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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on November 26, 2011, 09:35:46 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=437x5132
Oh my.
The anti-gun-nut, the "attorney" from Canada who disrupts the firearms forum on Skins's island.
iverglas (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-20-11 06:38 PM
Original message
lies
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
It is not my fault if what a poster posts at this website is a lie.
The lies in question are:
- the Canadian Firearms Registry has cost "billions".
As my post proved, this is a LIE fabricated by an extreme right-wing politician who has admitted fabricating it.
- there has been 1% compliance with the registration requirement
I can't even begin to guess where this nonsense was dredged up from.
(posted by someone else in the same thread)
I did not call the poster a liar, I did not say he lied. I said what he posted was a lie, and IT IS.
Surely one cannot repeat lies told by third parties with impunity, and expect no one to say what they are.
If someone were to post gross, outright, right-wing lies about a Democratic administration's policies at Democratic Underground, would this really be tolerated?
Is posting lying right-wing liars' lying right-wing memes as if they were true acceptable here?
Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-22-11 11:27 AM
Response to Original message
1. You are permitted to call someone's post false.
But when you call it a lie, you are accusing the poster of deliberately engaging in dishonest behavior. In other words, it's a personal attack.
If you want to post that someone's post is a lie cooked-up by someone else, then you should make clear what you are trying to say so that there is no misunderstanding.
iverglas (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-23-11 01:14 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. have you read the post in question?
If you want to post that someone's post is a lie cooked-up by someone else, then you should make clear what you are trying to say so that there is no misunderstanding.
There was no misunderstanding.
Just the automatic response ...
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iverglas
If someone were to post gross, outright, right-wing lies about a Democratic administration's policies at Democratic Underground, would this really be tolerated?
What is called "gross, outright, right-wing lies about a Democratic administration's policies" on Skin's island is usually some truth they don't like to face. And the truth about how liberalism is a failure is never tolerated there, so the primitive does have a point.
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1., how would you establish that ANY stat about compliance rates was a lie? There would necessarily be no data on total ownership upon which such a rate could be based (From my own experience living in NJ when their 'Assault weapons ban' went into effect, I'd say 1% is pretty low but not entirely impossible; only a handful of weapons were actually registered under it, but the following year the large uptick in 'Gun crimes' was entirely accounted for by violations of the ban itself when cops entering houses to serve warrants, perform rescues, intervene in domestics, etc. found unregistered 'Assault weapons;' fortunately I did not have to take any chances on that, as I had the option of leaving all my non-compliant weapons with relatives in another, saner state when I moved there).
2. It's Canada, iverglass, nobody really gives a rat's ass.