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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dandi on November 13, 2011, 10:45:47 PM
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Great Geezly Crow, what a bunch of cheap, miserly, whiny, entitlement-minded losers.
sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 09:48 PM
Original message
How many here can afford an extra 42 bucks a year?
Edited on Sun Nov-13-11 09:55 PM by sarcasmo
What a terrible time to make a change to one of the greatest information resources on the internet. How many people here are out of work? How many people here can afford another 45 dollars a month. Why gouge the people who rely on this site for news, information and sometimes entertainment. I just needed to get my two cents in, go ahead and flame away.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2301207
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 09:49 PM
Response to Original message
1. Not me. The whole thing sucks. I am the 99%.
Edited on Sun Nov-13-11 09:51 PM by uppityperson
ps $42-60/yr, not month
You're 99% moron, and the other 1% is hanging by a thread.
bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 09:49 PM
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2. Skinner's words
Edited on Sun Nov-13-11 09:50 PM by bigwillq
And as always, those who choose not to purchase a star will still be able to post and participate free of charge.
I don't like the idea that I can't do my minimum, get a star and not see the ads, but we will still be able to post, if we choose to, for free.
"Do my minimum". I'll bet you "do your minimum" in everything in life. That's why you're all screwed.
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 09:50 PM
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7. 42/year, or 3.50/mo. Or if you are POOR $60/yr or $5/mo.
Oh FFS, take a couple of hours off from DU, rake your neighbor's yard, and you'll have 42 bucks plus probably enough for a couple of bags of Cheetos.
sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 09:52 PM
Response to Reply #7
16. Running this just like a bank, screwing the poor.
:lmao:
woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #7
34. Yes, and to add insult to injury,
this change now comes because DU is doing so well. :sarcasm:
TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 10:47 PM
Response to Reply #34
91. Indeed
That is what really got me. Essentially the presentation was that because DU is doing so well instead of a quarterly fund drive we're going to charge a piss-load more and make it nearly impossible for members to donate on behalf of those that are financially unable.
Epic fail, and I really resent the presentation that comes off as us being too stupid to figure out the math that adds up to an enormous increase in payment.
You are stupid.
AngkorWot (739 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 09:51 PM
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15. I'm not sure what's funnier.
The math error. The suggestion that it's some big expense. The idea of paying money for a few minor features on a website in 2011. Or calling this place a great source of information.
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 09:52 PM
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18. AH. Why are you here?
AngkorWot (739 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 09:53 PM
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21. Well it's sure not for information.
I'm a democrat and I have a sense of humor.
BWAHAHAH
Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 10:43 PM
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88. You may be a democrat w/a sense of humor, but where's the empathy for the poor among us?
Oh the poor! The poor! With your computer and broadband connection and plenty of time on your hands to use it! Won't someone please think of the poor!
MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 10:02 PM
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50. The less you can afford, the more you have to pay. It's the way of the world.
When I look at my expenses, and the people I'm caring for, I have to ask myself, who needs it more? I am a Family First type. The brother with the stroke beats amusement on the internet, every time.
It's fine, though--I can do without. It is what it is. Complaining might be good for the soul, but I don't think it's going to change the site owner's business model. They've made up their minds, I think.
Alas, alack!
$kimmer is a good capitalist. He's not going to give you idiots something for free that he knows you'll pay for. Besides, what part of YOU CAN STILL READ AND POST FOR FREE don't you understand?
boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #32
41. words from Skinner "On DU3 you will still be able to buy a star which will remove all of the ads
from the site and provide you with access to special functions and features".
Why make it so difficult to have all member of DU on an equal footing.
This new subscription model is going to make it less likely for people to be able to donate stars to others.
This is where your dreams of Communism run into the brick wall of what we like to call, "real life".
femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 09:58 PM
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40. I can probably afford it, but not sure if i want to.
I don't see any reason for the change. Why "fix" it since it ain't broke? I may be a progressive, but I am anti-"progress" in this case!
bah humbug
"Whose site?" "OUR site!" :rofl:
sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #40
42. GREED!
sharp_stick (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #42
54. It's always greed when it's someone else
I don't think anyone is going to be holding you upside down to shake the change out so the CAPS may be a bit of an overkill.
femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #42
56. Maybe, I'm not sure about that... but it offends my sense of justice that there are many who
simply cannot afford it.
How many posts have there been about members who are unemployed and are barely making it? I think this new membership fee is discriminatory. OK, OK, I know, you don't have to pay anything to participate .... but we are far more egalitarian under the current structure. I'm adopting a "wait-and-see" attitude about it right now.
Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Nov-13-11 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #58
67. Me, too. I happily contribute $10/mo and I'm not rolling in the dough.
I guess some here feel that DU should be totally free and that Skinner should be happy pay the OH costs just to listen to all of us complain without expecting people to pay for the privilege.
Because everything else in life is free, why not DU? /sarcasm
You just described your fellow DUmmies to a "T".
stevenleser (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 09:59 PM
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45. Skinner made it clear the site is still free to access and post. I dont see the issue...
Which one of us is missing something? (Hint: It isnt me)
Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #69
73. It has nothing to do with reading comprehension.
The new changes will be good only for the people that can afford $45/60 per year.
For the rest of us we can all 'eat cake' while having to look at all the ADS all over our DU pages.
There are some of us that have been able to buy a star at a reasonable price in order to not see the ads and to have full membership privileges, the reason folks are upset is because now the price is going WAY UP.
Oh you poor dear. You'll actually have your eyes skim across an AD once in a while. How will your tender little psyche ever survive such an affront? :whatever:
SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 10:40 PM
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85. Yuppifying DU
I don't blame Skinner for charging money; it's his site. And they just had a new baby, didn't they?
However . . . the $42/year charge will inevitably create classes within DU. Betcha the folks with stars are going to start denouncing freeloaders . . . . just sayin'.
And on it goes...
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts)
un Nov-13-11 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #32
41. Why make it so difficult to have all member of DU on an equal footing.
You're right. All members of DU should be required to submit a copy of their previous-year tax return to $kinner. They will be charged membership fees accordingly.
That is how you want things run, right?
Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-13-11 10:21 PM
Response to Reply #69
73. For the rest of us we can all 'eat cake' while having to look at all the ADS all over our DU pages.
*theirs*
heh.
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It's going to be the Lord of the Flies in realtime, I can't wait. :cheersmate:
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It's going to be the Lord of the Flies in realtime, I can't wait. :cheersmate:
This. Will. Be. Awesome.
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It's going to be the Lord of the Flies in realtime, I can't wait. :cheersmate:
I get the feeling that some of the best theatre will be in venues that those of us without moles will not be able to access.
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What's the Over/Under that TS's will happen soon so that Der $kimmer just doesn't have to deal with some of these whiney little bitches anymore?
Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-13-11 10:43 PM
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88. You may be a democrat w/a sense of humor, but where's the empathy for the poor among us?
Bobbo? Is...is that you in reincarnated form?
Seriously though, where the hell did she go?
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts)
un Nov-13-11 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #32
41. Why make it so difficult to have all member of DU on an equal footing.
Some good old-fashioned redistribution is what is needed here. Charge those who can afford to pay a posting "tax" and give it to those who cannot pay. You are residing in Obama's nation, after all. Get with the program.
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Some good old-fashioned redistribution is what is needed here. Charge those who can afford to pay a posting "tax" and give it to those who cannot pay. You are residing in Obama's nation, after all. Get with the program.
No, son! You don't understand.
That only applies to "other people". Never to the "progressive/regressive/liberal/commie/socialist" geniuses that propose/demand/require it be done. They are exempt.
Damn Dumbasses bitching about $42 bucks a year. :hammer:
Hell, I pay $42 bucks for a tank of gas, and I have to do that 3 times a week, mostly thanks to DUmbasses and the "progressive leaders" they elect, expecting more goodies in exchange for their votes.
IF the DUmbasses and their kin in the OWS bowel movements want to stamp out "greed" in America, they have to look no farther than their bathroom mirrors. :argh:
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Mon Nov-14-11 02:50 AM
Response to Reply #4
12. Some of the best entertainment on the intertubes... worth it! n/t
Just come over here cherokeeprogressive - you get most of the dross filtered out, plus free commentary...
But overall, can't particularly disagree with him...except he probably means it in a different way.
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Just come over here cherokeeprogressive - you get most of the dross filtered out, plus free commentary...
But overall, can't particularly disagree with him...except he probably means it in a different way.
Unless it's a mole. But, you're right. We offer the kind service of weeding out all the "K&R's", "+1,000,000", "lol", and "You Rawk" signs, and present only quality entertainment. One can always rely on a conservative to do a top notch job.
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MADem
When I look at my expenses, and the people I'm caring for, I have to ask myself, who needs it more? I am a Family First type. The brother with the stroke beats amusement on the internet, every time.
When DU3 starts up, see if the MADem primitive is posting. My guess is they are and the brother is SOL.
Melinda
You may be a democrat w/a sense of humor, but where's the empathy for the poor among us?
Wow, can you get anymore obvious. You just want Skin's to lower the fee on behalf of the poor so you can pay less. It has nothing to do with what they can afford and everything to do with you wanting to pay less.
Besides, if you really cared about the poor you wouldn't be a Dem seeing as they purposely keep the poor where they are in order to garner their votes.
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Wow, can you get anymore obvious. You just want Skin's to lower the fee on behalf of the poor so you can pay less.
Skimmer should adopt the pie shop model, waiving the fee for government employees and unionized teachers.
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I know! This strategy raked in millions for Grasswire, who could then donate all proceeds to amateur musicians, to noodle around on their guitars on open mic night. Genius!
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So's my sister. That's what happens when you **** up DUmmy.
Don't want to go jail? Don't **** up.
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No, son! You don't understand.
:rotf: Diesel Driver, you are the first person to ever call me son. Thanks for the chuckle.
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They should do the full bore democrat pricing:
Annual Charge:
White male DU moron, non-atheist: $50
Normal white male DU moron: $42
Normal white female DU moron: $38
Black male DU moron: $15
Black female DU moron: $10
If you make less than $10,000 a year, add $5 per year to the rates above (sort of like union dues).
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Skimmer should adopt the pie shop model, waiving the fee for government employees and unionized teachers.
Good one.
My attitude's well known here; the more my fellow alum Skins can milk from the primitives, the better.
The primitives are a pain in the ass to deal with, and Skins needs something for it.
And besides, better the primitives' money go into my fellow alum's pocket, than into the grasping hands of the neighborhood dope dealer.
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Oh this is too funny! :rotf:
Btw, just what do they get for that $42 besides no ads? For that kind of money I better be getting free music or some really good on line porn.
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Oh this is too funny! :rotf:
Btw, just what do they get for that $42 besides no ads? For that kind of money I better be getting free music or some really good on line porn.
I dunno why the advertisements are such a nuisance to the primitives.
I can see Skins's island with, and without, advertisements.
It doesn't make a whole lot of difference, at least to me, which one I'm seeing.
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:rotf: Diesel Driver, you are the first person to ever call me son. Thanks for the chuckle.
Channeling Foghorn Leghorn... :lmao:
Guess I should have checked your bio first, huh... :lmao: :rotf: :lmao:
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Umm, I'm confused, does DU want $42 from everyone? I thought Skinner said they don't need donations anymore?
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I am amused by the fact that he wants $42 from each moonbat.
Looks like he and Will Pitt like Douglas Adams. :-)
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Good one.
My attitude's well known here; the more my fellow alum Skins can milk from the primitives, the better.
The primitives are a pain in the ass to deal with, and Skins needs something for it.
And besides, better the primitives' money go into my fellow alum's pocket, than into the grasping hands of the neighborhood dope dealer.
Who says, sir? The less time they spend on this planet, the better for the planet as a whole.
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I am amused by the fact that he wants $42 from each moonbat.
Looks like he and Will Pitt like Douglas Adams. :-)
Hmm, that's actually racist asking for $42, Clinton was the 42nd President, Obama is the 44th, so if they're asking for $42 they're basically saying Obama sucks and they prefer the 1st Black President over the 1st real 1/2 Black President. :panic:
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I am amused by the fact that he wants $42 from each moonbat.
Looks like he and Will Pitt like Douglas Adams. :-)
My dear Freeper, that id deserves a ^5.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Answer_to_Life.png)
Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything :lmao:
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My dear Freeper, that id deserves a ^5.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Answer_to_Life.png)
Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything :lmao:
Now if we only knew the question. :-)
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Channeling Foghorn Leghorn... :lmao:
Guess I should have checked your bio first, huh... :lmao: :rotf: :lmao:
I like, I say, I like Foghorn Leghorn. :rotf:
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Good one.
My attitude's well known here; the more my fellow alum Skins can milk from the primitives, the better.
The primitives are a pain in the ass to deal with, and Skins needs something for it.
And besides, better the primitives' money go into my fellow alum's pocket, than into the grasping hands of the neighborhood dope dealer.
Coach, wouldn't it make it easier to unload DU with a solid list of paying clients versus a list of sometimes donors? Not that Mr. Allen, et al would want to do something like. Considering all those mouths he has to feed and college accounts to fund, it might be tempting to monetize this operation and move on.
BTW do you have any idea what the status of DU is? LLC, Non-Profit, sinking hole??
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Coach, wouldn't it make it easier to unload DU with a solid list of paying clients versus a list of sometimes donors? Not that Mr. Allen, et al would want to do something like. Considering all those mouths he has to feed and college accounts to fund, it might be tempting to monetize this operation and move on.
BTW do you have any idea what the status of DU is? LLC, Non-Profit, sinking hole??
I don't think there is any question about the DUmp being operated purely as a cash cow for Skimmer, and Skimmer alone.
His two paid flunkies, the dense Lord Marblehead, and the enigmatic and elusive, but harebrained Elad, must be a more than a little nervous at the prospects of the DUmp being self-administering. The handwriting is on the wall that at least one of them will soon become excess overhead.
Should there be a sale, every dime will go into the Skimmer account.
If I were one of Skimmer's nitwit flunkies, I'd be trying desperately to find othere employment. In the Oconomy they champion, that may be a challenge.
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I don't think there is any question about the DUmp being operated purely as a cash cow for Skimmer, and Skimmer alone.
His two paid flunkies, the dense Lord Marblehead, and the enigmatic and elusive, but harebrained Elad, must be a more than a little nervous at the prospects of the DUmp being self-administering. The handwriting is on the wall that at least one of them will soon become excess overhead.
Should there be a sale, every dime will go into the Skimmer account.
If I were one of Skimmer's nitwit flunkies, I'd be trying desperately to find othere employment. In the Oconomy they champion, that may be a challenge.
Of course, the higher paid of the two will most likely be furloughed. Assuming that the target will be Lord Marblehead, he'd better be checking his green card be up to date.