kentuck (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-01-11 09:45 PMhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2226518
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I think the government should buy up farmland in Nebraska and Kansas...
Because I think it is possible that we are entering a time that will be more difficult than the Great Depression. People will need food and shelter and work. It will be necessary to return to the earth in order to survive.
People will create their own little towns from survival communes. They will build their own simple houses. They will farm the land to grow food to feed the rest of America that can no longer afford the prices of the corporate farmers. The government will buy the food, much like they did in the Great Depression, and distribute it to the neediest people in our country.
I think that time may be closer than we think? I do not think we will be a manufacturing country for much longer. I think we are returning to an agrarian society. The times will be very difficult and those that survive will be those that hang together.
Our empire is dying. We will need to change to make it in the new country. Cities will die. Detroit is only the first, even though it is still hanging on. Others will follow. American cities will become like ghost towns with only a few businesses able to maintain an existence. Jobs will disappear. We will have to return to the land out of necessity.
This may seem like a paranoid dream? But I think this is a possible future scenario. It will probably happen after two or three years of natural disasters, such as drought or another dust bowl? I think a wise government would prepare for such an event. Buy up the land so people will be able to work and survive and feed the hungry of this nation.
This is the vision I have of America.
teddy51 (620 posts) Tue Nov-01-11 09:50 PM
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1. I suspect that your vision isn't to far fetched either. We are headed directly
into this scenario at an alarming speed.
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-01-11 09:52 PM
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3. Kansas farmland has way too much natural gas under it.
Oil too.
But there are plenty of dead and dying towns all over Kansas.
RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-01-11 09:55 PM
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5. I don't think you're too far off base. IMO I think we are going to see radical
changes in this country. This insane Ponzi scheme with endless virtual cash is insane. I think we will be in a major global financial crisis and once faith in the currency falters and China takes the lead in 2016, as some have postulated, we will have to do a radical realignment for survival.
Sadly America has done its best to work itself into being non-essential to the world once our financial status diminishes. It seems our core industry is implements of war, not much to brag about IMO in the big picture.
To add:
Why would the largest city in the Sandhills, population 8,000 (the second-largest is 3,000) be located on the edge of the Sandhills, rather than in them?
The Sandhills are a pretty large part of Nebraska, and it's obvious that the ancient collective wisdom of our forebears was right; it's no place for thriving small-town farm communities located only ten miles apart all the way across the state. We're not Iowa, after all.
kentuck (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-01-11 09:45 PMWeren't these morons complaining the other month about the federal government owning too much land already?
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I think the government should buy up farmland in Nebraska and Kansas...
I think the government should buy up farmland in Nebraska and Kansas...
I think the DUmmie was wanting to buy up land in red states.
I think the DUmmie was wanting to buy up land in red states.
Some nice country, Coach . . . now, if there was a big-racked and big-bodied whitetail deer within 200 yards, that would be the capstone. :yahoo:
Typical primitive simplethink.
Um, excuse me DUmmie, but the reason we can afford all the food we have now is BECAUSE of "corporate" farms and all the other things corporations make like fertilizer, tractors, and all the scientist and engineers they have employed over the years. Going back to your ideal dirt farm would starve most of the population of not only this country but the world. That one dollar can of peas that you can keep for months in your kitchen would cost a hell of a lot more.
I am getting sick of this fantasy they all have of becoming farmers. IT IS NOT AS EASY AS YOU ALL SEEM TO THINK DUmbasses!
BTW, since when is there some sort of food shortage in this country?
kentuck (1000+ posts) Tue Nov-01-11 09:45 PMGreat! It'll be like a retarded Little House On The Prairie! Can't wait! :whatever:
Original message
I think the government should buy up farmland in Nebraska and Kansas...
Because I think it is possible that we are entering a time that will be more difficult than the Great Depression. People will need food and shelter and work. It will be necessary to return to the earth in order to survive.
People will create their own little towns from survival communes. They will build their own simple houses. They will farm the land to grow food to feed the rest of America that can no longer afford the prices of the corporate farmers. The government will buy the food, much like they did in the Great Depression, and distribute it to the neediest people in our country.
I think that time may be closer than we think? I do not think we will be a manufacturing country for much longer. I think we are returning to an agrarian society. The times will be very difficult and those that survive will be those that hang together.
Our empire is dying. We will need to change to make it in the new country. Cities will die. Detroit is only the first, even though it is still hanging on. Others will follow. American cities will become like ghost towns with only a few businesses able to maintain an existence. Jobs will disappear. We will have to return to the land out of necessity.
This may seem like a paranoid dream? But I think this is a possible future scenario. It will probably happen after two or three years of natural disasters, such as drought or another dust bowl? I think a wise government would prepare for such an event. Buy up the land so people will be able to work and survive and feed the hungry of this nation.
This is the vision I have of America.
Oh they love to romanticize the self-sustaining communal farm life. They have no idea.
Out west we think in how many acres it will take to support one head of cattle, in the east they think in terms of cattle per acre.
Their comunes have been tried, and failed. Someone has to do the work.
They won't be too keen on governemnt work camps once the Republicans are in power. They may find themselves having to do some actual work. :-)Yeah, but.
I agree with the DUmmy, but I don't think these work camps should be in the continental U.S. It would be much better if they were located in American territories or protectorates like Samoa, or Midway, or Wake, or the Marianas Islands.
There could be a network of such camps, and DUmpmonkeys who have given up on America could be designated for mandatory resettlement.
It's a system that worked great for Stalin for 30 years, and it would avoid keeping these DUmbasses among us in the re-education centers most of the DUmmies believe were built for Wal-Mart.
During the Chinese Cultural Revolution the Communist Party built and utilized what were referred to as re-education camps. These camps were essentially prisons in which the detainees were forced to work. Those sent to the camps were often teachers, doctors, thinkers, writers, or politicians whose views were either considered “counter-revolutionaryâ€or who were simply denounced by members of the Red Guard for any number of reasons. Communist Party thought of the time was that anyone who was against the Revolution—a category which included most intellectuals—was considered bourgeois, and therefore time spent doing tough labor in the camps would provide them the empathy for the common worker that they were surely lacking. In addition, many political opponents were sent tithe camps, including Deng Xiaoping himself, who was interned there three times and would eventually become the leader of the Chinese Communist Party.
http://www.pwf.cz/en/culture/china/2198.html
Gotta disagree with you GOBUCKS. Remember your history from WWII when the Empire of Japan siezed Wake, Guam then tried to sieze Midway and the absolute panic it caused in the West. Them stupid DU bastards would at the very least hand those gateways to the Chinese.You seem to believe the DUmmies would be free to move around outside the perimeter of the camps.
Far better to put them to work in the frozen interior of Alaska where we'd only have to keep an eye on them for one short summer of fun for them, playing with wildlife.
Whatever the bears and wolves don't "recycle" the winter will make DUmmie-cicles out of.
I like the islands idea, GOBUCKS, but I'd go for the outer Aleutians.
I like the islands idea, GOBUCKS, but I'd go for the outer Aleutians.
and therefore time spent doing tough labor in the camps would provide them the empathy for the common worker that they were surely lacking.:o Hey lurking DUmmies, you sure you want Communist rule?
Well, I suggested the tropical locations out of concern for the comfort of the garrison troops.
They would be no less inhospitable for the inmates, and much less harsh for the troops. They're also more remote than the Aleutians.
It could be similar to the French philosophy on Devil's Island, but on a much larger scale.
Adolph and Joseph are smiling.
Lest we forget, the DUmmies advocating this "change", do not see themselves as the work force.
They view themselves as the "administrators", of said work force.
A common delusion, seemingly held by all of them.
Well, I suggested the tropical locations out of concern for the comfort of the garrison troops.
They would be no less inhospitable for the inmates, and much less harsh for the troops. They're also more remote than the Aleutians.
It could be similar to the French philosophy on Devil's Island, but on a much larger scale.
How many "5-year plans" did the USSR have that were supposed to improve their agricultural output?
That would explain why we had to sell them all that wheat back in the 60's & 70's. :lmao: