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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tess Anderson on December 01, 2011, 12:26:05 PM
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Proud Public Servant (201 posts) Thu Dec-01-11 11:07 AM
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Fun thought experiment for your Repug family/friends
Tried this one out over Thanksgiving; worked like a charm. When stuck in conversation with Repug family or friends, try this out:
They have to pick a new country to live in. Here are the rules:
1. There is no possibility of them ever returning to the US (so no picking Canada or Mexico because they dream of sneaking across the border; they can pick either of those, but not for that reason).
2. They will magically be able to speak the language of whatever country they choose, up to the same level of fluency they now have in English.
3. Their income and net worth will be adjusted to reflect relationship to that country's average (e.g., if they make twice the income of an average American, they will make twice the income of the average citizen in their new country).
Ok, make them pick. I guarantee that they will pick a country with higher taxes, greater government social spending, more regulations on business and the environment, more gun control, more gay rights, and more leftist politics than the U.S. They will NOT pick a low-tax, small-government, regulation-free, socially conservative nation. And they will hate it when you point that out.
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*cough* mole *cough*, such a country doesn not exist.
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The question is kind of dumb since you would be FORCED to pick a place and no place is as good as here and no actual conservative would even think about leaving without a hellava compelling reason. But since I would be forced I guess I would go with New Zealand. Maybe Japan if they could also magically make it so they would not be racist toward a poor ol white boy like me.
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I've always found it interesting that the primitives, when talking of countries they'd like to move to, always unanimously name a place dominated by evil white men. They never want to join their brothers of color in Nigeria or Congo, or in India or North Korea, or in Paraguay or Cuba. It's always a country dominated by evil white men.
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Or, you know, you could talk about sports. Or what's good in theaters. Or how the kids are doing in school. Or plans for college. Or the new car that Uncle Joey bought. Anything but politics. I'm so glad my family has no one like the DUmmies in it. Well, there's my sister, but she's still enjoying the hospitality of the El Paso County, CO Sheriffs Dept...
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They obviously haven't considered that I/we might choose NOT TO LEAVE the United States, have they? Apparently they think that since THEY bitch about abandoning the "sinking ship", everybody wants to leave the Country. (Thus illustrating the consistent fault of DUmbass logic.)
My family have shed blood for this country since before it was a country, DUmbshit. Last ones in, first ones out; get moving. :killemall:
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I guarantee that they will pick a country with higher taxes, greater government social spending, more regulations on business and the environment, more gun control, etc. etc. etc....
Stupidest post of the day. You guarantee that, do you? My answer would be, I would like to go nowhere else. Now how much does your guarantee pay? Tess might be right. Possible mole.
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There's one simple thing the primitives don't consider when they point out countries with higher taxes, greater government social spending, more regulations on business and the environment, more gun control, more gay rights, and more leftist politics than the U.S. Any country they would pick that fits the above definition also has something else of which liberals have no use; that is, much, much less individual liberty and freedom.
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I suspect the family just looked him like he was some kind of kook, then went about normal conversation.
Stupid DUmpmonkey trying to play silly mind-games during Thanksgiving. :banghead:
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There is no other place greater than America. :mental:
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Honestly, I can think of a few other countries that I would be willing to live in. It is unlikely that I would choose to move, but if I were to move because of work or because I decide to marry a guy from another country I would have preferences on which ones I would be willing to move to.
However, I would turn the question back to the DUmmies, which countries would you identify that have small government, with low taxes, that are socially conservative? Honestly, the list isn't very long so by sheer force of numbers, most people will choose a country with higher taxes.
I'll be honest, my first choice would be Ireland, probably West Ireland, and from what I saw while I was there, they are fairly socially conservative. Australia would probably be my second choice, and politically they are probably about as diverse as the US.
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I'm descended of proud Scots, and can trace my family lines back to the earliest records of Caledonia. I'm proud of my Scottish heritage, but there is a reason my ancestors LEFT SCOTLAND.
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If I had a DUmmie relative that posed that question, I'd turn it back on them and ask which country they would rather in than the US. Then I would offer to pay their way to get there. Fortunately, I don't have any DUmmie relatives that I know of.
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That's just asinine. Why would anyone justify that with an answer?
Cindie
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I'd rather stay here and clean house, the Socialists can get out and go to those other more-Socialist climes, at gunpoint if necessary.
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They will NOT pick a low-tax, small-government, regulation-free, socially conservative nation. And they will hate it when you point that out.
Tell ya what, DUmmies--make a list of, say, eight or ten countries that fit that bill that AREN'T third-world shitholes. In fact, I'm kind of doubting you'd find more than one or two.
And having travelled more of the world than most of you shitheels, I'll stay here, thanks very much.
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Tell ya what, DUmmies--make a list of, say, eight or ten countries that fit that bill that AREN'T third-world shitholes. In fact, I'm kind of doubting you'd find more than one or two.
And having travelled more of the world than most of you shitheels, I'll stay here, thanks very much.
I will leave America kicking and screaming or dead as a door mouse.
However, if I for the sake of argument had to leave, I would want to buy an abandoned oil rig in good condition off shore enough to start my own country.
This has been done with interesting results by I believe a Brit family back in the early days of 1990. Issue my own stamps, and apply for foreign aid as a friend of America. Demand representation in the UN, perhaps rent parts of the rig out as a high level prison for the worlds worse offenders.
I my self would not have to actually live there, I could buy property anywhere in the world and have it designated as an Embassy, could sneak back into the US and live a couple blocks from the WH.----
I would then be able to buy a few more abandoned oil rigs, say in the North Sea, set up more prisons and do it my way. No TV, except Fox news, and the Pro-America Movies and the History Chanel, no visits from family
but on Christmass allow one video conference with the prisoner and family.
Wonderful way to make big bucks from country's afraid I will turn loose their worse people back to them.
Were I 40 years younger with bu coo bucks, I would consider this. Heck I have seen a dozen or so SCIFI movies on prisons in space.
We have a few hundred escape proof Oil rigs abandoned right here on earth that someone needs to take advantage of.
Just cannot get the Capitalist out of me.
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"I'm already living in Flyover Jesusland." :-)
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I would seriously have to research it. I wouldn't just pick a country out of the hat, especially when I never considered another country for anything other than a visit.
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I would seriously have to research it. I wouldn't just pick a country out of the hat, especially when I never considered another country for anything other than a visit.
Off the top of my head, Australia, Germany (I would have to wait for the EU to collapse) or possibly the Falklands (as long as I don't have to pay EU taxes or get shot at by Argentine military).
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Off the top of my head, Australia, Germany (I would have to wait for the EU to collapse) or possibly the Falklands (as long as I don't have to pay EU taxes or get shot at by Argentine military).
I was stationed in Germany back when it was West Germany. Nice place but even then the huge welfare state and the stop light cameras everywhere didn't appeal to me.
Plus you need a license for your TV!
Good beer, though, but the microbrew revolution takes that appeal away.
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I was stationed in Germany back when it was West Germany. Nice place but even then the huge welfare state and the stop light cameras everywhere didn't appeal to me.
Plus you need a license for your TV!
Good beer, though, but the microbrew revolution takes that appeal away.
The TV "license" funds public television... the BBC does the same thing.
I loved my visit to West Germany. We stopped in Switzerland as well, and I loved it.
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The TV "license" funds public television... the BBC does the same thing.
I loved my visit to West Germany. We stopped in Switzerland as well, and I loved it.
I think TV's are licensed according to size in England.
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I think TV's are licensed according to size in England.
They are. You used to have to pay different rates for B&W / color televisions. Lord knows what they have know.
Vehicle taxes were also based on engine displacement (probably still are). That's why high-revving small engines and manual transmissions are still popular in Europe as compared to a Chevy small-block and a slushbox 3-speed.
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I've always found it interesting that the primitives, when talking of countries they'd like to move to, always unanimously name a place dominated by evil white men. They never want to join their brothers of color in Nigeria or Congo, or in India or North Korea, or in Paraguay or Cuba. It's always a country dominated by evil white men.
As much Chavez worship as goes on at the DUmp, no one seems to want to move to his paradise either.
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The only country I'd chose would be Austria...and the laws have nothing to do with it. We have family there.
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The only country I'd chose would be Austria...and the laws have nothing to do with it. We have family there.
I have family in Old Blighty, but I would still not choose to live there.
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I'm descended of proud Scots, and can trace my family lines back to the earliest records of Caledonia. I'm proud of my Scottish heritage, but there is a reason my ancestors LEFT SCOTLAND.
I think most of mine left for the Cherokee and Monacan women. :rotf:
Honestly I would probably go to Israel.
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I am left wondering if Proud Public Servant is a mole attempting to be a complete idiot in order to fit in at the DUmp or if he/she/it is the real thing. With "real thing" being a complete idiot.
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Israel, Canada, Switzerland or Finland, in that order. Not for any deep political reasons like the DUmmies. Just cause they sound interesting.
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The question is kind of dumb since you would be FORCED to pick a place and no place is as good as here and no actual conservative would even think about leaving without a hellava compelling reason. But since I would be forced I guess I would go with New Zealand. Maybe Japan if they could also magically make it so they would not be racist toward a poor ol white boy like me.
That's the only way dimocrats/liberals/DUmmies operate.
Who else with a functioning brain would WANT what they have to FORCE upon us?
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Israel, Canada, Switzerland or Finland, in that order. Not for any deep political reasons like the DUmmies. Just cause they sound interesting.
Canada sounds interesting?
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There is no other place greater than America. :mental:
Hi 5.
For conservatives there is NO other refuge or place to flee too. In every instance we would be forced to surrender freedoms that only America can give.
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Israel, Canada, Switzerland or Finland, in that order. Not for any deep political reasons like the DUmmies. Just cause they sound interesting.
My choices--really, honestly--would be Svalbaard, Ascension Island, or the Falklands.
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Switzerland and Israel lets people own guns. So I would go there, get some guns, buy a boat, and come back to America and shoot the people who forced me out.
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Since the DUmmies seem to love these socialist, gun-hating, cradle-to-grave entitlements countries, why don't they leave and go to one of these countries and let us conservatives continue to live in a country without their lazy asses sucking off our hard work?
Which country would survive? I think we all know the answer to that one.
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Canada sounds interesting?
Yes, but I'm heavily biased. :p
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Canada sounds interesting?
If you're a hockey fanatic like me, yes... :-)
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The irony, of course, is that it's the liberals who regularly talk about how much they want to leave America and move to another country. The DUmp is filled with threads from idiots claiming they want to do that (Their favorite planned destination is of course Canada, but some have also suggested Europe). Conservatives tend to love the country they have too much to desire moving, and prefer instead to work to improve where they already live.