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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Revolution on November 21, 2011, 05:12:24 PM
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hyphenate (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-21-11 01:03 PM
Original message
Posting Private Info
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 01:04 PM by hyphenate
Fellow DUers, I have a request to make. I understand the desire will be strong to buck against my request, but in the end, I think that there will be a lot more peace and serenity to do so.
Some people stink. Some people suck. Some people are outright dangerous and evil. But, regardless of all that, people are still people.
I'll start by telling a short story about a recent comment I made to a friend, when a Repug had gotten off scott-free from an action he had taken, and not gotten called on it, in contrast to a Dem who had made a similar action, and was forced to pay the consequences for it. I asked why did WE have to be the ones who paid for a mistake, when in fact, the Repug was able to get away with it. My friend's reply? "We;re supposed to be better than that."
There was a nanosecond of prideful joy on hearing that, no matter how painful the sting was. I knew, in fact, that we, as liberals, have to be above the general field of humankind because we have consciences, we have standards, and we have an abiding desire to make life easier for all concerned.
So today, when I was looking at a few posts here, and there was a strong churning in my stomach when I saw private information published o one of the pepper-spraying cops at the Occupy group. Yes, the man is a sleazeball, yes, the man should be taken down, but it should not be predicated on having people print the man's home address and other such details of his life.
We are supposed to be better than that. We're supposed to be beyond that kind of immaturity. At heart, we might not really feel that way, but if we decide to wallow in the mud with the rest of humanity, we lose the higher ground, and we become just like them.
We can see this kind of thing being done by those on the other side. Constantly. We can see its affect when people like George Tiller are assassinated. We can see people getting attacked, even killed, when private information is made public. Do we have the right to expose others to the kind of treatment we wouldn't want happen to ourselves? No matter WHO that person is, exposing them in such a manner goes against everything we're supposed to stand for.
Posting information about someone's job, OTOH, isn't the same. If someone has been shown to have an attitude that clashes with his or her job, post their WORK information. If their behavior implies that they suck at their job, go right ahead and post their manager's or their boss's business number. Give out their business address. That's okay. That's reporting their screw-ups to their higher-ups.
But to expose their home address, or their home telephone number, might be exposing their children, their wives, even their parents to some danger down the road. And I know for me, I could never live with myself if I knew I had been instrumental in having an innocent harmed because I felt someone else had ****ed up.
These people, right or wrong, should not have to worry about their family members being hurt. Yes, showing their bosses that the person doesn't deserve to keep their jobs is one thing. Making them fear for their lives, and the lives of those around them is another. Unless your name is Fred Phelps and you drag your entire family around with you to protest, you don't bring your family into any situation that carries a potentially dangerous risk.
We are supposed to be better than those on the other side. But we can't be better if we are just as eager to punish them in their private lives as those on the other side. If we keep it up, we won't have anyone to protest if WE'RE the ones who are getting threats to our families from someone publishing our home addresses or phone numbers.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2356194
No, you guys are not really above it. You do not have the high ground, high morals, any kind of decent standards or any integrity what so ever. You are liars, beggars, cheats, and lazy thieves. Get over yourselves. :rotf:
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No, you guys are not really above it. You do not have the high ground, high morals, any kind of decent standards or any integrity what so ever.
<<as TxRadioGuy, NHSparky, franksolich, and probably several others, already know.
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Oh that's common knowlege around here, sir. I just figured I'd jot it down again for posterity.
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And they wonder why they are on FBI watchlists
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Oh that's common knowlege around here, sir. I just figured I'd jot it down again for posterity.
Yeah, that always pissed me off, something big time.
When Doug's stupid ex-wife started the Scamdal, we on the other side assumed the scammers would be sportsmanlike, no hitting-below-the belt dirty stuff.
That was a most disastrous assumption, that they'd play fair.
However, proponents of open and honest fund-raising to the end respected boundaries, played fair, and won.
And years later, I myself still respect boundaries when it comes to the primitives, limiting myself to only information the primitives themselves have posted about themselves in campfires on Skins's island.
The primitives however, being primitives, are not as principled as franksolich (and other decent and civilized people).
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See, Frank, that's why I say kill them all now. That way we won't have to put up with their bullshit later.
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See, Frank, that's why I say kill them all now. That way we won't have to put up with their bullshit later.
You know, this hitting-below-the-belt is based upon the Democrat, liberal, and primitive perception that one has to cheat, to win. It's in their bloodstreams, their genes, a natural part of them.
One may "win," but one never really wins.
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^ Funny you say that, check the post I make in the politics section in a minute.
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Point being, I learned from history. I'm never going to change my mind, but you can bet I'm gonna cover my ass.
DUmmies, Paulbots, other assorted ****-knuckles, I say to all of you...bring it on, bitches. Betcha can't take what you dish out.
Matter of fact, I KNOW you can't take it.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-21-11 05:35 PM
Response to Original message
30. Quite the Contrary, Sir: These Uniformed Criminals Need To Fear for their Families And Themselves
Edited on Mon Nov-21-11 05:46 PM by The Magistrate
Every officer faced with the decision to inflict torturous pain on a peaceful citizen protester should have to wonder if inflicting that pain might mean his wife is fired from a job, his child bullied at school, his house set on fire, his credit ruined, whatever the brute whim of a universe full of angry and none too tightly wrapped persons might happen to direct his way.
:bird:
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If I were that cop and innocent members of my family ended up getting hurt, whether I was in the right or wrong, I'd be looking for some payback.
DUmmies believe the cop's reaction would be to just say, "Oh my, they hurt my family. Mea culpa. I promise not to do that again." Then again, they all hate their families so they can't conceive of it going any other way.
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No, they won't do it--because even as stupid as they are, as soon as anything bad happens, they know the first knock at the door will be just that--someone looking for some payback.
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That Magistrate asshole is getting more and more violent. Practically every post he makes screams for blood.
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Where was this guy when Joe the Plumber was getting a left-wing anal probe for daring to ask The One a question.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-21-11 05:35 PM
Response to Original message
30. Quite the Contrary, Sir: These Uniformed Criminals Need To Fear for their Families And Themselves
Every officer faced with the decision to inflict torturous pain on a peaceful citizen protester should have to wonder if inflicting that pain might mean his wife is fired from a job, his child bullied at school, his house set on fire, his credit ruined, whatever the brute whim of a universe full of angry and none too tightly wrapped persons might happen to direct his way.
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What a pant load.
The projectionist union is going to need lots of back dues in that thread.
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God, they are without souls.
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God, they are without souls.
Actuaqlly, they do have souls--Souls Of The Damned . . .
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Actuaqlly, they do have souls--Souls Of The Damned . . .
what they see when they look in the mirror
(http://www.halloween-mask.com/ferscpestud/08/zombie_vampire_03.jpg)
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If the left has higher standards, then why are those on the right forced to resign from office when they do something wrong, or are shunned by party leaders, yet those on the left don't care and in some instances embraced by those on the left?
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what they see when they look in the mirror
(http://www.halloween-mask.com/ferscpestud/08/zombie_vampire_03.jpg)
Looks like another guy got his nose job from Michael Jackson's doctor.
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Looks like another guy got his nose job from Michael Jackson's doctor.
Carville on a good day.
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It makes you wonder sometimes if these DUmmies realize the extent to which our technology has reached when it comes to gathering intellect.
That slime sucking who're dog The Magestrait can only begin to understand how easy it is to do things to him that he wishes to do to the cops. You don't need a badge or a warrent to get the goods on some people.