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No, this is not a news story. But I'm betting that Gloria Allred's law firm is working feverishly to locate the two "victims" that Politico "uncovered." Next, she will have a news conference where she will lambaste Herman Cain and those two women will become instant celebrities on the MSNBC circuit. Of course, in doing so she will have broken the terms of the agreement and have to pay a contempt fine, but who cares...they get to take out a conservative!!
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So the ugly old bitch ambulance chaser is on the prowl again. :fuelfire:
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Gloria Allred is nothing but a two-bit Barbara Boxer wanna be. She is the scum of the worst order and the reason modern day liberalism is such a joke.
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There was a non-disclosure agreement signed, and there would be legal ramifications for violating that, I believe. The cases were settled long ago and Allred would look very stupid for trying to dredge them up and open them up after all this time. From what I've heard so far it's a non-issue, but time will tell.
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Turns out that one of the women is going to talk. Her lawyer, Joel Bennet, is already screaming that Cain has broken the agreement by even talking about it. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
That's why conservatives are pissed. Cain had one of his biggest donor days yet.
(Coincidentally, I'm listening to Gloria on the radio now, KABC - Radio)
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Joel Bennet, is already screaming that Cain has broken the agreement by even talking about it.
What sense does that make? Politico broke the story and made sure it was plastered all over their website... what is he supposed to do?
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What sense does that make? Politico broke the story and made sure it was plastered all over their website... what is he supposed to do?
Cain has been very careful not to mention any names.
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No, this is not a news story. But I'm betting that Gloria Allred's law firm is working feverishly to locate the two "victims" that Politico "uncovered." Next, she will have a news conference where she will lambaste Herman Cain and those two women will become instant celebrities on the MSNBC circuit. Of course, in doing so she will have broken the terms of the agreement and have to pay a contempt fine, but who cares...they get to take out a conservative!!
I am willing to bet that the media is working on a deal to pay any fees for these women, if they blab.
I kind of hope they do, that way we can see what they claimed happened.
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Now, the below is interesting . . .
Former President of National Restaurant Association has Ties to the Mitt Romney Campaign
Tuesday, November 1, 2011
Based on a suggestion from a local blogger to look into political donors on the Board of Directors of the National Restaurant Association for potential ties to presidential campaigns, I have attempted to identify anyone privy to inside information about the National Restaurant Association who also has recent ties to any presidential campaign.
According to the October 2011 FEC report for ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT INC. a gentlemen named Steven C. Anderson gave $1,000.00 on July 14, 2011. FEC search function here.
Steven C. Anderson is the same gentlemen who took over the helm as Chief Executive Officer at the National Restaurant Association (after a brief intermission) upon Herman Cain's departure in 1999. As CEO it is highly likely he would have been privy to details of litigation and threats about litigation from the immediately previous tenure of Herman Cain.
There is little more than a coincidence between the support for Mitt Romney and the likelihood that Mr. Anderson knows the background of the sexual harassment threats. Nonetheless, watchers of this scandal endlessly pontificate about whether President Obama or a rival campaign is the driving force behind the bombshell story that appeared in the Politico on Sunday.
Reporters should follow-up with Mr. Anderson to discern his knowledge. At the least he likely knows the short list of people with inside knowledge about the sexual harassment allegations.
The rest is at:
http://northernvirginialawyer.blogspot.com/2011/11/former-president-of-national-restaurant.html?showComment=1320184749221&fb_source=message
Hmmm . . . a Romney operative was the president of the National Restaurant Association. Cain is ahead of Romney. Two plus two . . . (don't answer "potato," either--everyone should know that by now!)
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Now, the below is interesting . . .
The rest is at:
http://northernvirginialawyer.blogspot.com/2011/11/former-president-of-national-restaurant.html?showComment=1320184749221&fb_source=message
Hmmm . . . a Romney operative was the president of the National Restaurant Association. Cain is ahead of Romney. Two plus two . . . (don't answer "potato," either--everyone should know that by now!)
Elsewhere on this board I made a suggestion that the Romney campaign might be tied to this this.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/mitt_romneys_dirty_tricts/
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What ever happened to the queer that claimed to have had a romp with Obama... Oh yeah, now I remember, they settled it...Chicago style...he was murdered.
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There was a non-disclosure agreement signed, and there would be legal ramifications for violating that, I believe. The cases were settled long ago and Allred would look very stupid for trying to dredge them up and open them up after all this time. From what I've heard so far it's a non-issue, but time will tell.
Yeah but we saw how Jack Ryan's SEALED divorce records were made public ruining his career and allowing Obummer to become Illinois Senator.
With the Left, anything is possible with these miscreants.
:mad: :mad:
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GOP, I don't know whether to Hi-5 you or bitchslap you...
By Jen Heger,
Radar Legal Editor
A new woman alleging sexual harassment by presidential hopeful Herman Cain will break her silence at a news conference with her powerhouse attorney Gloria Allred Monday afternoon in New York City, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.
The embattled GOP nominee has admitted that several women who worked at the National Restaurant Association during his tenure as president of the organization received settlements. Politico has reported that the settlements were given because of sexual harassment allegations.
link (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/11/new-woman-alleging-sexually-harassment-herman-cain-will-go-public-monday)
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Go ahead and give me a bitch slap. I can take it.
Besides, this one was just too easy to pick. I actually had called Glo's office last week and got one of those "can't confirm or deny" routines, so I made my prediction then. Let me explain.
When the story broke out, I called Allred's office as a journalist from GOP Congress.org. When I got the front desk, I simply asked if Gloria had taken a client in the Herman Cain issue. Had they thought there was no merit, they would have simply put me through to a voicemail. The fact I got Allred's main assistant right away, the Tuesday (one full business day) after the Politico hit piece occurred and gave me the ccod statement, meant that indeed her office was actively trying to locate, secure, create legal protections, and negotiate a hefty sum for her client.
Allred knows how to play the drip, drip, drip game of sustained media release for maximum damage. She will get her money from the DNC slush fund laundered any different number of ways to pay for this obvious hit piece, just like she did for Meg Whitman's maid. Only this time, she's going against the Tea Party candidate whose approval among the ENTIRE GOP party, NOT just the conservative/Tea Party base, is close to 80%.
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I hi-5ed you instead.
The good news is that Gloria Allred is representing the victim; this'll turn out like the Duce Lacrosse case, I'm thinking.
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Followup:
I just called the office again and identified myself. I got through to Cheryl, one of Gloria's associate flunkies and the one I talked to last Tuesday. She asked me how in hell (yes, that was verbatim) that I knew about Allred's efforts, perhaps she was looking for a leak. I didn't tell her that it was quite obvious the way SHE HERSELF gave me the information by giving me the "can't confirm or deny" statement, but then again, she makes the big bucks, most of which comes from the laundered DNC slush fund (liberal donors).
In short, I'm on Allred's shit list. Oh well. :tongue:
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The good news is that Gloria Allred is representing the victim; this'll turn out like the Duce Lacrosse case, I'm thinking.
The problem is that the Duke Lacrosse case took months to finally get straight. Indeed, Allred is NOT looking for "justice" for her client. Her SINGULAR...let me repeat... ONLY job is to discredit Herman Cain so he is not the GOP nominee. Her payment is most probably coming from DNC-related sources. The payment will cover her fee, her "client's" fee (perhaps in the hundreds of thousands, or millions if there are legal liabilities involved), and any legal ramifications if there had been NDA's or whatnot.
Not sure if this "client" actually settled a complaint with the NRA, but it doesn't matter. Allred operates the media to smear the right, not the legal system to help her client.
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its on the blaze (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/fourth-accuser-says-cain-tried-to-grab-her-genitals-force-her-into-oral-sex/) now
"Bialek made the accusations alongside celebrity attorney Gloria Allred. Allred added that Bialek does not plan on filing a lawsuit."
so basically "we dont plan to file a lawsuit because it is a baseless accusation with zero factual credence, and we just wanted to hype this up a little in the media. kthxbai"
it'd be a grandslam homerun if breitbart's guys got to the bottom of this and released tidbits of an Allred/DNC scandal, gets the MSM to repeatedly deny it, then drops the full story of this lady to make all involved looked like nitwits.
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The problem is that the Duke Lacrosse case took months to finally get straight. Indeed, Allred is NOT looking for "justice" for her client. Her SINGULAR...let me repeat... ONLY job is to discredit Herman Cain so he is not the GOP nominee. Her payment is most probably coming from DNC-related sources. The payment will cover her fee, her "client's" fee (perhaps in the hundreds of thousands, or millions if there are legal liabilities involved), and any legal ramifications if there had been NDA's or whatnot.
Not sure if this "client" actually settled a complaint with the NRA, but it doesn't matter. Allred operates the media to smear the right, not the legal system to help her client.
Concur. One case I remember prominently since I was living in CA at the time was a guy in FV working for Hyundai (they have a pretty big office there--American HQ, IIRC) who was sent to Iraq and who lost his job while he was over there. Well, come to find out, the guy was already under investigation by Hyundai for "numerous instances of sexual harassment." That story dropped off the news cycle in about .0002 milliseconds.
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Love this comment from a poster after that Blaze story :lmao: :lmao:
And then, he unzipped his zipper, put his hand in his pants, and pulled out a pubic hair. I didn’t think that was unusual…….. but then he reached in the glove box, and pulled out a cigar. and I knew, I knew, immediately, what he wanted.
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Mr. Cain instead decided to try to provide her with his idea of a stimulus package," Allred said
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67768.html#ixzz1d3J0QiD3
:naughty: :naughty: Liking Mr. Cain more and more :lmao:
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Go ahead and give me a bitch slap. I can take it.
Besides, this one was just too easy to pick. I actually had called Glo's office last week and got one of those "can't confirm or deny" routines, so I made my prediction then. Let me explain.
When the story broke out, I called Allred's office as a journalist from GOP Congress.org. When I got the front desk, I simply asked if Gloria had taken a client in the Herman Cain issue. Had they thought there was no merit, they would have simply put me through to a voicemail. The fact I got Allred's main assistant right away, the Tuesday (one full business day) after the Politico hit piece occurred and gave me the ccod statement, meant that indeed her office was actively trying to locate, secure, create legal protections, and negotiate a hefty sum for her client.
Allred knows how to play the drip, drip, drip game of sustained media release for maximum damage. She will get her money from the DNC slush fund laundered any different number of ways to pay for this obvious hit piece, just like she did for Meg Whitman's maid. Only this time, she's going against the Tea Party candidate whose approval among the ENTIRE GOP party, NOT just the conservative/Tea Party base, is close to 80%.
Very nice job, GOP. There is no doubt in my mind that once there is a whiff of blood, the hyenas invariably start collecting. Allred is but another kind of hyena - a two-legged variety.
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Allred is but another kind of hyena - a two-legged variety.
but still in the genus canis
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It appears that the accuser is a Tea Party republican. Riiiiiiiiiight.......
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but still in the genus canis
Yup -- complete with the requisite teeth. I wonder if she occasionally gets fleas........
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It appears that the accuser is a Tea Party republican. Riiiiiiiiiight.......
A Tea Party Republican being repped by Gloria Allred would be like me searching for my a@@hole ex-husband on Match.com. Ain't buying it.
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Paging Jeb Eddy... please pick up the white courtesy phone in the lobby.
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Just to pick a couple of nits for the sake of accuracy, Hyenas aren't canis anything, though Allred might be; they're a completely different genus. And there won't be any lawsuit because all other factors aside, there is an insurmountable time limit problem with trying to file one now.
:popcorn:
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Just to pick a couple of nits for the sake of accuracy, Hyenas aren't canis anything, though Allred might be; they're a completely different genus. And there won't be any lawsuit because all other factors aside, there is an insurmountable time limit problem with trying to file one now.
:popcorn:
What kind of time limit do you mean? You mean it wouldn't come to trial before the election?
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No, Eupher, I mean what are commonly called 'Statute of limitations' issues (Or 'Limitations of actions' rules, as lawyers call them). In most states you must begin a tort suit, e.g. for battery such as unconsented touching, within two years (three in some states) of the incident involved.
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gotcha.
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It's just too good to fact check and is nothing but red meat for the MSM horde.
I saw ol Gloria and her chin wattle today in the online news reports.
Here's hoping Cain rakes in the donations again.
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Conveniently , it's a nice looking white women making the claims. That's guaranteed to get the racist elements fired up even more.
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Even if everything she says is true, it is not sexual harrasment. Wonder why she lost her job. Could it be because of incompetence. If you are a woman and you go meet a man that has upgraded your hotel room and he wines and dines you, you are very naive if you think he might not have a motive. Could be no nookey, no job but that is one hell of a strech and she can not prove it.
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I was going to write a moderate length post with regard to what happened with regard to Allred, but I can't shorten many elements. I will therefore write a complete article and post it as a separate thread. The bottom line was that this action by Allred was 100% political, and I will connect the dots with comprehensive clarity. Look for it by tomorrow morning, maybe a bit later tonight.
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Can't wait to read it GOP!!!
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Even if everything she says is true, it is not sexual harrasment. Wonder why she lost her job. Could it be because of incompetence. If you are a woman and you go meet a man that has upgraded your hotel room and he wines and dines you, you are very naive if you think he might not have a motive. Could be no nookey, no job but that is one hell of a strech and she can not prove it.
she was let go from her job at the Nat'l Rest Assc because she was lacking in her fundraising capabilities. I have a feeling that Herman told her he was unable to get her hired back on and she has held that grudge since then.
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And I don't give a shit if he did it. If she was that upset about it then she should have gone to the police right away, afterall I think grabbing someone's head and shoving it into your crotch is some kind of assault. She is just an attention whore.
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And I don't give a shit if he did it. If she was that upset about it then she should have gone to the police right away, afterall I think grabbing someone's head and shoving it into your crotch is some kind of assault. She is just an attention whore.
What the woman described on the podium wasn't "harrassment;" it was sexual assault. If it were true, she should have gone to the police. I ain't buying it for a second.
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(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd445/JansGraphix/friends.jpg)
Witness: Cain accuser hugged him during Tea Party meeting a month ago (http://www.suntimes.com/8592168-417/sneed-witness-says-cain-accuser-hugged-him-during-tea-party-meeting-a-month-ago.html)
The Cain Encounter ...
They hugged each other backstage in a full embrace like old friends.
She grabbed his arm and whispered in his left ear.
She kept talking as he bent to listen, and he kept saying “Uh, huh. Uh, huh.â€
Another tidbit for your piece GOP. Also as I understand it, none of these women got a settlement. They received severance. Slight difference I'd say.
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One of the morning radio hosts here is a lawyer and discussed this on his show. She was not working for the NRA at the time the incident she claimed happened. He also said her claim does not fall under what would normally be considered sexual harassment in a workplace.
http://gillreport.com/2011/11/details-about-cain-accuser-start-to-emerge/
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If that ain't a smoking gun, I don't know what is. To not having mentioned that Cain sexually assaulted her to her boyfriend? And the three of them go to an "afterparty" together? Seriously?
Lost a paternity suit?
Multiple job losses over the last 10-12 years?
Can this critter possibly spell the word 'CREDIBILITY?'
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Someone wake me when the inevitable Playboy issue hits the stands.
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Wait until you read this one.
Witness: Cain accuser hugged him during Tea Party meeting a month ago
By MICHAEL SNEED msneed@suntimes.com November 8, 2011 12:30AM
Updated: November 8, 2011 6:58AM
The Cain Encounter ...
They hugged each other backstage in a full embrace like old friends.
She grabbed his arm and whispered in his left ear.
She kept talking as he bent to listen, and he kept saying “Uh, huh. Uh, huh.â€
Huh?
The rest is here:
http://www.suntimes.com/8592168-417/sneed-witness-says-cain-accuser-hugged-him-during-tea-party-meeting-a-month-ago.html
Credibility? . . . She'z not got it . . . :fuelfire:
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Allred and her client were on CBS's Morning Show today....
No woman looks like a cheshire cat when basically telling she was sexually assaulted! This woman could hardly control her grin, her attempt at a sexy flirty eyelook from under her sweep of hair!!! She looked like an aging actress hoping to get a job!!
Allred pointed out the woman was a registered Republican, and when asked if she would considered voting for Cain if he got the nomination...she - very coyly - said she hadn't decided yet.
If I hadn't already decided she was a phony, her last statement with the attitude...clinched it.
I think Cain has a lot of people worried. While it might be Romney, who many think should get the nomination (why?) and Cain is steamrolling over him..I'm not so sure.
I think people checking in to who is doing this....need to be looking towards Obama's people. Cain is Obama's biggest threat!! He's the only one who will take the majority of the black vote away from Obama - which is his only hope of being reelected.
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The big difference between Cain and Obama and one that Cain may not be able to completely overcome with the black voter, and that is the approach to entitlements/government intervention.
Cain expects blacks to be responsible and accountable. I'm not sure that will go over well with many blacks who are all too comfortable with government handing out free shit.
Cain is certainly a threat to Obama and may, in fact, entice a fair number of black voters. But in the end, most blacks will vote Dem, just as they always have.
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The big difference between Cain and Obama and one that Cain may not be able to completely overcome with the black voter, and that is the approach to entitlements/government intervention.
Cain expects blacks to be responsible and accountable. I'm not sure that will go over well with many blacks who are all too comfortable with government handing out free shit.
Cain is certainly a threat to Obama and may, in fact, entice a fair number of black voters. But in the end, most blacks will vote Dem, just as they always have.
It don't think it would take a large percentage of blacks shifting their votes or deciding not to vote to cause the Dems to lose.
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It don't think it would take a large percentage of blacks shifting their votes or deciding not to vote to cause the Dems to lose.
Well, from what I've read recently, the liberal base isn't enough to keep Obama in office anyway - and that includes blacks.
The independent voter put Obama in office in '08 and that vote has shifted away. Obama is in serious trouble.
My basic point is that most blacks are going to continue to vote Dem, whether or not Cain gets the GOP nomination.
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I have finished my article about how the Democratic Smear Machine operates.
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,66448.0.html
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Well, from what I've read recently, the liberal base isn't enough to keep Obama in office anyway - and that includes blacks.
The independent voter put Obama in office in '08 and that vote has shifted away. Obama is in serious trouble.
My basic point is that most blacks are going to continue to vote Dem, whether or not Cain gets the GOP nomination.
The only way Cain or any other Republican could substantially increase their vote count with blacks is to tell them that we will give you more shit than the Democrats.
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The only way Cain or any other Republican could substantially increase their vote count with blacks is to tell them that we will give you more shit than the Democrats.
You think that most blacks are too far gone (enslaved or indoctrinated) on the democrat plantation to make any rational decisions for rugged individualism anymore?
Give me chains (security), rather than (risk) liberty?
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You think that most blacks are too far gone (enslaved or indoctrinated) on the democrat plantation to make any rational decisions for rugged individualism anymore?
Give me chains (security), rather than (risk) liberty?
I'm not sure if you asked me, but I'll respond.
Short answer is yes. I've seen ample evidence of that in my personal life.
Old habits die hard, and just because you have two blacks running against each other doesn't mean the guy who extols self-determination and accountability is going to trump the guy that says, "Don't worry - the government will take care of you. Vote for me."
The cultural shift from self-determination to dependency on the government is astonishingly complete in the black community.
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You think that most blacks are too far gone (enslaved or indoctrinated) on the democrat plantation to make any rational decisions for rugged individualism anymore?
Give me chains (security), rather than (risk) liberty?
Sad to say but the answer is yes.
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You think that most blacks are too far gone (enslaved or indoctrinated) on the democrat plantation to make any rational decisions for rugged individualism anymore?
Give me chains (security), rather than (risk) liberty?
Do a little searching on how blacks are STILL supporting Obama and how many think the country is going in the right direction.
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The solution is to win and establish AND MAINTAIN our principles over a period of time. Once individuals realize how much better off they can be by working, that's when the change will take place and race will become less of a factor.
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You think that most blacks are too far gone (enslaved or indoctrinated) on the democrat plantation to make any rational decisions for rugged individualism anymore?
Give me chains (security), rather than (risk) liberty?
You didn't ask me either, but I see this as the absolute truth with too few exceptions. A Democrat plan from decades past that's come to fruition. A few bones and some psychological warping has guaranteed the party a bloc of voters. The plan didn't evolve without some possibly unforeseen problems like how to get them to the polls, but 2008 found a few solutions to that.
If the next election was based entirely on the black vote Obama would crush Cain. Until there are more like Herman Cain the plantation will continue to exist and grow larger.
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Uh oh, this is certainly not good at all
for Sharon Bialek. (http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/16002149/investigator-herman-cain-innocent-of-sexual-advances)
Investigator: Herman Cain innocent of sexual advances
ATLANTA (CBS ATLANTA) -
Private investigator TJ Ward said presidential hopeful Herman Cain was not lying at a news conference on Tuesday in Phoenix.
Cain denied making any sexual actions towards Sharon Bialek and vowed to take a polygraph test if necessary to prove his innocence.
Cain has not taken a polygraph but Ward said he does have software that does something better.
Ward said the $15,000 software can detect lies in people's voices.
CBS Atlanta's Mike Paluska played Cain's speech for Ward into the software and watched as it analyzed Cain's every word.
If he is hiding something this thing would have spiked way down here," said Ward. "He is being truthful, totally truthful. He is a man with integrity and he talked directly about not knowing any incident he is accused of."
The software analyzes the stress level and other factors in your voice. During the speech, when Cain denied the claims, the lie detector read "low risk." According to Ward, that means Cain is telling the truth.
During the section of Bialek's news conference where she says, "He suddenly reached over put his hand on my leg under my skirt and reached for my genitals he also grabbed my head brought it towards his crotch."
During the analysis of that section the software said "high risk statement." Ward said that means she is not telling the truth about what happened.
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I'm not at all surprised by this, but thanks for posting it, HFB.
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Yeah, I heard Boortz talking about this today. Apparently, it's used a lot in, among other places, England for insurance fraud investigations. The success rate is so high that there's very few fraud cases over there precisely because of this.
This story should be just as big as this whole "scandal". Three guesses as to why it isn't, and the first two are free.