justfiying what you admit is judgemental behavior
Really, slow down and think about what you said for a minute.
gkhouston (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 03:53 AM
Response to Reply #13
21. +1. The youth minister at my church always recruits the teens
to help out during Vacation Bible School week. After a week with wall-to-wall kids, none of the teens are interested in parenthood until much later, if ever.
Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 05:12 AM
Response to Reply #21
47. You know, maybe that would be a good thing to do: have teens care for the little ones
They would be less quick to spread their legs and grow that enslaving belly!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2413826
And it goes on like that.
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SGT Snuggle Bunny
Those posters who admit to having children are belittled and dismissed.
I saw this thread yesterday and noticed the same things. What do you call someone who is upset because they feel as though others look down on them who then does the same thing in return?
The primitives don't need children because they *are* children.
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 05:12 AM
Response to Reply #17
45. I'm so grateful that I never gave a damn that other people wanted me to procreate...
DUmmie Sarah misunderstands the people around her telling her to 'f--k off' all the time.
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grow that enslaving belly!
Wow! An enslaving belly full of crotchfruit!
And Sarah Imaboobi thinks people want her genes to survive into a new generation?
Sarah Imaboobi is my current candidate for runnerup, in a close race with the DUmp's dick inspector.
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SoCalDem
16. The problem is that too many "baby-mamas" are 14-17 yr old GIRLS who hooked up with 18-25 year old MEN, who paid them some attention they were craving, and they thought they could get him to marry them and make a family...the family many of them never had.
These man-boys just go around impregnating young girls like Johnny Appleseeds, and never look back. They often have no jobs and no intention of supporting the kids they create along the way..
A young woman who started having babies at 14 or 15, could easily have 7 or 8 kids by the time she is 25.. As long as there is no social stigma to having children out of wedlock, and the government is there to lend a hand, it's easy to see why so many irresponsible (and uneducated) girls/women get on the merry-go-round.
It's generational too.. If these girls/women..boys/men grew up in families where abnormal is normal, they only know what they lived.
It's terrible to say this, but these young girls should not be allowed to "keep their babies". After a couple of pregnancies with nothing to show for it but stretch marks, maybe they would see the wisdom of birth control.
Sarah Ibarruri
You are probably right.
I have no idea if they should be allowed to keep their babies or not, but they ought to be taught to think logically, rather than with half a brain.
Even if they were emotionally lonely and needy to begin with, how could getting themselves chained to an even needier creature, a helpless creature, an unbelievably expensive creature, do anything more than cause havoc in their already-f'd up lives? And how could they not realize that babies cost money, cry all the time, soil diapers non-stop, need, need, need and cannot supply them with caring, and that you can't leave them alone one second because they will die unattended?
They have to be off in la-la land to not be aware of these most simple realizations!
But if a conservative/Republican were to say these things, they'd be racist and/or hate the poor.
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Well now, it looks like crazy Sarah just described the primitives:
.....a helpless creature, an unbelievably expensive creature.....cost money, cry all the time, soil diapers non-stop, need, need, need.....and that you can't leave them alone one second because they will die unattended?
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Wow! An enslaving belly full of crotchfruit!
And Sarah Imaboobi thinks people want her genes to survive into a new generation?
Sarah Imaboobi is my current candidate for runnerup, in a close race with the DUmp's dick inspector.
Aw C'mon! No Sub Atomic in the mix?
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Aw C'mon! No Sub Atomic in the mix?
SA was a one week flash in the pan. In no way a Top DUmmy candidate.
Imaboobi and the dick inspector have been working at their craft all year.
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 03:13 AM
Response to Original message
3. As someone who chose not to have children (yes, I know that sounds odd)...
I don't 'get' people who have kids. (Yes, I know). I do like kids, for a while, but I like being able to not have them. My time is mine, I do with it what I desire, and I love it. That's why it baffles me why any woman would be dying to have kids.
God this woman is selfish. ME ME ME! She is going to die old and alone on Obamacare :bird:
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As long as there is no social stigma to having children out of wedlock, and the government is there to lend a hand, it's easy to see why so many irresponsible (and uneducated) girls/women get on the merry-go-round.
This is SoCalDem? Has she been listening to Neal Boortz? Did the DUmp pile on her for such hateful, judgemental, freeper language?
Did anyone hear the soundclip they're talking about? "Someone needs to pay for aaaalll my keeeds. Someone needs to be accountable and pay."
Unbelievable.
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Stupid post of the day:
Aerows (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-02-11 12:58 PM
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184. Why do you think they hate gay and lesbian people, too? It isn't because we are taking our pleasure, it's because we aren't producing cheap labor to exploit.
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Wow! An enslaving belly full of crotchfruit!
And Sarah Imaboobi thinks people want her genes to survive into a new generation?
Sarah Imaboobi is my current candidate for runnerup, in a close race with the DUmp's dick inspector.
Good choice.
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202. Sadly the only pregnancy counciling(i)sic(/i) we can get the
government to spring for is funding groups that put up fake abortion clinics to mislead and harass women.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Dec-02-11 05:32 PM
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244. I don't understand why the govt simply doesn't deny funds to fake (Bible-banging) abortion clinics
No govt money should go to anything religious, even if it's remotely religious.
Hmmm...last time I checked, Planned Parenthood gets federal money, abortion clinics get federal money...and crisis pregnancy centers get NO federal money. They are 100% supported by donations. :loser:
I also wonder how they go about harassing women? I guess it must be those terrible services they offer...free pregnancy tests, free clothing, free diapers, etc. :lmao:
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Wow! An enslaving belly full of crotchfruit!
And Sarah Imaboobi thinks people want her genes to survive into a new generation?
Sarah Imaboobi is my current candidate for runnerup, in a close race with the DUmp's dick inspector.
Sarah Imadumbshit is definitely on my list. Maybe next year we can have a Most Ignorant C**t category, inspired by this twat, and others. Of course, the nominees wouldn't be restricted to the female gender.
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Wow! An enslaving belly full of crotchfruit!
And Sarah Imaboobi thinks people want her genes to survive into a new generation?
Sarah Imaboobi is my current candidate for runnerup, in a close race with the DUmp's dick inspector.
She has to be a mole.
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Hmmm...last time I checked, Planned Parenthood gets federal money, abortion clinics get federal money...and crisis pregnancy centers get NO federal money. They are 100% supported by donations. :loser:
I also wonder how they go about harassing women? I guess it must be those terrible services they offer...free pregnancy tests, free clothing, free diapers, etc. :lmao:
This DUmmie would flip a wig if they knew that the local Christian-inspired pregnancy center is allowed in the schools here, but the public school system continues to remain an affiliate, so long as they steer clear of any religious instruction.
In the last ten years, teen pregnancy in our area has dropped 24% Abortion rates in that same time have dropped by 50%. I pray that one day we'll see the PP "clinic" in our city close its doors forever.
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Sarah Imadumbshit is definitely on my list. Maybe next year we can have a Most Ignorant C**t category, inspired by this twat, and others. Of course, the nominees wouldn't be restricted to the female gender.
The Democrat Underground Member Beyond Completely Understanding Normal Thoughts Award? :naughty:
There should be plenty of contestants, I don't think it should be restricted. With the eclectic collection of homo sapiens over there I am sure the are plenty of seedless crotch fruits who should also be considered (the real girly men don't ya know).
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The Democrat Underground Member Beyond Completely Understanding Normal Thoughts Award? :naughty:
There should be plenty of contestants, I don't think it should be restricted. With the eclectic collection of homo sapiens over there I am sure the are plenty of seedless crotch fruits who should also be considered (the real girly men don't ya know).
:lmao: :lmao:
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"The only time children are permitted with paeans to charity is when the parents are to be made into wards of the state (read: liberal control)."
Or when they are used by liberal parents or liberal teachers as foot soldiers/ cannon fodder for their "Direct action" (aka "Vandalism, violence, looting & rioting") protests. Case in point: A few years ago arranging/ permitting a student walk- out from Berkeley public schools so they could use the kids as foot soldiers for one of their "Anti- Marines recruiting station" protests.
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Or when they are used by liberal parents or liberal teachers as foot soldiers/ cannon fodder ...
Which reinforces my theory that liberals only have use for people they can control.