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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Revolution on October 20, 2011, 08:03:26 PM
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 04:28 PM
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Check it out: Bill O'Reilly Book Burned By Soldiers In Afghanistan
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/381564/BILL-OREILLY-BOOK.jpg)
A group of soldiers recently burned a box of Bill O'Reilly's books that had been sent to them in Afghanistan.
An anonymous soldier going by the name of Everqueer posted pictures of the burning on their Tumblr page. The book in question was "Pinheads and Patriots," which O'Reilly has sent to Afghanistan through a charity group.
"Some jerk sent us two boxes of this awful book (SPOILER ALERT: George Washington - Patriot; George Soros - Pinhead) instead of anything soldiers at a remote outpost in Afghanistan might need, like, say, food or soap," the soldier said. "Just burned the whole lot of them on my Commander's orders."
more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/20/bill-oreilly-b...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2155037
At first, I thought this was a bouncy, but it seems this story checks out.
http://everqueer.tumblr.com/
So um, I have a few things I could say, but I'm just going to say this: What kind of soldier names himself "everqueer" on a social networking site?
I guess I'll just let the honorable people serving currently, and the vets from CC comment on this now...
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At first, I thought this was a bouncy, but it seems this story checks out.
http://everqueer.tumblr.com/
So um, I have a few things I could say, but I'm just going to say this: What kind of soldier names himself "everqueer" on a social networking site?
I guess I'll just let the honorable people serving currently, and the vets from CC comment on this now...
A queer soldier. :-)
DADT has been repealed so anything goes now.
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Well I know, but....
*shivers*
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DUmmys in favor of book burnings....who'd of thunk it....and the DUmbasses call us Nazis. :whatever:
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"Some jerk sent us two boxes of this awful book (SPOILER ALERT: George Washington - Patriot; George Soros - Pinhead) instead of anything soldiers at a remote outpost in Afghanistan might need, like, say, food or soap," the soldier said. "Just burned the whole lot of them on my Commander's orders."
I would love to know what the "Commander's" name is.
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In true DUmmie fashion though, that isn't revealed. And not for nothing, and no disrespect toward any other soldier out there, but I think this soldier who posted on flckr is truly a DUmmie.
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Being a Soldier who actually was at a fairly remote base in Afghanistan, I wouldn't be too thrilled about finding two boxes of Blowhard O'Reilly's books in our latest mail shipment either, since that's pounds/cubic feet taken up in a helicopter that could have been used for supplies (food/ammo/TP etc). I doubt I would have burned them (maybe if it was extremely cold and needed the fire for heat) and I definitely wouldn't attach a political message to it by taking a picture and posting it on a social networking site.
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Yeh. Burning them is kinda pointless, after all, even if some think they're a total waste, some others would want 'em. A box is kind of overkill, normally the free shit is left for whoever wants it to pick it up, and drop it back off when he's done, it's not like you can roll around a personal library with you on an outpost, or even a major FOB. CO (OIC more likely) must've been a Democrat.
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Yeh. Burning them is kinda pointless, after all, even if some think they're a total waste, some others would want 'em. A box is kind of overkill, normally the free shit is left for whoever wants it to pick it up, and drop it back off when he's done, it's not like you can roll around a personal library with you on an outpost, or even a major FOB. CO (OIC more likely) must've been a Democrat.
I would say that most likely, if it really happened, that the contained mention of Jesus Christ, Christians, Jews or something negetive about MOO-hammed and the Moose-limbs. And keep in mind one only has to say BOO to insult a damn Moose-limb.
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Being a Soldier who actually was at a fairly remote base in Afghanistan, I wouldn't be too thrilled about finding two boxes of Blowhard O'Reilly's books in our latest mail shipment either, since that's pounds/cubic feet taken up in a helicopter that could have been used for supplies (food/ammo/TP etc). I doubt I would have burned them (maybe if it was extremely cold and needed the fire for heat) and I definitely wouldn't attach a political message to it by taking a picture and posting it on a social networking site.
On the tumblr site there was a bit of an explanation on how they were taking up valuable space, so burning them was the most expedient thing to do.
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You're not supposed to listen to them. It's a political statement! The tide is turning. Bill O'Reilley has toasty legs, or whatever.
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Yeh. Burning them is kinda pointless, after all, even if some think they're a total waste, some others would want 'em. A box is kind of overkill, normally the free shit is left for whoever wants it to pick it up, and drop it back off when he's done, it's not like you can roll around a personal library with you on an outpost, or even a major FOB. CO (OIC more likely) must've been a Democrat.
When I first heard of it, my guess as a professional civilian was that this was stuff soldiers really didn't want or need (because they needed other things more important, that didn't get sent). No reflection on Bill O'Reilly; if they'd been the Bostonian Drunkard's "best-selling" books, they'd met the same fate.
And it apparently gets cold in Afghanistan.
I could very well see that some sort of small fire was thought handy, and since these things were paper, hey, that'd do.
It's my understanding that soldiers out in the field oftentimes get stuff they don't want or need, and resent that they have to deal with it.
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It's my understanding that soldiers out in the field oftentimes get stuff they don't want or need, and resent that they have to deal with it.
Absolutely, however they are even less inclined to do the additional work to systematically dispose of it instead of just leaving it sit for the next guys to deal with.
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Wasn't the military forced to burn a bunch of Bibles earlier this year or last year in Afghanistan? That would have made the DUmmies happier than having O'Reilly's book burned.
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"Some jerk sent us two boxes of this awful book (SPOILER ALERT: George Washington - Patriot; George Soros - Pinhead) instead of anything soldiers at a remote outpost in Afghanistan might need, like, say, food or soap," the soldier said. "Just burned the whole lot of them on my Commander's orders."
I was Navy so I'm not too familiar with Army jargon but remote outpost sounds kind of fishy to my ears. Sounds to me like something some DUmmy would say that learned what they know about the Army from watching F Troop reruns. Also, my Commander instead of my CO? Does that pass the smell test for the Army people? I was deployed to the Kuwait Navy Base for the GWOT, not a remote outpost but not a big base either. But there was a tent with piles of stuff like free toothpaste, soap, shaving cream, deodorant, and yes books too. And there was a base library--in truth, a musty tent full of books. But I can't believe that they would burn those books instead of setting them out somewhere and telling people to help themselves, I don't care how small the base is. It just doesn't add up to me.
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Actually, Delmar, the Army lingo stuff doesn't indicate much one way or the other. Afghanistan has some pretty remote outposts, platoon size and even smaller ("Patrol bases" mostly). "Commander" is actually a lot more common term in the Army than CO is, though Commander normally means the unit leader from the company on up, while the lieutenant in charge of a platoon in the company is called a 'Platoon Leader.' Of course on a patrol base with a lieutenant in charge, he would be to CO, the base commander, or the OIC, depending on what he felt like calling himself and usage in that unit or area, which varies.
I agree with you on the freebies, though, what you describe for KNB is pretty much the common practice.
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Thanks DAT. When the story starts with a soldier with the handle Everqueer, I can't help it I'm just a little skeptical.
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Maybe it was cold outside. :shrug:
I'd love to be able to burn a bunch of stuff in a barrel without some touchy-feely Greenpeace nerd pointing a finger at me.
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I don't agree with the burning part but I'm not upset at O'Reilly's books being disposed of unread. He is no Conservative or friend of conservatives. He's against most everything I'm for and vise versa.
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Is it true orders are logged? If that is the case, and since the gerneral order is not classified (with exception of locale) isn't it public record? If so, FOI the pentagon for that order. I like to know who the "commander" is.
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This is from politico:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/1011/Soldiers_burn_OReilly_books.html
The motivation behind the order to burn them was not political. As mentioned in the original post, we are in an extraordinarily remote location. We don’t have a post office here, so sending them back wasn’t an option. Extra space is scarce and alternatives that a few mentioned, like recycling, are nonexistent.
Though the blogger is obviously not a fan of O’Reilly, he said he at least “saved one for the bookshelf.â€
Just an FYI for the regressives out there who think conservatives just love everyone on Fox, I'm not a fan of O'Reilly, I'll watch his show once in awhile if he has someone or something interesting on, but he's a fence sitter who changes his tune and consistently makes it seem that conservatives and regressives are alike when we're not, he tries to kiss-up to the middle and it annoys the heck out of me. I also wasn't a fan at all of Glenn Beck. So you see, we don't love everyone who's on Fox contrary to what you believe.
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Is it true orders are logged? If that is the case, and since the gerneral order is not classified (with exception of locale) isn't it public record? If so, FOI the pentagon for that order. I like to know who the "commander" is.
No, orders are generally not logged.
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This is from politico:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/1011/Soldiers_burn_OReilly_books.html
Just an FYI for the regressives out there who think conservatives just love everyone on Fox, I'm not a fan of O'Reilly, I'll watch his show once in awhile if he has someone or something interesting on, but he's a fence sitter who changes his tune and consistently makes it seem that conservatives and regressives are alike when we're not, he tries to kiss-up to the middle and it annoys the heck out of me. I also wasn't a fan at all of Glenn Beck. So you see, we don't love everyone who's on Fox contrary to what you believe.
Agreed. I'm also glad you found the statement. In other words, the DUmbshits were just trying to stir it up, and pat each other on the back... :whatever:
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The funny thing about burning anything is that in the end the one that will benefit in the long run is the Bill O. I'm sure the dixie chicks and the beatles laughed all the way to the bank when everyone bought thier recordings over again when things cooled down. You know a lot of comics were burned as well helping to make rare editions worth even more.
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Just had a though: NOBODY in that thread that I have seen condemned any of the soldiers (and you know how they LOVE to hate on our soldiers) for contributing to GlObUl WaRmInG!111!
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This is from politico:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/1011/Soldiers_burn_OReilly_books.html
Just an FYI for the regressives out there who think conservatives just love everyone on Fox, I'm not a fan of O'Reilly, I'll watch his show once in awhile if he has someone or something interesting on, but he's a fence sitter who changes his tune and consistently makes it seem that conservatives and regressives are alike when we're not, he tries to kiss-up to the middle and it annoys the heck out of me. I also wasn't a fan at all of Glenn Beck. So you see, we don't love everyone who's on Fox contrary to what you believe.
Agreed......I find O"Reilly a pompus asshole, who sits on the fence to keep his ratings up......he has no real political position that is fixed, he's just interested in attracting both conservatives and liberals to his show, and the only manner in which to accomplish this is to never make either side look foolish.......it's a waste of bandwidth.
On the book issue, perhaps I'm a minority here, but don't you think that it's grossly arrogant to ship cases of ones own books to the troops in a war zone? A few copies for major base libraries, perhaps, but boxes of them to a remote outpost????? The only explanation is that they were unsold "overruns", and by shipping them to the troops he took a tax write-off.......
I'd have to agree with the soldier's comments, if you want to send something to such an area, please send something that they actually need.........I suspect with a staff like O'Reilly's, it wouldn't be that hard to find out what's appropriate.
doc
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Agreed......I find O"Reilly a pompus asshole, who sits on the fence to keep his ratings up......he has no real political position that is fixed, he's just interested in attracting both conservatives and liberals to his show, and the only manner in which to accomplish this is to never make either side look foolish.......it's a waste of bandwidth.
On the book issue, perhaps I'm a minority here, but don't you think that it's grossly arrogant to ship cases of ones own books to the troops in a war zone? A few copies for major base libraries, perhaps, but boxes of them to a remote outpost????? The only explanation is that they were unsold "overruns", and by shipping them to the troops he took a tax write-off.......
I'd have to agree with the soldier's comments, if you want to send something to such an area, please send something that they actually need.........I suspect with a staff like O'Reilly's, it wouldn't be that hard to find out what's appropriate.
doc
Ah, but you're forgetting BOR's ego... with an ego like his, you determine that sending the troops your books is PRECISELY what they need...
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Agreed......I find O"Reilly a pompus asshole, who sits on the fence to keep his ratings up......he has no real political position that is fixed, he's just interested in attracting both conservatives and liberals to his show, and the only manner in which to accomplish this is to never make either side look foolish.......it's a waste of bandwidth.
Completely agree. I really don't care if they burned the damn' things or not, if nobody wanted them, it's as good as any other solution.
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On the book issue, perhaps I'm a minority here, but don't you think that it's grossly arrogant to ship cases of ones own books to the troops in a war zone? A few copies for major base libraries, perhaps, but boxes of them to a remote outpost????? The only explanation is that they were unsold "overruns", and by shipping them to the troops he took a tax write-off.......
I'd have to agree with the soldier's comments, if you want to send something to such an area, please send something that they actually need.........I suspect with a staff like O'Reilly's, it wouldn't be that hard to find out what's appropriate.
doc
Maybe someone else knows the answer, but I thought a few years ago with every book sold Bill sent a book to the troops? I know a certain percentage of everything sold gets donated somehow to the troops.
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Maybe someone else knows the answer, but I thought a few years ago with every book sold Bill sent a book to the troops? I know a certain percentage of everything sold gets donated somehow to the troops.
Perhaps.....however, I'd posit that a better way to support the troops would be to contribute a portion of his proceeds to the Wounded Warrior Project, or a similar cause.
Logistically, shipping cases of books to a forward outpost wastes fuel, space, and manpower that can be used to provide them with essentials........I'm no expert on military matters, but my common sense tells me that this is just dumb......
doc
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Perhaps.....however, I'd posit that a better way to support the troops would be to contribute a portion of his proceeds to the Wounded Warrior Project, or a similar cause.
Logistically, shipping cases of books to a forward outpost wastes fuel, space, and manpower that can be used to provide them with essentials........I'm no expert on military matters, but my common sense tells me that this is just dumb......
doc
I think it's silly to send a book, send them treats like candy, things that remind them of home, or necessities.
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Perhaps.....however, I'd posit that a better way to support the troops would be to contribute a portion of his proceeds to the Wounded Warrior Project, or a similar cause.
Logistically, shipping cases of books to a forward outpost wastes fuel, space, and manpower that can be used to provide them with essentials........I'm no expert on military matters, but my common sense tells me that this is just dumb......
doc
Which leads us back to BOR's ego... He thinks it's essential that troops have his wisdom on hand.
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I'd like to see Bill O'Reilly go head-to-head-to-head with nadin and Olbermann in a personality contest.