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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on October 31, 2011, 09:38:07 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=268x5064
Oh my.
It seems to be "agriculture night" in the DUmpster tonight, given the lack of other good material from Skins's island.
Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-21-11 03:57 AM
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Some gardening questions
I'm too poor to donate, so can't post in the Gardening Group, but I can't sleep for wondering about a few things.
Today I did a half-ass survey/harvest of my meager garden before the expected fist frost. I harvested about 8 pounds of sweet potatoes and a handful of purple potatoes, some flat-leaf parsley, a little dill, blah blah blah.
The sweet potatoes are the first I've managed to grow well and I was so happy to dig those fat babies out of the ground. This summer was perfect for them, but I also used actual plants rather than the slips they sell at the coop. What I'm wondering is, can I make my own slips? The vines have almost taken over the garden and latched into the earth with little slips all over. Do I pull those and put them in a cool place? Anyone made slips and over-wintered them?
Second question: I have a real tall "tipi" in the center of the garden just overgrown with a combo of scarlet runner beans and heavenly blue morning glory (which are just stunning but they just started flowering right before frost dang it!) There are beans all over the beanstalks, and I'm wondering about the secret to saving thsoe beans to plant next year. Should I let them dry on the vines, even if it frosts? How do I know if the beans are at the stage where the seed will germinate?
Anyhoo, still have lots of peppers out there, a little kale, oregano, basil. I hate first frost!
Hope all are well here.
In reference to the boldened comment above, in case one doesn't know this, my fellow alum Skins charges extra to primitives wanting access to certain forums on Skins's island.
He knows how to rake in the dough, Skins does.
msongs (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-21-11 04:06 AM
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2. if beans are turning dry/brown already pick em and store til spring. If still growing it may be too late if they are not mature yet.
Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-21-11 04:21 AM
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4. That's what worried me
I've saved beans before but they were dry pods. These are all green. So you think the frost will ruin them if I let them dry on the vine a bit longer?
A primitive then proceeds to buy a star for the novice gardening primitive, so that she may get into the "extra-admission-charge forums" on Skins's island.
Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-21-11 04:51 AM
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9. You are awesome!
As for lavender, mine are all fading, sad to say. They are so precious and I don't know how to keep them going.
The only time I had a great lavender bed was at my farm 20 miles from here. I dug up grass to plant them around a Double Delight rose and they took off like crazy. Then I traded that place for this one and here, every lavender has died.
They supposedly like dry, mediteranean-type conditions, but I put them with the rosemary and other herbs and they have all withered.
Southern Ontario - lucky you! I was raised not too far away in Upstate NY. Have often thought of getting out of the South and moving to Canada.
You should see my silly garden gate made out of branches and twigs to keep the neighbor's ponies out! And maybe this year I'll get around to making some cold frames out of some old windows.
XemaSab (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-21-11 04:38 AM
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8. GET RID OF THE MORNING GLORY!!!!
It will take over your WHOLE YARD!
Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-21-11 04:57 AM
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10. You made me laugh
Nothing - not even freaking lemon balm - will take over here. This soil here is pretty but I have to add lots of horse/chicken manure. The only thing that takes over is pokeweed, and me and a whole lot of six-foot-tall pokeweed plants have had a go this week. My arms are covered in scratches from the sawbriar vines that twined around them and you should have seen the purple stains all over from the dang berries! I've got piles of pokeweed everywhere to burn now.
I planted the Heavenly Blue morning glories last year on the same tipi (I have a weakness for true blue flowers) and along a fence and I had to replant this year because none of them reseeded. I've got four acres to play with, too, but not one came back up.
The multi-colored ones DO take over some of the cornfields off the mountain, but not up here.
era veteran (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-21-11 07:02 AM
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12. I had morning glories in a wildflower mix 15 years ago
I am still fighting it off. It chokes everything and grows well in a gravel driveway. I have a trumpet vine problem as well.
I do admire a plant that wants to live that bad.
Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Sat Oct-22-11 10:39 AM
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13. Yeah, I have heard horror stories from others which is why I laughed (in a good way XemaSAb!!!!) because for those whom Morning Glories have invaded, it's a reason to panic.
Not here, though, and I only plant the Heavenly Blue. The mixed color ones seem to be the invasive types, and I can understand why others would be loathe to even see the name "Morning GLory."
It's like if you told me you grew pokeweed (which some actually do - they're good salad greens when they're babies). I would be all "Oh NOES!!!!!!"
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My gosh...those that want to save the earth charge to post in the Gardening Group.
In this economy, really???
:fuelfire:
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I guess the DUmmie never heard of eating "Poke salad"? If it's not prepared properly, it can kill you.
I don't do blowfish either.
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I think it's disgraceful that $kimmer would charge to join the gardening group. This lady seems perfectly nice, and she's only trying to work the land, poor as she is. Skinner needs her last pennies in exchange for a little advice? For shame.
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I think it's disgraceful that $kimmer would charge to join the gardening group. This lady seems perfectly nice, and she's only trying to work the land, poor as she is. Skinner needs her last pennies in exchange for a little advice? For shame.
Yeah, the category for which there's an admission charge is called "DU Groups."
I can recall an instance where hippywife pleaded poverty, and wasn't going to be able to post in the cooking and baking forum any more, because she couldn't donate.....
::)
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Why not just join up with a gardening group or a cooking group in another corner of the internet, one that doesn't charge? I've gotten good gardening advice from perfect strangers, happily lending their expertise at no charge.
Or does the advice have to come from democrats only?
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Why not just join up with a gardening group or a cooking group in another corner of the internet, one that doesn't charge? I've gotten good gardening advice from perfect strangers, happily lending their expertise at no charge.
Or does the advice have to come from democrats only?
That's it, madam, that's exactly it.
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Why not just join up with a gardening group or a cooking group in another corner of the internet, one that doesn't charge? I've gotten good gardening advice from perfect strangers, happily lending their expertise at no charge.
Or does the advice have to come from democrats only?
Nearly all of us repukes just hire gardeners.
Grubbing around in a garden is as ridiculous as mowing your own lawn.
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-21-11 03:57 AM
Original message
Some gardening questions
I'm too poor to donate, so can't post in the Gardening Group
You have to pay to post in the gardening group??22?
I don't think Skimmer is that hard up for cash.
Then again, who knows.
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You have to pay to post in the gardening group??22?
I don't think Skimmer is that hard up for cash.
Then again, who knows.
Yep, one has to donate.
No lie.
Otherwise, one can read, but not post and comment.
Ditto for the cooking and baking forum, the do-it-yourself forum, the household hints forum, the pets forum, &c., &c., &c.
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Maybe that's why they're so slow.
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Yep, one has to donate.
No lie.
Otherwise, one can read, but not post and comment.
Ditto for the cooking and baking forum, the do-it-yourself forum, the household hints forum, the pets forum, &c., &c., &c.
You can literally find hundreds of free forums discussing those and only those topics without the liberal lies thrown in on the internet.
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Maybe that's why they're so slow.
Actually, when Mrs. Alfred Packer, the hippywife primitive, was still around, the cooking and baking forum was the most active, the most lively, of the "small" forums.
But alas hippyhubby Wild Bill won't let her hang around there any more.
I dunno what's up with that, only that that's the way it is.
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Yep, one has to donate.
No lie.
Otherwise, one can read, but not post and comment.
Ditto for the cooking and baking forum, the do-it-yourself forum, the household hints forum, the pets forum, &c., &c., &c.
I don't know whether I should be surprised or not.
Kinda drift towards..not.
Definately a dog cocks it head, sort of thing.
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But alas hippyhubby Wild Bill won't let her hang around there any more.
I dunno what's up with that, only that that's the way it is.
Even though she's made a couple of brief cameo appearances, I think there's still a good chance she's been
turned into a nice stew by her cannibal husband.
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Even though she's made a couple of brief cameo appearances, I think there's still a good chance she's been
turned into a nice stew by her cannibal husband.
Yeah.
And in her memory--I usually don't tip my hand, but I'm making an exception in this case--when nominations for the Top Primitives start 23 days hence, I'll be nominating the late Mrs. Alfred Packer for the special "Lifetime Achievement Award," also known as the "Willie."
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Yeah, the category for which there's an admission charge is called "DU Groups."
I can recall an instance where hippywife pleaded poverty, and wasn't going to be able to post in the cooking and baking forum any more, because she couldn't donate.....
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Single payer for all DU forums NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
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Yeah.
And in her memory--I usually don't tip my hand, but I'm making an exception in this case--when nominations for the Top Primitives start 23 days hence, I'll be nominating the late Mrs. Alfred Packer for the special "Lifetime Achievement Award," also known as the "Willie."
Well, she hardly did enough this year for the normal Top DUmmy competition, so that special award is probably her appropriate category.
Another departed DUmbass, though, the wallduded earwig afficionado cali, belongs in the regular competition due to the spectacular nature of her passing.