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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dandi on November 08, 2011, 02:35:43 PM
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Whatever your opinion of how many kids the Duggars have, you have to love the way they put The Hive in such a snit.
RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Nov-08-11 09:03 AM
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20 kids and counting! Michelle Duggar announces she's pregnant again
Michelle Duggar and her husband Jim Bob are expecting their 20th child, the couple revealed exclusively to TODAY.
"We are so excited," Michelle Duggar told TODAY Moms before the broadcast. Now three and a half months pregnant, the mom of 19 says she was actually surprised to discover that she's expecting again at 45. "I was not thinking that God would give us another one, and we are just so grateful."
The super-sized family stars in its own reality TV show, “19 Kids and Counting,†on TLC (guess they will have to update the title!).
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Michelle Duggar’s last pregnancy was fraught with danger. She suffered from gall-bladder problems as well as preeclampsia. In order to save her life, doctors delivered daughter Josie three and a half months prematurely – she weighed only one pound, six ounces at birth, and endured a series of health emergencies, including a perforated bowel. Josie eventually went home with the rest of the Duggar family, and is now a healthy toddler who will celebrate her second birthday in December.
http://moms.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/07/868437...
Sorry but I have to wonder if this is some kind of mental illness.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2261880
I've never seen a mental illness the characteristics of which include "excessive child bearing". I would venture my personal opinion, though, that 50,000,000 abortions is a pretty good indication of a sick society. But whatever.
vi5 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Nov-08-11 09:05 AM
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1. You have to wonder? Seriously?
You have to wonder whether the compulsion to have 20 kids is some kind of mental illness?
I'm sorry, I don't care who it offends this is just ridiculous and yes, it is a mental illness.
get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Nov-08-11 09:56 AM
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36. Yes but we were allowed to criticize her
Since these people are ****ing, idiotic religious nuts after money we have to applaud them for what they do and give them a TV show.
teachthemwell15 (61 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Nov-08-11 10:48 AM
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86. Just my opinion....
..... but the whole situation with Michelle and Jim Bob (I think I've got it right) is soooooo self serving, all in the name of "God".
hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Nov-08-11 09:14 AM
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3. I'm vehemently pro-choice.... But, for all my fellow women who say that this is
her choice and one I have to respect, I say BULLSHIT. Maybe about 10 births ago, I might have agreed, but......Even if one could ignore the overwhelming and disproportionate drain on global resources that comes from such exaggerated reproduction, the fact is that WE are supporting these kids. Given the number of little tax deductions (ignoring their tv reality show), their parents are actually making money from all these births. Not to mention the very preventable drain on medical resources.
No, I don't respect their choice. It is unseemly and disgusting, IMO. Sorry to any fellow feminists who feel otherwise, but I call Bullshit.
Drain on medical resources? So you're saying that because of all these children getting medical care, some other child is having to do without?
If I were to say, "A bunch of gays buggering each other without protection is leading to AIDS and causing a drain on medical resources", you'd shit yourself blind and scream about what a bigot I am.
get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Nov-08-11 09:39 AM
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20. Stockholm Syndrome, brainwashing
They are part of the Quiverfull movement. I am also sick of women who have been raised like abused dogs via some whacked out religion being expected that they are able to exercise their rights just like those of us fortunate enough to come from more normal, humane backgrounds that believed in equality.
laundry_queen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Nov-08-11 09:43 AM
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24. Total brainwashing
Most of these women think if they don't 'accept God's blessings' they are going to hell. And having a baby is supposed to be the way into heaven for them. So they keep on having 'em, thinking this is their 'duty'. Building God's Army and all that crap is factored in as well. It is a cult, plain and simple .
Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Nov-08-11 09:44 AM
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25. what she's addicted to is that money-media gravy train, which was slowing down
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 09:46 AM by Blue_Tires
and thank you to NBC for enabling these ****heads...
get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Nov-08-11 10:12 AM
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52. Pro-choice does not mean
we need to applaud this idiot, nor does it take away our freedom of speech in criticizing her. Just like with freedom of speech, criticism is NOT the government removing a right.
Yeah? What if I were to go there and say, "I don't think there should be laws restricting abortion rights, but in my opinion it is killing an unborn child and a selfish act on the part of the mother. It also cheapens life and degrades society".
What would you say about me voicing my opinion? Guaranteed, you'd be asking how dare I be so judgmental and you'd be calling for me to get a pizza. Hypocritical twit.
The OP also spins off two other threads worth a look:
Is a Woman's Right to Choose Absolute and Unconditional?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2262390
If it is considered unacceptable to pass judgment on a woman
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2263192
Both rife with that famous DU hypocrisy and rationalization.
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I too wonder how someone can give so many children enough "Me" time but I will bet my last dollar that we will never see one of their children in jail, abusive to another person, pregnant out of wedlock or on drugs.
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The DUmmies are in a snit because 20 opportunities for abortion have been denied.
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The DUmmies are in a snit because 20 opportunities for abortion have been denied.
That's it, that's exactly it.
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That's it, that's exactly it.
Easily fixed. They can perform post-term abortions on themselves. I figure 30-40 or so of them ought to make the score even, and free up those vital medical resources.
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AS far as I know, they're not on welfare, foodstamps, WIC vouchers, gov. housing, etc., etc..... BUT if they were the DUmmies would be defending her right to have as many children as she wanted.
The DUmmies see 20 possible future conservative votes and that's what's upsetting them so much.
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A part of me thinks it's nuts, but they're a really nice family, the kids are taken care of and seem well adjusted, and the Parents are able to take care of them financially, so it's really no one's business if they decide to have more kids.
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As far as I know, they're not on welfare, foodstamps, WIC vouchers, gov. housing, etc., etc..... BUT if they were the DUmmies would be defending her right to have as many children as she wanted.
The DUmmies see 20 possible future conservative votes and that's what's upsetting them so much.
Again, that's it, that's exactly it.
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Dummies show their bias on so many levels...the pro-choice one has been touched upon, but consider this: as far as the drain on 'wordly resources' the ethnicity known as white European are not even meeting replacement level at this point, yet places like India, the Muslim world, and south of the border pushes us towards record numbers of souls on the planet. Yet their ire is directed at the family who fit into the former ethnicity not even meeting replacement level. Something tells me if this family were of a different hue or religious persuasion, they'd have absolutely no issue with the number of children being brought into the world. Again, remember, the bias of the DUmmies really fuels their hatred towards the Duggars; they represent everything that they loathe: self-sufficiency, positive values, morals, Christian faith, long term marriage, live in the south, and they are white. There's nothing there for their types to like so they aren't going to focus on the positive in this situation. Seems to be their resources would be better spent schooling a muslim man with 4 wives and 30 children on how he's draining the resources of the world. Somehow I think their fear would preclude them from doing any such thing. Cowardly bigots!
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Even if one could ignore the overwhelming and disproportionate drain on global resources that comes from such exaggerated reproduction, the fact is that WE are supporting these kids.
Wrong, dipshit. And how are these people any more of a drain than 22 liberal wastes-of-skin OWS protestors?
Given the number of little tax deductions (ignoring their tv reality show), their parents are actually making money from all these births. Not to mention the very preventable drain on medical resources.
Go take a tax class, moron. It's far more expensive to properly raise a child than the money you save on taxes. The only people who make money having babies are welfare recipients who don't feed, clothe, or educate their kids. Kind of like most DUers. And again, lots of drug abuse illnesses, STDs, and other "easily preventable" sicknesses are committed and promoted by liberal scum like you.
Not to mention, to keep up with all of the liberal entitlement program ponzi schemes, we're going to need more taxpayers in the future, lol. What a @#%$ing idiot.
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Dummies show their bias on so many levels...the pro-choice one has been touched upon, but consider this: as far as the drain on 'wordly resources' the ethnicity known as white European are not even meeting replacement level at this point, yet places like India, the Muslim world, and south of the border pushes us towards record numbers of souls on the planet. Yet their ire is directed at the family who fit into the former ethnicity not even meeting replacement level. Something tells me if this family were of a different hue or religious persuasion, they'd have absolutely no issue with the number of children being brought into the world. Again, remember, the bias of the DUmmies really fuels their hatred towards the Duggars; they represent everything that they loathe: self-sufficiency, positive values, morals, Christian faith, long term marriage, live in the south, and they are white. There's nothing there for their types to like so they aren't going to focus on the positive in this situation. Seems to be their resources would be better spent schooling a muslim man with 4 wives and 30 children on how he's draining the resources of the world. Somehow I think their fear would preclude them from doing any such thing. Cowardly bigots!
:cheersmate:
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They constantly tell us that abortion is a private issue between a woman and her
butcher doctor, yet when women want to have babies it's no longer a private decision.
Once again they show us that pro choice is the wrong term, the only choice they condone is aborting.
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From a different thread. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2266834
quinnox (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-08-11 09:02 PM
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I don't give a fig if someone has 40 kids, its none of my
business. Why is this story even in the freakin' news anyhow.
A voice of reason, and several DUmmies agree. However, this is just sick.
Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-08-11 09:14 PM
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14. That is the thing about choice
I don't have to like theirs, they don't have to like mine.
We just have to respect that each of us has a right to our OWN choice and leave it at that.
And let us be honest here...seriously, for every Duggar child, there are multitudes of abortions done that can offset the balance of damage to the earth.
I personally would rather have 20 abortions than 20 kids.
But, that is MY choice.
Let's just keep our eye on the prize. Preserve choice for ALL!
I wonder how many babies the whore with no shame may have killed?
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Her uterus has been scraped so many times, you could read a newspaper through it.
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I can see their problem. The Duggars have raised some well adjusted, bright and well behaved children. The DUmmies however have spawned the exact opposite.
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Wonder how many children Ethel Kennedy would have produced had her husband not been assassinated. She was carrying their eleventh when he died.
Think the DUmpers would have a problem with a Kennedy having twenty kids?
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From a different thread. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2266834
A voice of reason, and several DUmmies agree. However, this is just sick.
I wonder how many babies the whore with no shame may have killed?
The mask slips completely with that thread. They're not just "pro-choice", they're pro-abortion, despite all their previous protestations to the contrary.
Of course, we all knew that.
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Dummies show their bias on so many levels...the pro-choice one has been touched upon, but consider this: as far as the drain on 'wordly resources' the ethnicity known as white European are not even meeting replacement level at this point, yet places like India, the Muslim world, and south of the border pushes us towards record numbers of souls on the planet. Yet their ire is directed at the family who fit into the former ethnicity not even meeting replacement level. Something tells me if this family were of a different hue or religious persuasion, they'd have absolutely no issue with the number of children being brought into the world. Again, remember, the bias of the DUmmies really fuels their hatred towards the Duggars; they represent everything that they loathe: self-sufficiency, positive values, morals, Christian faith, long term marriage, live in the south, and they are white. There's nothing there for their types to like so they aren't going to focus on the positive in this situation. Seems to be their resources would be better spent schooling a muslim man with 4 wives and 30 children on how he's draining the resources of the world. Somehow I think their fear would preclude them from doing any such thing. Cowardly bigots!
I had to H5 this. Everything you've written is absolutely true.
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I can see their problem. The Duggars have raised some well adjusted, bright and well behaved children. The DUmmies however have spawned the exact opposite.
But they feel good about it. :hammer:
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My my, a rather rare thing has occurred, Frank used a smiley. :panic:
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-08-11 09:14 PM
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14. That is the thing about choice
I don't have to like theirs, they don't have to like mine.
We just have to respect that each of us has a right to our OWN choice and leave it at that.
And let us be honest here...seriously, for every Duggar child, there are multitudes of abortions done that can offset the balance of damage to the earth.
I personally would rather have 20 abortions than 20 kids.
But, that is MY choice.
Let's just keep our eye on the prize. Preserve choice for ALL!
Tell you what Horsey, how about killing yourself so you can offset the damage being done to mother earth by one person? You are one sick twisted individual to celebrate abortion as being green. :banghead:
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The Duggars have raised some well adjusted, bright and well behaved children. The DUmmies however have spawned the exact opposite.
I agree, but that doesn't make the Duggars any less crazy.