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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on November 17, 2011, 11:02:51 AM
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This got dumped into the 9/11 dungeon.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-16-11 12:45 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x324644
On OWS evictions and FEDERAL coordination
No, it is not shocking, nor is it surprising. For the record it has zero to do with who is in the White House. OWS is perceived as a challenge to those in power. It is a demand that WE THE PEOPLE take charge of how the country is run, and who it benefits. In spite of all the flowery language in our history and founding documents this has mostly never been the case. Oh there are exceptions, and they took a lot shoe leather, and also people who died.
If this was NOT HAPPENING, now that would be surprising. This is about power, and how power reacts to a direct challenge to it. This is the body deploying the white cells. Which by the way is also telling on HOW MUCH the TEA PARTY was not a grass roots movement (it was for about a week) and how it was advancing the goals of a power elite. That is why they could walk around totting AR-15, and open carry guns. That is precisely why.
OWS is a challenge, a very direct challenge. Is it horrible that is happening under a Democrat in the WH? For partisans it is. Will hard core partisans defend these actions? Of course my horse. They are also threatened by this challenge and are deeply invested in the status quo. So the hippie in the streets, who smoke pot and do nothing all day, are nothing they will tolerate. Why? Deeply they undersand they are not hippies. It is one of those things you know in your gut, even if your mind has not registered this yet.
Suffice it to say... POWER... not party specific, POWER, needs to destroy this direct attack. Why the coordination. And it is really independent of who is in the white house. If we had a President that came out and said ENOUGH (See Eisenhower, and that one I suspect it was his life experience including being involved as chief of staff to McCarthur during the Bonus army mess)... or FDR... or even Kennedy... that requires something that is currently lacking in DC.
LEADERSHIP...
We have many euphemisms for it. But truth be told we have the very early cracks in that edifice when the legal aide to Mayor Quan very publicly resigned. As well as the two cops who turned their badges back in Denver. I am not a fly in anybody's wall, but as we move forward discussions will be had about what to do about OWS, from co-option to destroying it. Power is reacting in expected ways... and to be brutally honest, power does not understand this new enemy, yes insurgency, in it's mist.
But now we are in that interesting dynamic...
I will go on in a little while in another OP in the internal dynamic at OWS I have observed. One that is also not a seed of destruction, but a seed of this growing in so many directions.
Yeah, Nadin stumbles into the truth- Leadership is lacking in Washington DC, at 1600 Penn.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-16-11 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #49
54. Realize that DHS agents have been witnessed by
the likes of Michael Moore and Naomi Klein... hardly conspiracy nuts.
And this was far more of a META this is how things are... if they were not, I'd be pleasantly surprised.
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Who was
McCarthur
Anybody know?
Also, what's this Of course my horse.
I think I'm going to steal that.
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-16-11 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #49
54. Realize that DHS agents have been witnessed by
the likes of Michael Moore and Naomi Klein... hardly conspiracy nuts.
And this was far more of a META this is how things are... if they were not, I'd be pleasantly surprised.
(http://images.wikia.com/princessbride/images/7/70/Inigo_Montoya.png)
"I don't think that word means what you think it means."
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Who was
McCarthur
Anybody know?
Inventor of the car and he later founded the MAC truck company.
Now Frank, we all know who she means...you know...the fellow in the pickle green suit that disobeyed orders from the president so as to bring shame on him and help bring FDR and the democrats to power.
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-16-11 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #49
54. Realize that DHS agents have been witnessed by
the likes of Michael Moore and Naomi Klein... hardly conspiracy nuts.
Did this moron really just say this?
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Gee, according to Nadin's rambling rant, looks like the OWeS in Oakland and Denver were able to make three new jobs available.
Wonder if those two cops in Denver feel kinda stupid about now.
Forget about Mayor Quan's aide. She was stupid, and she knew it.
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1. The super brains in the 0bama regime thought the OWSers would be a positive for their reelection.
2. The OWSers, even with the help of the MSM, show themselves to be creepy, violent, and lawless with no concept.
3. The approval in polls for the OWS has plummeted.
4. The super brains in the 0bama regime now think the OWSers are a negative for their reelection.
5. The super brains in the 0bama regime have the OWSers kicked out of their 0bamavilles to keep their cute antics away from normal and decent people.
Again, we see the stunning effect of SMART Power!!!!1111!!!eleventy
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This little exchange is too good to pass up.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-16-11 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. The latter will probably come forth after the mess
with Contrielpro II hearings.
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-16-11 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #12
20. Google gives me nothing for Contrielpro
Could you mean COINTELPRO? Maybe Contrielpro is not a US thing. Do you have any real knowledge of the subject?
The Hanger lit a fire.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-16-11 02:04 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. Actually I know about it
you are taking your dig on a spelling error on a blog. I see.
Facts don't matter, just spelling. Look in the mirror, you are one of those I refer to as those invested in the system
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Whereupon, he unintentionally pulls a cute one himself :lmao:
Hangingon (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-16-11 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #27
32. The care shown in writing some thing for publication
shows the author has researched the issue nad checked the facts. Yes, spelling is important. Facts matter. What you "report" is speculation. I am invested in the American Constitutional system. Every American should be. There are things wrong in America today. The Constitution provides a way to correct these wrongs. Camping in the park won;t get it done.
Nads is not happy with this guy. :rotf:
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(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x56/Aieshava/metamucil.jpg)
And this was far more of a META
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I think I'm going to steal that.
Okie dickie.
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Hangingon (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-16-11 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #27
32. The care shown in writing some thing for publication shows the author has researched the issue nad checked the facts.
I believe 'Nad checking' them facts would involve using the google.
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I believe 'Nad checking' them facts would involve using the google.
After you, sir.
Step right up. :lmao: