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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on November 18, 2011, 04:07:34 PM
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-17-11 09:52 PM
Original message
Do you believe OWS will eventually morph into a true 3rd party?
So much of OWS is based on fighting corruption in the ruling class --- yet to effect real change at a legislative level, it's gonna take votes.
Do you think OWS is the birth of a 3rd party (not named yet)?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2334582#2334813
ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-17-11 11:18 PM
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19. The one question never answered is that if OWS ignores the voting booth how will change ever occur
Lots of discussion at the encampment I participate at over that. Some seem to think it will magically occur without revolution or voting. That somehow the laws will change because they should.
ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-18-11 12:07 AM
Response to Reply #22
27. What major changes have ever been accomplished in the US
without changes brought by elections at some point.
PETRUS (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-17-11 10:46 PM
Response to Reply #2
17. Correct.
Professor Domhoff, who believes the US is class dominated and that money calls the shots in both parties, also believes that much the Democratic party's base is reasonably progressive and that activists best hope is to work within that party by forming grass-roots "egalitarian clubs" and starting at the local level.
I'm embarrassed to say I've never heard of Professor DUmkopf, and am too lazy to use the google.
But I'm sure he's a leading authority in DUmpmonkey circles.
knowbody0 (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-17-11 10:00 PM
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7. first cities will go bankrupt
paying overtime salaries to their police, courts, jails etc. everyone gets a court appointed attorney, dontcha know. eventually, the wall street guys will have to hire private protection and all hell will break lose.
That's kind of cool. The only places allowing the hippie hordes to exist are blue hellholes. If the hippies can make the hellholes even worse, maybe they will stop being blue.
Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-17-11 10:16 PM
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13. A nation-wide General Assembly would utterly replace current politics.
And it would be such a relief...
Can you imagine? One whackjob shouting three words, then everyone in the country repeating them?
hack89 (1000+ posts) Fri Nov-18-11 03:43 PM
Response to Reply #13
34. So when the Tea Baggers show up at the GA - what then?
there are wide swaths of America where OWS has no support whatsoever.
Those are the same wide swaths where the jug-eared Kenyan has no support whatsoever.
doc03 (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-17-11 10:53 PM
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18. No, I think the OWS movement is on life support.
quiller4 (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-17-11 11:44 PM
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23. No. I think that it may morph into a permanent organization
but I see something more like a cross between Move On and ACORN
Yep, another moonbat organization set up to make a few other moonbats rich.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2334582#2334813
I'm embarrassed to say I've never heard of Professor DUmkopf, and am too lazy to use the google.
But I'm sure he's a leading authority in DUmpmonkey circles.
That's kind of cool. The only places allowing the hippie hordes to exist are blue hellholes. If the hippies can make the hellholes even worse, maybe they will stop being blue.
Can you imagine? One whackjob shouting three words, then everyone in the country repeating them?
Those are the same wide swaths where the jug-eared Kenyan has no support whatsoever.
Yep, another moonbat organization set up to make a few other moonbats rich.
Do these people even read what they write? Christ on a crutch! A third party from moonbat central? We can only hope! As I see it, the DemoncRats are likely to be suckin' hind tit for quite some time already! A third party will just hasten their demise! I'm all for it!!!
quiller4 (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-17-11 11:44 PM
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23. No. I think that it may morph into a permanent organization
but I see something more like a cross between Move On and ACORN
Oh, just what we need! Another gubmint subsidized charity for trailer trash! Heaven help us!
It's just amazing to me how these pukes think! As far as I can tell, about 30% of the voting public thinks this is a good idea! WTF has happened to America??????
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Do these people even read what they write?
They are the ones they have been waiting for.
Ergo everything they want is perfect and Holy.
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This afternoon, Vince Coakley (black conservative radio host on WBT Radio) was playing some recordings of Van Jones speeches the black communist made. Van Jones says they should/will use the green energy BS and OWS crap to co-opt the democrat party and take control of government. The OWSiers will be their Tea Party. They will mask their ultimate maximum goals by only stating the minimum goals. Van Jones made some comparisons to the civil rights movement. He spoke of Rosa Parks taking a seat on the front of the bus, the college students taking a seat at the lunch counter as being their minimum goals while their unspoken maximum goals were full civil rights, integration of schools, legalization of mixed marriages, etc., etc.. Van Jones stated that had their maximum goals been stated at the time that even their minimum goals would not have been reach.....it's the usual liberal/communist approach..."We'll take what we can get now and come back for more later."
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This afternoon, Vince Coakley (black conservative radio host on WBT Radio) was playing some recordings of Van Jones speeches the black communist made. Van Jones says they should/will use the green energy BS and OWS crap to co-opt the democrat party and take control of government. The OWSiers will be their Tea Party. They will mask their ultimate maximum goals by only stating the minimum goals. Van Jones made some comparisons to the civil rights movement. He spoke of Rosa Parks taking a seat on the front of the bus, the college students taking a seat at the lunch counter as being their minimum goals while their unspoken maximum goals were full civil rights, integration of schools, legalization of mixed marriages, etc., etc.. Van Jones stated that had their maximum goals been stated at the time that even their minimum goals would not have been reach.....it's the usual liberal/communist approach..."We'll take what we can get now and come back for more later."
No shit Sherlock! The stinkin' demoncRats have been slowly puttin' our society into the shitter for damn near a hundred years! Ever since Wilson and his stinkin' League of Nations bullshit! Progressive indeed!
Progressively communist!
Take a look at higher education! It has now trickled down to kindergarten! Our children, especially in blue cities, are bein' indoctrinated into socialism! One only has to look at the OWLs in order to see the proof!
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-17-11 10:16 PM
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13. A nation-wide General Assembly would utterly replace current politics.
And it would be such a relief...
Can you imagine? One whackjob shouting three words, then everyone in the country repeating them?
Teah, But who will count the up-, and down-, twinkles.
And what about a paper twinkle trail?
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I'm just not sure why they want to form a third party.
We already have one dedicated to losers and deadbeats.
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The OWSie party.
This is the group who debated for over 3 hours in one general assembly about spending money to buy coffee and tea. They couldn't get a consensus since it spawned a debate about fair trade coffee.
This is the group that decided to start a 24/7 outside protest in a northeast city in September and forgot that warm clothes, food a place to sleep may be a good idea. I almost forgot that whole call of nature thing too.
This is the group that knows they want change but feels it's a good thing to not commit to what should be changed or how to go about the change.
This is the group that at 10PM, after several hours of snow, they decide to put out an urgent call that they need warmer sleeping bags. They can't spend any of the $500,000 in the bank to buy some because that would require a general assembly to debate the purchase of the sleeping bags.
Yep I'll be sure to vote for them.
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-17-11 10:16 PM
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13. A nation-wide General Assembly would utterly replace current politics.
And it would be such a relief...
You would not like mob rule in the long run but are too stupid to understand that.
I beg you though to please come back and show you have some sack.
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Yeah we really need to follow OWS. Those people make coma patients look animated.
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Go for it, DUmmies! I think the OWieS Party has merit and will be hugely successful with 50% of the population!
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Do you think OWS is the birth of a 3rd party (not named yet)?
I can see the headline now:
Occupy Wall Street Fields Turd Party Candidate
(hat tip to iowahawk)
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They can't spend any of the $500,000 in the bank to buy some because that would require a general assembly to debate the purchase of the sleeping bags.
It's a sure bet that somewhere within that sea of deadbeats there are a few sharpsters like Skimmer, planning, scheming, angling to expropriate all that cash.
As Jesus said, "A fool and his money are soon parted." I think I read that at the DUmp.
When it happens, the squealing, whining outrage will be hilarious.
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I used the google to check Prof Dumkoff and the fourth one down must be him.
Professor Bill Domhoff » Leftwing Nutjob
leftwingnutjob.net/tag/professor-bill-domhoff/
Jul 22, 2011 – Tagged with: federal income tax rates, federal taxes, income distribution, Inequality, paying their fair share, Professor Bill Domhoff, taxes and ...
https://www.google.com/search?gcx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Professor+Domhoff
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Up twinkles for a
turd third party.
Do it, DUmpmonkeys.