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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on November 12, 2011, 08:24:46 PM
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I have no set opinion about the matter, as apparently does neither Mr. Wiggum, regarding a possible new rule for the Top DUmmies awards, which are given every December to the primitives who most impressed us during the year.
However, the issue came up the past couple of years, where there were comments that some primitives selected had been selected so many times before, and were old and stale.
But then on the other hand, some repeating primitives deserved to be thusly honored more than once.
The question seems to be: new blood (primitives) or awards based upon performance, in which case some of the "stale old" primitives truly warrant consideration.
As a middle-ground between the two, I've been thinking about a "no repeat" rule for the Top DUmmie--the Top DUmmie only, not including DUmmies in second through twentieth place--that once a primitive has been the Number One DUmmie of any year, the primitive can't be number one any more. Second through twentieth, yes, but not number one.
It's a messy situation.
The rules for 2011 will not be final until the Official Nominating Thread is posted Thanksgiving Eve, and so there's still time to iron something out. New blood, which excludes primitives who formerly won, or awards based upon performance, which might or might not include "old stale" primitives?
As mentioned, I have no set opinion about the matter, and in the manner of British cabinet meetings of the 1800s, I'm willing to muddle through with "consensus."
<<always muddling through, but somehow always gets through.
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I vote yes.
It seems that the crop of exceptional primitives has diminished over the years, and in order to uphold our high standards, we need to let past top primitives be considered again for DOTY.
In the real world, the same person/team can win championships more than once. (Jimmie Johnson/Green Bay Packers.)
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I voted "YES".
If the Dummie has talent, it will rise to the top.
Just like a rotten egg in a glass of water. To deprive a worthyless DUmmie of a repeat, or even a three-peat in favor of an also ran, slacker of a DUmmie will just cheapen the event.
All of us, and I'm quite sure alot of them, sit on the edge of our seats, waiting with bated breath, for the announcements of the top ten DUmmies.
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I voted "YES".
If the Dummie has talent, it will rise to the top.
Just like a rotten egg in a glass of water. To deprive a worthyless DUmmie of a repeat, or even a three-peat in favor of an also ran, slacker of a DUmmie will just cheapen the event.
All of us, and I'm quite sure alot of them, sit on the edge of our seats, waiting with bated breath, for the announcements of the top ten DUmmies.
Umm, I think I meant to vote NO. Err, whatever.
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I vote yes.
It seems that the crop of exceptional primitives has diminished over the years, and in order to uphold our high standards, we need to let past top primitives be considered again for DOTY.
In the real world, the same person/team can win championships more than once. (Jimmie Johnson/Green Bay Packers.)
I would be in favor of limiting Dummies from winning back to back DOTY. :-)
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I voted yes, I don't believe in term limits.
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Absolutely they should.
The criteria that are used to determine the winner should be reset every year so that all the primitives start with a clean slate , so to speak.
This might also allow otherwise unknown lesser-primatives to get in the running so we get a few new names in the list.
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Term limits defeat the will of the electorate. If he were alive, and not subject to term limits, I'd still be voting for President Reagan.
I would vote for G-Dub again in 2012 if he were eligible and wanted to run.
The DUmmy of the Year competition should likewise be a meritocracy, or, in its unique case, a moronocracy.
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I voted "yes" because I believe in rewarding merit. If the DUmmies are corrupting the process in any way then they should be fined or sanctioned in some way.
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I would be in favor of limiting Dummies from winning back to back DOTY. :-)
TomInTib won back-to-back, number one top DUmmie, 2007 and 2008, and it is possible that he merited the back-to-back. I dunno; that's up for members here to judge.
Mr. Wiggum just counts the votes, and I just churn out the awards; we're voluntary "servants" of the people who make this annual contest the success it is.
This is the list of all top primitives ever since the contest was started:
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,66225.0.html
It's up to the members to determine if some primitives repeat too often; I have no opinion.
I recall one time when the "sniffa" primitive (now mausoleumed along with his squeeze the "BiCentennialBaby" primitive) openly complained on Skins's island that there were some primitives--he used the Bostonian Drunkard as his example--who won simply because they were names familiar to decent and civilized people, and not because they had done anything exceptional that given year.
(Of course, that same criticism could be leveled against Democrat politicians in Massachusetts.)
Mr. Wiggum and I will acquiesce to the wishes of the participants, no problem.
This year there's a new award, the "newbie" award, for a primitive who's never been on the list, ever.
For some primitive along the lines of, say, the "snoutpout" primitive, who came out of nowhere this year (and who went back into nowhere), and made quite a splash. It doesn't have to be a primitive who first showed up in 2011, though; it could be any primitive who's never been recognized before--even if the primitive's been on Skins's island for ten years--who was remarkable this year.
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I voted yes. It's a rare DUmmie that can keep it up for two whole years anyway, so it's like a team winning the SUper Bowl two years running. If they can get there they deserve the award.
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This year there's a new award, the "newbie" award, for a primitive who's never been on the list, ever.
For some primitive along the lines of, say, the "snoutpout" primitive, who came out of nowhere this year (and who went back into nowhere), and made quite a splash. It doesn't have to be a primitive who first showed up in 2011, though; it could be any primitive who's never been recognized before--even if the primitive's been on Skins's island for ten years--who was remarkable this year.
I erred, grievously.
My apologies.
The "newbie" award in fact is limited to a primitive who first showed up on Skins's island this past year.
Nothing to do with that the primitive never showed up as a top primitive in the past.
The "newbie" award in fact is limited to a primitive who first showed up on Skins's island this past year.
Sorry for the confusion.
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Nope, no way.
Once they taste teh glory, they modify their behavior in hopes a repeat.
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As much as dummies may cry out for affirmative action and "sharing the wealth", DOTY should be a dishonor that is earned fresh every year.
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Voted "Yes." A floater can stay a floater for quite some time. Eventually, they'll sink to the bottom of the bowl.
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Sorry for double posting, but I just wanted to say: Condolences to HannahBell who may never even attempt to win the Top Dummie Award again. We hardly knew ye. Also, I am somewhat surprised to remember that NadaBrain will most likely shoot up high...very high...from her place at #17 last year. Oh how you grew...
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Sorry for double posting, but I just wanted to say: Condolences to HannahBell who may never even attempt to win the Top Dummie Award again. We hardly knew ye. Also, I am somewhat surprised to remember that NadaBrain will most likely shoot up high...very high...from her place at #17 last year. Oh how you grew...
But the miserable old bitch, Anne, the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, moved up from nineteenth in 2009 to first in 2010, which was surely phenomenal.
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True. It looks as if they're both going to/have made leaps that would make a flea mutter the words "Holy crap!"
DUmmie anomalies never cease to amaze me. (As well as kill a few brain cells.)
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True. It looks as if they're both going to/have made leaps that would make a flea mutter the words "Holy crap!"
DUmmie anomalies never cease to amaze me. (As well as kill a few brain cells.)
Well, while it looks hopeless for the kentuck primitive, I still say the Taverner primitive has a chance to overtake nadin for top primitive of 2011.
The Taverner primitive's going to crack up sooner or later, and if he cracks up before December 14, the end of voting, and goes out amidst a Christmas-shopping crowd at Shopko bearing an AK-45 machine gun, that'll catapult him way past nadin in the voting.
I'm really sure that'd do it.
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Lol. Most surely it would. I think he'll go somewhere between #2 and #8 though. Just my own personal though.
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Lol. Most surely it would. I think he'll go somewhere between #2 and #8 though. Just my own personal thought.
That's my guess too, although I'm guessing #2 or #3.
That is, unless the Taverner primitive cracks up before voting ends.
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I too believe in a meritocracy. DUmmies work hard all year refining and perfecting their DUmbness.
It's not easy sealing yourself off against all reality, ignoring facts, tirelessly campaigning for failed ideas, switching the channels on waiting room TVs and rearranging books at the local bookstore.
In addition, maintaining a state of high pissed-off-ness against the government, capitalism, Christians, conservatives, libertarians, the NRA, pro-lifers, NASCAR, corporations, The Richâ„¢, predator drones, Sarah Palin, all the Palin kids, Wal-Mart, the tortured pig industry, cops, relatives, Hummer drivers, people with flag pins, the Duggars, the Kochs, the Duggar-Koch-prison-industrial-military complex, Thomas Kincade paintings, pro-circumcisionists, race traitor non-Democrat minority members, smokers, fast food consumers, soldiers (except those at OWS encampments), Toby Keith, receipt checkers, schmucks who demand they pay their credit card bills, banks, bankers, bank tellers, bank shots, riverbanks, the Tea Party, tea parties, non-fair trade tea, Chick-fil-A, religious holidays, patriotic holidays, people who say "God bless you", people who say "Have a blessed day", people who pray at football games, people who are happy, Hugo bashers, Fidel bashers, Cubans who no longer live in Cuba, former Vice Presidents who won't die fast enough, the Minutemen, farmers who won't hire illegals, farmers who do hire illegals, Anthony Weiner's weiner, any TV network that doesn't have "Current" in their name, Remember The Troops bumper stickers, remembering the troops at all, the Bush tax cuts, employers who demand you work your way up, employers who demand you come in on time, employers who won't hire you if you have "**** The BFEE" tatooed in visible areas, homeschoolers, charter schools, parochial schools, the Chicago School, the school of hard knocks, vending machines in schools, people who worked their way out of poverty, people who thank veterans for their service, people who thank God for anything, dating web sites that don't allow Gays, Gays that vote Republican, people who insist on using public parks that rightfully belong to OWSies, corporal punishment, not punishing Corporals, men who hold the door for women, men who call women "sweetie", artificial sweeteners, high fructose corn syrup, Leave It To Beaver, insufficient Port-A-Potties, undercounting protesters, counting absentee military ballots, nuclear power, the oil industry, foreign cars, domestic cars, The Star Spangled Banner, Creationism, the idea that wealth can be created, children, people who love their children, people who buy Happy Meals for children, people who have more than 0.5 children, talk radio, houses with flags in the yard, houses with guns in them, houses with affluent people in them, charities, Bible verses on coffee cups, trophy cups, women with D cups, and guys who won't watch Brokeback Mountain and cry, just to name a few, is not easy.
So anyone who can accomplish all that, regardless of whether they have won before, should have a shot at the title.
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But the miserable old bitch, Anne, the dysmenopausal Kansas school teacher, moved up from nineteenth in 2009 to first in 2010, which was surely phenomenal.
That was an accomplishment of her campaign manager, a fact the Omaha Weeper should have noted.
By the way, the weeper seems to be taking the advice of much wiser people by dialing back his presence at the DUmp.
Still looking forward to his campaign kickoff banquet at grasswire's pie shop.
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^5 Dandi. That was a keyboardful!! :rotf:
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I was the one who voted "not sure." I'll own it. It all depends.
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That was an accomplishment of her campaign manager, a fact the Omaha Weeper should have noted.
Thank you, sir, I'm flattered, as public relations and marketing has always been my thing.
Anyway.
******ANNOUNCEMENT******
After considering all the insight here, there will be NO rule against repeats; the Top DUmmies of 2011 will carry on as it predecessors had, exactly the same rules now, as were the rules before.
All those experienced in nominating and voting can do exactly as they've done in the past; they know the drill, they know how it goes. They are to do things exactly the same way they've always done them.
No changes in the rules, especially this one.
Sometimes I tend to forget my own rule: keep things simple.
The "Official Nominating Thread," with all the rules, such as the rules are, will be posted in the DUmpster some time on Sunday, November 20.
However, it will be "locked" (no comments) until some time Thanksgiving Eve, November 23, probably around, oh, supper-time, I guess. This is to give newcomers a chance to read it at their leisure before worrying about saying anything.
And then nominations and comments will be solicited for the next ten days.
Nominations will be solicited for the top primitives of 2011.
Nominations will additionally be solicited for the three special awards; the Willie, the newbie, and the broken elbow awards.
The criteria and procedure will be described in the "Official Nominating Thread," although again, those who've been involved with this in the past already know what those things are.
Carry on; it's going to be a great lot of fun.
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Without a doubt, yes.
If they earn and deserve it.