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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: Chris_ on December 01, 2011, 09:09:28 AM
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The Obama Administration has abruptly sealed court records containing alarming details of how Mexican drug smugglers murdered a U.S. Border patrol agent with a gun connected to a failed federal experiment that allowed firearms to be smuggled into Mexico.
This means information will now be kept from the public as well as the media. Could this be a cover-up on the part of the “most transparent” administration in history? After all, the rifle used to kill the federal agent (Brian Terry) last December in Arizona’s Peck Canyon was part of the now infamous Operation Fast and Furious. Conducted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), the disastrous scheme allowed guns to be smuggled into Mexico so they could eventually be traced to drug cartels.
Instead, federal law enforcement officers lost track of more than 1,000 guns which have been used in numerous crimes. In Terry’s case, five illegal immigrants armed with at least two semi-automatic assault rifles were hunting for U.S. Border Patrol agents near a desert watering hole just north of the Arizona-Mexico border when a firefight erupted and Terry got hit.
Judicial Watch (http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2011/nov/u-s-seals-court-records-border-patrol-s-murder)
Now why would Obama and Holder do something like that?
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Ummm, probably because their involvement in this is an impeachable offense.
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I mean the libs would be SCREAMING til blood ran from their little eyes if this same thing was being done by a sitting republican president. It's just amazing how they can ignore it so blissfully. I am just stunned every time by them.
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I mean the libs would be SCREAMING til blood ran from their little eyes if this same thing was being done by a sitting republican president. It's just amazing how they can ignore it so blissfully. I am just stunned every time by them.
But just imagine how bad it would be if this WASN'T the most honest and open administration in our history.
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Campaign on it.
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Campaign on it.
Exactly. And once the new President comes into office, unseal and publish those records.
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Campaign on it.
I don't think I have heard any of the GOP candidates even mention Fast and Furious. It would be a subject that resonates with supporters of the 2nd Amendment.
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I mean the libs would be SCREAMING til blood ran from their little eyes if this same thing was being done by a sitting republican president. It's just amazing how they can ignore it so blissfully. I am just stunned every time by them.
Different pres__ent, different rules.
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Different pres__ent, different rules.
I see what you did there :II:
I agree, this is campaign gold for next year's GOP contender.
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I don't think there's any doubt the gloves will come off full force after the bulk of the primaries and certainly after the GOP convention.
If the GOP is smart, that is.
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...If the GOP is smart, that is.
What could possibly lead you to believe that the GOP leadership/RINO faction will give up it's 100% successful, "bend over and grab the ankles" strategy now?
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What could possibly lead you to believe that the GOP leadership/RINO faction will give up it's 100% successful, "bend over and grab the ankles" strategy now?
I'm guessing the GOP leadership/RINO faction has the fix in for Mitt...damn them... they seem to keep knocking off the front runner to make room for him. I'm going to have to hold my nose again this time when I vote.
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What could possibly lead you to believe that the GOP leadership/RINO faction will give up it's 100% successful, "bend over and grab the ankles" strategy now?
Because they've run out of KY?
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What could possibly lead you to believe that the GOP leadership/RINO faction will give up it's 100% successful, "bend over and grab the ankles" strategy now?
RINOs are no different from Democrats.
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I'm guessing the GOP leadership/RINO faction has the fix in for Mitt...damn them... they seem to keep knocking off the front runner to make room for him. I'm going to have to hold my nose again this time when I vote.
Obama's worst nightmare would be if a real conservative defeated him and decided to go after the illegal dealings of this administration. However, it would not surprise me if a giant shredder is used to destroy evidence. Clinton/Burger got away with it, and Bush was too chickenshit to persue the crooks. Obummer will give it a try also.
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I hate to be a Debbie Downer but as it has been pointed out, keep your eyes on Hillary.
Once the Libtard legion and leftist media openly admit that Soetoro is circling the drain she may jump in with an 11th hour independent bid and split the vote just enough to see 0bama snatch a win or win it herself.
This ain't over, folks. The drama hasn't even begun yet. :popcorn:
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Now, just cuz the DOJ has ordered the records sealed, why would that interfere with Congress's hearings into F&F? Wouldn't Issa be able to subpeona those records and have them introduced as evidence, making them subject to FOIA requests?
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I hate to be a Debbie Downer but as it has been pointed out, keep your eyes on Hillary.
Once the Libtard legion and leftist media openly admit that Soetoro is circling the drain she may jump in with an 11th hour independent bid and split the vote just enough to see 0bama snatch a win or win it herself.
This ain't over, folks. The drama hasn't even begun yet. :popcorn:
Never say never.
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This administration is corrupt down to the marrow of the bones. Putting peoples lives at risk in order to undermine the second amendment rights of Americans is pathetic enough, but the cover-up attempts are equally disgusting. They need to take a look at the history of the Nixon administration and understand that often, in politics, the cover-up causes far more problems than the main event. In this case fast and furious is far more grave than the watergate break-in and the reaction to this attempt to cover it up will be accompanied by equally grave reactions.
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I hate to be a Debbie Downer but as it has been pointed out, keep your eyes on Hillary.
Once the Libtard legion and leftist media openly admit that Soetoro is circling the drain she may jump in with an 11th hour independent bid and split the vote just enough to see 0bama snatch a win or win it herself.
This ain't over, folks. The drama hasn't even begun yet. :popcorn:
She'd divide Obama's votes, not those of the Republican challenger.
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Yea, and I'd love for that to happen. But it won't.
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Yea, and I'd love for that to happen. But it won't.
I tend to agree. Women on both sides of the aisle tend to gravitate toward her and while Hillary is a card-carrying member of the Lord Zero administration, she has not been completely sucked in to the Obama camp, at least from the standpoint of appearnces, seems to me. She's on the road all the time and it's hard for her to be worshiping at the Lord Zero altar when she's tiredly trumpeting some State Department thing or another from Bangkok or Tunis.
Hard core leftists will be more inclined to lean toward Hillary because, in their pointy-headed little minds, Lord Zero hasn't been leftist enough -- which explains why Barry has shifted his rhetoric from "Can't we just get along?" back in the summer to something much firmer today. He's playing to his base, because he knows he's in trouble.
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As a truly conservative woman, I find Hillary to be extremely offensive, and I find it difficult to understand why any woman from this side of the political aisle would gravitate toward her. Ugh! Just talking about her makes me hear her shrill voice and thus the temptation to poke sharp pencils in my ears ensues.
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As a truly conservative woman, I find Hillary to be extremely offensive, and I find it difficult to understand why any woman from this side of the political aisle would gravitate toward her. Ugh! Just talking about her makes me hear her shrill voice and thus the temptation to poke sharp pencils in my ears ensues.
I'd suggest you're the exception rather than the rule. :II: When she gets to campaigning, women generally listen. It worked in '08 and I suspect it would work now.
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I'd suggest you're the exception rather than the rule. :II: When she gets to campaigning, women generally listen. It worked in '08 and I suspect it would work now.
BS--BS on all of this crap.
No way could this program have been done without the help of some Republican turn coats knowing. The world of politics is a shady area, in order to keep a seat some on both sides they have to protect each other. It's all in the game you know, like love and war, we find some strange bed mates.
Far as Hillery goes, she is ruthless, watched her after the scandal standing by her man and making a total fool out of herself. All about POWER, she wants it so bad she became a laughing stock to American woman, but then climbed up the leg of the betrayer to gain more power.
Now today she THINKS she has power, BS. Obama keeps her on the move around the world doing his requests, acting as his Dummy and the words out of her mouth are in fact HIS. She has no choice but to spew his words to the world.
It is not just the Dem's that want to seal the records of the the Border patrol, it is the Rep. that also want it sealed.
This cannot be just a one party problem. One cannot say that the government that OK ed the movement was responsible. Many in the government are on both sides of the Party's, to allow this to go on there had to be a collusion between both party's.
Our government is out of whack, both sides and in the middle. Strange that America now becomes more and more like the other country's our ancestors ran from.
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BS--BS on all of this crap.
No way could this program have been done without the help of some Republican turn coats knowing. The world of politics is a shady area, in order to keep a seat some on both sides they have to protect each other. It's all in the game you know, like love and war, we find some strange bed mates.
Far as Hillery goes, she is ruthless, watched her after the scandal standing by her man and making a total fool out of herself. All about POWER, she wants it so bad she became a laughing stock to American woman, but then climbed up the leg of the betrayer to gain more power.
Now today she THINKS she has power, BS. Obama keeps her on the move around the world doing his requests, acting as his Dummy and the words out of her mouth are in fact HIS. She has no choice but to spew his words to the world.
It is not just the Dem's that want to seal the records of the the Border patrol, it is the Rep. that also want it sealed.
This cannot be just a one party problem. One cannot say that the government that OK ed the movement was responsible. Many in the government are on both sides of the Party's, to allow this to go on there had to be a collusion between both party's.
Our government is out of whack, both sides and in the middle. Strange that America now becomes more and more like the other country's our ancestors ran from.
vesta, stop frothing at the mouth. You're drooling on yourself. Regarding Shrillary, SHE DOES HAVE A CHOICE. She can continue to be Obama's mouthpiece as SecState or she can go her own way. She chooses the former. That means that while she cannot be trusted one iota, she's in a good position in that she's still got her name in the MSM, but she doesn't quite have her nose buried up Obama's ass either. She's forever on the run and thus is physically separated from Barry, unlike Jay Carney whose nose is definitely tinged a nice shade of brown. And we shouldn't forget that she can't stand her husband, either, which is another good motivator in staying the hell out of D.C. and Westchester County.
Regarding your "this can't be a one-party problem", you want to put forth some information that indicts Repubs for the Justice Department's sealing of court records? Keep in mind that last Thursday, Holder admitted to Congress that not all of the JD's emails were provided to Congress in their investigation of Fast and Furious and that they would not.
This looks to me like a complete and total Justice Department scandal. Barry can most likely plead plausible denial in that he's too damned disconnected to have known about F&F, but Holder? Not on your life. He's lying out his ass.