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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on November 06, 2011, 08:00:20 AM
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-06-11 12:45 AM
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Many upset charity donating food to Occupy Portland
Many upset charity donating food to Occupy Portland
PORTLAND, Ore. - A local charity donating food to Occupy Portland protesters received a lot of angry calls Friday from people who said they won't donate anymore food to it.
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"We would never refuse anybody of food no matter who they are," Straus said. "If it's their choice to camp out, they're still there. They're cold. They still need food."
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"They were angry," Straus said. "They were very explicit: How dare I should do that and why would I do something like that?"
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But Straus said it shouldn't matter. She has plenty of food and said most of the 300 pounds she gave away Friday was going to expire in the next day or so anyway. And she said it doesn't affect the food supply she has for the other thousands of hungry people she feeds. She stressed it's not any sort of political statement.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/133287343.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2250050
nobodyspecial (214 posts) Sun Nov-06-11 01:24 AM
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1. This is exactly why we need federal and state safety nets
You would have people deciding if you were "worthy" of being fed, as if being a fellow human being simply wasn't enough.
Here's a crazy idea, let the OWieS bring their own damn food. If they can afford IPONES, IPADS, $5000 Macs, then they can buy their own damn food.
The Tea Party fed themselves.
Hotler (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-06-11 08:54 AM
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12. Selfishness is alive and well. I wonder how many of the people that complained
call themselves Christian????
Jesus said feed the poor, he didn't say to enable the lazy.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2250050
Here's a crazy idea, let the OWieS bring their own damn food. If they can afford IPONES, IPADS, $5000 Macs, then they can buy their own damn food.
The Tea Party fed themselves.
Jesus said feed the poor, he didn't say to enable the lazy.
I was tossing over the increase in "Street Preachers" over at the dump just last night wondering what to call them.
Online Socialist Soul Savers ?
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Here's a crazy idea, let the OWieS bring their own damn food. If they can afford IPONES, IPADS, $5000 Macs, then they can buy their own damn food.
Uh huh.
But probably they'd just as soon spend their green paper with drug dealers on-site.
Sort of like the way the primitives use credit cards to buy groceries, but cash for dope.
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OWS probably has $500k in donations, but will suck down everything free they can get.
Free stuff. Free ponies. Donations going for free drugs. Free Free free. Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie.
And the democrats see a political advantage to cozy up to leeches?
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OWS probably has $500k in donations, but will suck down everything free they can get.
Free stuff. Free ponies. Donations going for free drugs. Free Free free. Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie.
And the democrats see a political advantage to cozy up to leeches?
Absolutely!
Guaranteed Democrat votes.
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I would stop donating to that food bank, too. IMO, food banks are for those who can't do for themselves, not for a bunch of immature brats out slumming.
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Here's the problem they are having with the charity dummies. These are individuals who have CHOSEN to be out there in the 'cold' and be 'hungry'. Why should someone who has chosen to sit out on a street corner for their beliefs be furnished with food intended for people who really need it because they don't have the resources with which to obtain it? It is selfish what these people are doing by seeking out the charities. As much as a stickler food banks get in, especially during this time of year, they are STEALING resources from individuals who truly are needy. Unfortunately one of the reasons safety nets have become 'needed' is because people without ethics or integrity like your own demtenjeep and these protestors access resources meant for those truly destitute and they do it for the most selfish reasons of all: just to save themselves pennies for things they WANT versus what they NEED. And sitting on the street corner to pressure businesses to the point you use up your last dollar sent by mom and dad is a WANT, not a need. Many of those individuals could quite easily pull up the tents and go home and not tap both the local, state, federal, and charitable resources just because they want to hang out on the corner. IMO, ZERO help should be going of any government related money anyway since the explicit goal of these individuals is to upset that very order that they are taking the handout from.
Here's an idea...how about one of those trust fund kids sitting out there dig deep in their pocket and furnish the resources for this little shindig to continue if they really believe in it so much? I like traditions like Thanksgiving and Christmas but I don't ask other people to fund my long standing traditions just cause I wanna do them. Of course this self-reliance and integrity when it comes to backing ones own beliefs is not evident with any of those human disasters sitting out there calling for the downfall of that which keeps many of them in the comfort they are used too when not stomping their feet to be part of something they consider relevant in history.
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It most certainly was a political statement. Food banks and homeless shelters all have rules, regulations, requirements, they're just far more compassionate than those Uncle Sam wrote. The donations given to these charities are quite clearly intended to help those that cannot find shelter and food. They were not intended for those that are destroying property, assaulting elderly and handicapped people, spreading disease among themselves, wasting taxpayer money on law enforcement and clean up, and demanding that they be given what everyone must earn!
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jtyangel said:
Snip...Here's an idea...how about one of those trust fund kids sitting out there dig deep in their pocket and furnish the resources for this little shindig to continue if they really believe in it so much? ...Snip
/DU trust fundie mode: ON
The trust fundies would rather not. What Mom, Dad and most likely Grandpa have set aside for, or give to, them is theirs. Those iMacs, iPhones (or Android Smart Phones) cost, like, hundreds and the connection fees are pretty steep. And then there's the beer for the Friday night Dorm keggers. And dope. Besides, we're the 99%. Everybody should give us stuff. And the Pantry's donation? It will be thrown out. Wasn't fresh enough for our cultured palates.
/DU trust fundie mode: OFF
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Ladies (MrsSmith, Jetty, longview) you've said it better than I could, in three different ways, H5s all around!
:cheersmate:
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Uh huh.
But probably they'd just as soon spend their green paper with drug dealers on-site.
Sort of like the way the primitives use credit cards to buy groceries, but cash for dope.
Oh that one's easy, Frank. There's less of a paper trail when dealing with dopers if you use straight cash.
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The Tea Party fed themselves.
That is because we actually have jobs.
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^ And know how to use utensils.
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That is because we actually have jobs.
Also, I don't know a single Tea Party person who wants freebies from anyone.
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These scumbag hippies don't want a "safety net" they want a hammock, for life.
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I donate food once a month to a pantry, my Church and a towns pantry, and I would be really ticked off if I found out my donations were going to protesters who've been proven to have more than enough money to take care of themselves. I donate so people who are in actual need get the food, not these people who are partying it up.
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These scumbag hippies don't want a "safety net" they want a hammock, for life.
And they're taking food out of the mouth of the people they're supposedly protesting for.
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And they're taking food out of the mouth of the people they're supposedly protesting for.
Good bottom line statement.
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And they're taking food out of the mouth of the people they're supposedly protesting for.
:clap: :clap:
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And they're taking food out of the mouth of the people they're supposedly protesting for.
H5 for that one.
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nobodyspecial (214 posts) Sun Nov-06-11 01:24 AM
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1. This is exactly why we need federal and state safety nets
You would have people deciding if you were "worthy" of being fed, as if being a fellow human being simply wasn't enough.
Federal and state programs do decide if you're "worthy", dumbass, based on your income level and number of dependents. That's the whole point. If you are capable of providing for yourself, you don't get the assistance.
Try going down to your local welfare office and saying, "I'm a fellow human being, give me some food stamps", and see if that qualifies you.
Idiot.
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Federal and state programs do decide if you're "worthy", dumbass, based on your income level and number of dependents. That's the whole point. If you are capable of providing for yourself, you don't get the assistance.
Try going down to your local welfare office and saying, "I'm a fellow human being, give me some food stamps", and see if that qualifies you.
Idiot.
Uhhh, In Massachusetts being human and breathing qualifies you. :argh: Home of Aunt Zeituni and Uncle Onyango.
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Uhhh, In Massachusetts being human and breathing qualifies you. :argh: Home of Aunt Zeituni and Uncle Onyango.
A highly five worthy observation!
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I would stop donating to that food bank, too. IMO, food banks are for those who can't do for themselves, not for a bunch of immature brats out slumming.
A food bank with 300 pounds of food expiring in the next day? Most food banks in the country that I'm aware of are struggling. How did this one end up with 300 pounds of extra food?
On that note, I would be very suspicious of any food bank that has loads of food sitting on the shelves. Either there is a logistics issue, or someone isn't getting the word out, so they can skim free groceries for themselves.
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I would stop donating to that food bank, too. IMO, food banks are for those who can't do for themselves, not for a bunch of immature brats out slumming.
I think I'd go ahead and donate food to the OWSies from my food bank. However, it'd be the absolute DREGS of what people have donated. Canned spinach, canned potatoes, anything truly NASTY tasting. I'd definitely save the more edible stuff for those in true need of food, not a psych eval. :p
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I think I'd go ahead and donate food to the OWSies from my food bank. However, it'd be the absolute DREGS of what people have donated. Canned spinach, canned potatoes, anything truly NASTY tasting. I'd definitely save the more edible stuff for those in true need of food, not a psych eval. :p
You should add those special ex-lax brownies to your list. :-)
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You should add those special ex-lax brownies to your list. :-)
Heh, but tell them *wink wink* the extra ingredient is ganja, not ex-lax. :lmao:
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BH posted that the Porta Potties will be removed tomorrow at Occupest Portland because of vandalism, and the Unions that are paying for the Porta Potties refuse to pay the increase in fees that the Company wants, so my question is this, 300 pounds of food were taken from hard working families to feed the Occupest protesters who BTW are infested with lice, with no Porta Potties where will all that food go after it goes through the persons bowels?
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BH posted that the Porta Potties will be removed tomorrow at Occupest Portland because of vandalism, and the Unions that are paying for the Porta Potties refuse to pay the increase in fees that the Company wants, so my question is this, 300 pounds of food were taken from hard working families to feed the Occupest protesters who BTW are infested with lice, with no Porta Potties where will all that food go after it goes through the persons bowels?
Where would it have gone before? Remember, most of these Occupoopers were homeless bums before they became "protesters".
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A food bank with 300 pounds of food expiring in the next day? Most food banks in the country that I'm aware of are struggling. How did this one end up with 300 pounds of extra food?
On that note, I would be very suspicious of any food bank that has loads of food sitting on the shelves. Either there is a logistics issue, or someone isn't getting the word out, so they can skim free groceries for themselves.
A lot of stores will donate a lot food on edge of expiration and if two or three stores donate at almost the same time it is not had to end up with 300 pounds and sometimes you just can not get rid of it fast enough even these days. In fact the one time I went they really wanted me to take more then I needed since it was going to turn soon. I got a lot of stuff from the bakery and deli ( lemon cake, cookies, bbq wings...stuff like that ). I know 300 sounds like a lot but if I were to weigh what I took home that day it would have come close to 100 pounds. That was about a month of food for one person. So yeah, 300 could have fed a family of three or four for a month but it would not have lasted that long.
Now having said that that food should have gone to the local mission and NOT to a bunch of kids and freaks with HOMES they can GO BACK TO to eat. I'll bet you a buck almost all of them either have money or food stamps and just don't want to dip into their own stash.