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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on May 01, 2008, 01:13:11 PM
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Why are primitives in blue states complaining about taxes?
I mean, what did the primitives expect, when electing Democrats and liberals?
lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 07:29 PM
Original message
Do you think I should pay a TAX on a Big Mac???
Can a Big Mac tax save New Jersey hospitals?
New Jersey Gov. Jon S. Corzine said Tuesday he's open to using a "sin tax" to help provide funding for struggling hospitals.
His comments came after Amy Mansue, of Children's Specialized Hospital, suggested a fast food tax during a meeting between Corzine and hospital leaders on proposed state hospital and health care aid cuts.
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D90BPL603....
I notice through all this crap
yanno
tax cigarettes
tax fast food
hey!! Hello!!
god forbid they tax their alcohol any more than they have to
this sucks
I haven't bought fast food in 2 years
but I don't think it should be taxed......
tax your wine sherry, beer
just my opinion
unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 07:32 PM
Response to Original message
2. I'm not crazy about the idea BUT
poor diet lands a lot of people in the hospital so I guess it's at least poetic and appropriate.
lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. I understand this
but sometimes this is all anyone can afford
with the dollar menus and all
not to mention being on the run to keep up so we can afford to live
a vicious cycle
lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #2
11. PLEASE
don't go there
to many variables
I know people that eat there because it's FAST
but take care of themselves.....
next
unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu May-01-08 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #11
25. no, I get what you're saying and as someone who has been there
am quite sympathetic as well to the monetary issue.
lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 07:33 PM
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3. Corzine is really struggling to find some money...
...there already are cigarette and alcohol taxes.
Fast Food - wow. I don't eat it and haven't for years and years so I wouldn't be affected at all. There is a McDonalds around the corner and the drive-thru actually blocks traffic at certain times of the day so I'm sure it would a money-maker for the state.
I have no idea how I feel about this.
lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #3
10. Cigs are taxed every other day
they are 6 bucks a pack (or more)
should be 3
no I do not smoke
Alcohol
I do not remember the last time I read it was taxed..
I do drink
I'll bet the lost primitive drinks.....a lot.
lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 07:47 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. I bought a pack of cigs in December...
...walked in the store and asked for the cheapest pack: $7.50!!!!
I was shocked - talked to the guy for 10 minutes about the prices. When I smoked $3.00 a pack was a lot.
Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 07:34 PM
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4. it's a tax on the poor
Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #4
9. Agreed.
MADem (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 07:36 PM
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6. That's one of those "latte liberal" ideas--taking small pleasures away from the common man...
I can't see it passing. If they're going to do that, well, tax the shit out of a steak dinner, a salad, and rolls--same damn ingredients, just that the steak dinner has better (and more) meat, and less soy filler and fatty binders.
Perfect storm to get the working class Dems AND the "don't regulate me" right to join hands. Just because some idiot PROPOSES it, doesn't mean it is law.
Cigarette taxes go over 'ok.' Fast food taxes, though? That's a bit too much.
lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 07:47 PM
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13. Do not count on it!!!!
Did you know that AC Casinos are going TOTALLY smoke free!!!???
That passed but I GUARANTEE it will not last
to much money will be lost
to much "other" revenue....
wait
Corzine is rich and people kiss his ass
I wondered who the Republican governor of New Jersey is.
MADem (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. Smoking isn't as popular as it used to be. Once upon a time, most adults smoked.
Not the case anymore.
lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. Question
where are they going to get the money that they tax cigarettes with? when no one buys them here anymore??
Have you or anyone else thought about that...
they are taxed ALOT
so you will be taxed ALOT on something you buy
and whine about it
just saying its a pattern...
hold on that carrot your eating might cost $2 each
remember for the want of a nail the war was lost
MADem (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #16
21. They'll move on to gambling, and when that plays out, they'll legalize pot and tax the crap out of it.
Well, given the excess windfall profits of the marijuana industry, why not?
1981 = bag of marijuana, $10. 2008 = same bag of marijuana, $160.
lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. You have not been in a casino lately then
it's going to hurt big time
MADem (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #19
22. Well, not lately. But I have been down in PR and Bahamas...
And not that many people were smoking.
Wow.
In this Bush economy, the worst economy since Ankor Wat was constructed, a primitive can afford a luxury vacation to Puerto Rico and the Bahamas? What's up with that?
Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 07:38 PM
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7. Hey Gorn
I say tax just the republicans, you have to show your ID, and if you are registered Republican
you get taxed .........
Well, some of us think that's generally what happens anyway.
Republicans and conservatives earn money; Democrats, liberals, and primitives spend money.
KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 08:29 PM
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17. Mom's trips to the shore will never be the same
they always, always stop at the Cheesequake service area on the Garden State. For one thing, that's as far as she can go from the city without taking a leak (we joke that her initials PPF stand for "Pam Pees Frequently"!). But then, there's the obligatory fast food stop, though she's often satisfied with the Starbucks there.
Tax Mom's Cheesequake stops? Think of the children moms!!
RedCappedBandit (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-30-08 11:04 PM
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24. Why is it ok to tax cigarettes, wine and beer but not fast food?
You know, this is the first time I've gone through a whole bonfire involving the lost primitive.
What with the subway cat being temporarily housed in one of those rooms with soft walls, one supposes the lost primitive is her stand-in, her substitute.
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Clovis Sangrail
4. it's a tax on the poor
Wow, someone actually got it right. No doubt they're repeating what they heard on conservative radio, Fox News, or they're a mole because there's no way a lib would ever view any tax as being a bad idea.
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Corzine must be missing the money he made at Goldman Sachs, wouldn't you think?
That's where he might wind up if this goes through.
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When will the DUmbasses learn that every tax is a tax on the poor.......the lower middle class.................the middle class.....the upper middle class................the rich?
I know.....
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You voted for this shit, DUmmies. Now deal with it.
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frank, I liked your idea of taxing a bag of pot. maybe that would shake them out of their stupor.
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When will the DUmbasses learn that every tax is a tax on the poor.......the lower middle class.................the middle class.....the upper middle class................the rich?
I know.....
You don't see it? liberals believe that ONLY The Rich should be taxed. And who are The Rich? Anyone who makes more money than ME!
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frank, I liked your idea of taxing a bag of pot. maybe that would shake them out of their stupor.
Oh they'd just find other ways of getting high.
Cindie