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Title: Cain passes lie detector test
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 10, 2011, 12:04:06 PM
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Private investigator TJ Ward said presidential hopeful Herman Cain was not lying at a news conference on Tuesday in Phoenix.

Cain denied making any sexual actions towards Sharon Bialek and vowed to take a polygraph test if necessary to prove his innocence.

Cain has not taken a polygraph but Ward said he does have software that does something better.

Ward said the $15,000 software can detect lies in people’s voices.

CBS Atlanta’s Mike Paluska played Cain’s speech for Ward into the software and watched as it analyzed Cain’s every word.

If he is hiding something this thing would have spiked way down here,” said Ward.  “He is being truthful, totally truthful.  He is a man with integrity and he talked directly about not knowing any incident he is accused of.”

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During the section of Bialek’s news conference where she says, “He suddenly reached over put his hand on my leg under my skirt and reached for my genitals he also grabbed my head brought it towards his crotch.”

During the analysis of that section the software said “high risk statement.”  Ward said that means she is not  telling the truth about what happened.

“I don’t think she is fabricating her meetings,” said Ward.  But, she is fabricating what transpired.”

Kind of an unproven technology.

Vid at link

http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2011/11/10/video-lie-detecting-speech-software-shows-cain-to-be-totally-truthful-his-accuser-not-so-much/
Title: Re: Cain passes lie detector test
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on November 10, 2011, 12:34:21 PM
I heard that not only is it reliable, but it's even more so than the polygraph. I just wish this guy would do the same to all of Obama's speeches, press conferences, etc. I'd bet that the readout would be redder than Stalin.
Title: Re: Cain passes lie detector test
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 10, 2011, 12:53:40 PM
I heard that not only is it reliable, but it's even more so than the polygraph. I just wish this guy would do the same to all of Obama's speeches, press conferences, etc. I'd bet that the readout would be redder than Stalin.

It's as reliable as the polygraph, and not subject to vagaries of body chemistry and physiology the way a poly is.  People wildly overestimate poligraphs and do not understand how they are actually used.  The poly is extremely useful as a tool in an interrogation, but not so much in and of itself.
Title: Re: Cain passes lie detector test
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 10, 2011, 01:19:03 PM
I would guess the readings from the press conferences is a more reliable state for the test subject as well. When you are being strapped to a poly you know it and all the anticipation/anxiety/stress goes with it.

Both subjects went into those speeches on their own terms in their own minds not expecting to be tested. Your most unguarded moments are your most revealing.
Title: Re: Cain passes lie detector test
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 10, 2011, 04:26:02 PM
When you are being strapped to a poly you know it and all the anticipation/anxiety/stress goes with it.

That kind of gets to why the technical results are so often inconclusive and therefore useless in themselves, but a tremendous aid to a skilled interrogator willing to work on the subject for an hour or two beforehand and a couple of more hours afterward.

 :-)
Title: Re: Cain passes lie detector test
Post by: Freeper on November 10, 2011, 05:10:53 PM
I'm sure they will claim that the guy running the test works for Cain.  :whatever:

Title: Re: Cain passes lie detector test
Post by: Ptarmigan on November 10, 2011, 07:01:02 PM
Investigator: Herman Cain innocent of sexual advances
http://www.therightscoop.com/investigator-herman-cain-innocent-of-sexual-advances/
Title: Re: Cain passes lie detector test
Post by: ChuckJ on November 10, 2011, 08:33:51 PM
It's as reliable as the polygraph, and not subject to vagaries of body chemistry and physiology the way a poly is.  People wildly overestimate poligraphs and do not understand how they are actually used.  The poly is extremely useful as a tool in an interrogation, but not so much in and of itself.

How long has the technology been in use DAT?

I ask because probably 15 years ago I had a friend who was questioned in regards to a case against a cop, and they put him through some sort of voice analysis. At the time I didn't have a clue what he was talking about. I kept asking him if it was a polygraph and he kept saying voice analysis.
Title: Re: Cain passes lie detector test
Post by: Firechild on November 10, 2011, 11:30:53 PM
I heard that not only is it reliable, but it's even more so than the polygraph. I just wish this guy would do the same to all of Obama's speeches, press conferences, etc. I'd bet that the readout would be redder than Stalin.
I'm amazed how the goonies still follow, the supreme village idiot...Just amazed.  :suckup:
Title: Re: Cain passes lie detector test
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 11, 2011, 09:51:33 AM
How long has the technology been in use DAT?

I ask because probably 15 years ago I had a friend who was questioned in regards to a case against a cop, and they put him through some sort of voice analysis. At the time I didn't have a clue what he was talking about. I kept asking him if it was a polygraph and he kept saying voice analysis.

Although the ease of use has constatntly changed and supporting body of work grown over the whole time, and digitization along with the algorithms to support it are relatively new, the concept goes back to at least the 70s, and I think at least the 50s as far as the concept of using voiceprints for simple identification is concerned.