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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: JakeStyle on October 20, 2011, 04:18:25 PM
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Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2154224#2154354)
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-20-11 02:54 PM
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Here s the problem with kadaffi's death
Yes...brutal dictator...
He was loaded alive into an ambulance
Yes bombs cause quite a bit of concussive force, ergo internal bleeding.
He might have died from internal bleeding, but f he was executed it raises all kinds of issues.
If he died from injuries, that s war.
Regardless he did die the martyr's death he wanted.
And no, I shan't join in any celebration...as to showing bodies...has become sop since the two sons of Hussein were killed and it is disturbing at some level. (I could cite chapter/verse of war conventions but whatever)
I hoe this tells Assad find a place to go or that might be his future too.
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-20-11 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. That's not the point
Killing somebody, regardless of who, inside an ambulance raise all kinds of hackles.
It's pretty clear from the video that he was not killed inside an ambulance and it sure didn't look like there were any Red Cross representatives at the scene
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-20-11 03:14 PM
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That's not the point
But whatever...since there will be no prosecution we should also forget insert war crime here...like say guernica...there was no prosecution so why put it into the historic record? Or for that matter Abu grain? That is the logic.
The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-20-11 03:19 PM
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29. Like Any Other Form Of Energy, Ma'am, Outrage Exists In Finite Quantities
It is better to keep a budget, and direct it where it is most appropriate, and might do the most good, just as it is better to direct electric current to a hospital rather than to the sprinklng system of a gold course, should the supply of power be restricted. My outrage budget is exhausted by this vale of tears long before the summary execution, if any, of a dictator is reached.
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-20-11 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. Whatever
I don't expect you to understand it...
Disagree with nadin, you're stupid
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-20-11 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. As a red cross worker I care
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 03:08 PM by nadinbrzezinski
Something people do not understand: neutrality
For the record, American CIVILIAN ambulances don't have that protection, so I get it why people don't get it.
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-20-11 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #28
30. As a former humanitarian worker
Who went into plenty of shootouts I got a problem with violating neutrality. Don't expect you to understand why...this is why I will not join in the celebration. Go on and celebrate. Go on.
Her 'lil sidekick malaise is pretty much her only backup
malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-20-11 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #30
40. Well said
I will not join in the celebrations either
It goes on and on
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Who went into plenty of shootouts I got a problem with violating neutrality. Don't expect you to understand why...this is why I will not join in the celebration. Go on and celebrate. Go on.
Went into shootouts? Sounds like she's pulling their legs over there. Add bullet dodger to her resume.
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Went into shootouts? Sounds like she's pulling their legs over there. Add bullet dodger to her resume.
Nitwit Nadine was probably with Hillary in Kosovo corkscrewing in to avoid AAA fire and then dodging sniper fire while shaking hands with the local youths.
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By George, nutcase nadin is just back from the shithole south of Texas, and she's got her condescending arrogance back in mid-season form already!
She's putting those DUmpmonkeys back in their inferior, insignificant places, where they belong, restoring order to the DUmp.
And any DUmbass who thought he could steal some DOTY votes, know-it-all nadin has nipped that misconception in the bud:
A thread worthy of a champion!
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. Whatever
I don't expect you to understand it...
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #57
60. It's not the death but where
I prefer a trial but IF he was executed in an ambulance this raises neutrality issues, which is way too complex and alien for most Americans.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #48
50. Violating neutrality is rip roaringly and hysterically funny
Yup, it is hysterical, which is what an execution would be
Too complex I guess
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #72
74. Having been in a rig that received automatic fire I know that
But in your mind that's ok since there is precedent.
Okie dokie
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #76
81. News says he was loaded into ambulance and was still alive
I don't truly expect you to understand it.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. Alas not inside an ambulance
This technicality is beyond most people I guess
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #79
I get it why AMERICANS don't get it...
I don't expect you to get it...sadly I don't.
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Wow, being a condensending knowit all who is dumb as a bag of hair is bad enough but being a condensending BITCH is the line.
Go hump a belt sander Nads.
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Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2154224#2154354)
It's pretty clear from the video that he was not killed inside an ambulance and it sure didn't look like there were any Red Cross representatives at the scene
Disagree with nadin, you're stupid
Her 'lil sidekick malaise is pretty much her only backup
It goes on and on
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov-1S8Xxd94[/youtube]
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I can't stand that bitch, and her narcissism. How can even the other primitives put up with that?
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He was shot in the head and in center mass you stupid gash! I am surprised he made it to the ambulance at all.
Kiss kiss,
An actual EMT
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-20-11 02:54 PM
Original message
Here s the problem with kadaffi's death
Yes...brutal dictator...
He was loaded alive into an ambulance
Yes bombs cause quite a bit of concussive force, ergo internal bleeding.
He might have died from internal bleeding, but f he was executed it raises all kinds of issues.
If he died from injuries, that s war.
Regardless he did die the martyr's death he wanted.
And no, I shan't join in any celebration...as to showing bodies...has become sop since the two sons of Hussein were killed and it is disturbing at some level. (I could cite chapter/verse of war conventions but whatever)
I hoe this tells Assad find a place to go or that might be his future too.
I saw the bolded and thought that nadin's computer didn't have an apostrophe key. Then I noticed the underlined words where an apostrophe was used. Based on the evidence I would assume that she has a special keyboard that has both a regular apostrophe key AND an invisible apostrophe key. That nadin is on the cutting edge of technology.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-20-11 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. As a red cross worker I care
Oh, mercy maude! Does anyone care to update her resume, or is this already on it? I can't keep up.
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New addition to the Nads resume'.
Firearms and ballistic expert. :-)
FarCenter (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 03:04 PM
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9 mm is used in both machine pistols and in handguns
He was in a culvert under a road? In Vietnam, the guys who went down into the Viet Cong tunnels used handguns.
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 03:05 PM
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16. And some machine guns, uzi and mp5 are not machine pistols
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 03:07 PM by nadinbrzezinski
They are SMGs.
Yo, nads!!
What was the German MP-40 often referred as??
Stupid ignorant scrunt.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. As I said if he died from internal injuries
That is not an extra judicial execution...if he died from a 9mm as reported earlier, that is. It would mean in the anbulance.
Pickup trucks are now "aNbulances".
Good call, nads.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Well bombs are pretty nasty
Good call. Even DUmpmonkeys are aware of that.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. As a former red cross worker, no they don't
Every time a round goes through...
Oh bullshit.
Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #39
64. Yikes! Was that yours? Where were you a medic?
:thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright: No, sonny, she's a damn liar.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #72
74. Having been in a rig that received automatic fire I know that
But in your mind that's ok since there is precedent.
Okie dokie
Automatic fire to this ignorant scrunt, is somebody else flicking the Bic.
Down toward the end, this little gem.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #121
122. Wow ! Amazing...
Missed the point by a whole galaxy! Not that this be shocking or shit.
I luuuvvveee me fans!!!!
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #121
125. Don't misquote Hunter Thompson. It's not cool, even done twice. nt
:lmao: :rotf:
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And no, I shan't join in any celebration...as to showing bodies...has become sop since the two sons of Hussein were killed and it is disturbing at some level. (I could cite chapter/verse of war conventions but whatever)
Looks like we've got international lawyer to add to the ever impressive C.V.
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I like the subtle jab the magisterial primitive made:
The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 03:19 PM
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29. Like Any Other Form Of Energy, Ma'am, Outrage Exists In Finite Quantities
It is better to keep a budget, and direct it where it is most appropriate, and might do the most good, just as it is better to direct electric current to a hospital rather than to the sprinklng system of a gold course, should the supply of power be restricted. My outrage budget is exhausted by this vale of tears long before the summary execution, if any, of a dictator is reached.
I'll bet he did that on purpose; that's something I'd do.
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I like the subtle jab the magisterial primitive made:
I'll bet he did that on purpose; that's something I'd do.
His ridiculous "Sir" "Ma'am" act usually irritates me intensely - but when directed against Little Miss Condescension it works beautifully.
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Looks like we've got international lawyer to add to the ever impressive C.V.
Looks like you're correct Aristotelian.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #92
99. Really
Joe tell me how any times did you get into one of these?
More times than I can think in ten years.
Did you ever take a graduate course in international law?
Did you teach driving principles?
I respect the magistrate, but on this one I did all those things.
And yes, I am an absolutist when it comes to the Geneva Convention, not because they are respected many a times...but because that attitude of who cares don't help. You see a young radio operator was killed in Culiacan recently by really bad guys. They violated that principle of neutrality. But you see, people in the states don't get this. The last ambulance service the ARC ran was in the 1920s. There is really no connection, and if we ever go into a hot civil war I expect ambulances to get Shot up pretty badly. See them posts for a clue why.
Oh that includes hospitals too by the way.
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He was shot in the head and in center mass you stupid gash! I am surprised he made it to the ambulance at all.
Kiss kiss,
An actual EMT
Yeah, no kidding. That Makarov round to the temple was game over.
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To borrow a phrase, sweet root beer drinking Baby Jesus on a tricycle. Is there anything this woman HASN'T done? I'm thinking they picked the wrong person for those Dos Equis commercials.
In the words of nadagoogle, "Stay thirsty, my friends."
Coach, don't bother with a DOTY 2011 competition. Just give her the damn trophy now.
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To borrow a phrase, sweet root beer drinking Baby Jesus on a tricycle. Is there anything this woman HASN'T done? I'm thinking they picked the wrong person for those Dos Equis commercials.
In the words of nadagoogle, "Stay thirsty, my friends."
Coach, don't bother with a DOTY 2011 competition. Just give her the damn trophy now.
Well, I'm only one vote, but I've said since mid-June that the big competition this year will be for the number two spot on the Top Ten DUmmies of 2011.
Others may disagree, or wish it were otherwise, but that's what I'm seeing.
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I like the subtle jab the magisterial primitive made:
I'll bet he did that on purpose; that's something I'd do.
Well, I 'll give Nads something for that thread and it's to bring the good Magistrate out from hiding. He's had a case of the hips at that place for a long time.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 02:54 PM
And no, I shan't join in any celebration...as to showing bodies...has become sop since the two sons of Hussein were killed and it is disturbing at some level. (I could cite chapter/verse of war conventions but whatever)
Actually, I like to think back to an earlier event.
(http://lumq.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/che_10.jpg)
Don't recognize him, Nads? How about now:
(http://www.leninimports.com/che_guevara_biography_4.gif)
:fuelfire:
As for Qaddafi, F*** Qaddafi.
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 03:05 PM
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16. And some machine guns, uzi and mp5 are not machine pistols
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 03:07 PM by nadinbrzezinski
They are SMGs.
Actually they're not. They're pistol caliber carbines.
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Is that Che's teddy bear?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-20-11 03:14 PM
Original message
That's not the point
But whatever...since there will be no prosecution we should also forget insert war crime here...like say guernica...there was no prosecution so why put it into the historic record? Or for that matter Abu grain? That is the logic.
Uh oh! Abused plant alert!!! Cruelly threshing it to death or using a form of torture by stone grinding?
Cindie
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Uh oh! Abused plant alert!!! Cruelly threshing it to death or using a form of torture by stone grinding?
Cindie
Holey cow. :stoner:
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 03:05 PM
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16. And some machine guns, uzi and mp5 are not machine pistols
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 03:07 PM by nadinbrzezinski
They are SMGs.
Ironically, that's exactly what that "MP" means in the original German nomenclature which H&K uses, you ignorant twit. Usage varies from country to country on the terms, of course, and also to what extent they refer to a foreign weapon by its native name rather than translating it.
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I wonder why I never discerned this before, but anyway, I swear nadin sucks on the bottle 24/7/365.
One wonders why her husband doesn't make her go to an alcoholism-treatment place.
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We never hear about him. Maybe he avoids her.
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Shouldn't the primitives attitude towards Gaddafi being killed be along the lines of "Why did we help overthrow the gov't of Libya? They were no threat to the USA." At least that was their attitude about Iraq and Saddam. So what changed?
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I wonder why I never discerned this before, but anyway, I swear nadin sucks on the bottle 24/7/365.
One wonders why her husband doesn't make her go to an alcoholism-treatment place.
Maybe when the bottle's empty, it's his turn.
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We never hear about him. Maybe he avoids her.
Are we sure she even has a husbad?
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I wonder why I never discerned this before, but anyway, I swear nadin sucks on the bottle 24/7/365.
One wonders why her husband doesn't make her go to an alcoholism-treatment place.
Retired Navy. Most know how to tip a few. Maybe he's an enabler.
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nadin, the stupid scrunt:
The last ambulance service the ARC ran was in the 1920s. There is really no connection, and if we ever go into a hot civil war I expect ambulances to get Shot up pretty badly.
Dumb bitch never reads the news in the US, apparently. Fire trucks and EMT's have come under fire in some cities right here. It usually happens in areas that are highly populated with Obama's base voters.
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Retired Navy. Most know how to tip a few. Maybe he's an enabler.
But he seems like a nice guy.
By the way, as you know, the primitives make their self-portraits by painting their picture with not paint, but words.
nadin used to strike me as a mid-40s a-little-bit-chunky dark-haired woman with Hebraic features; no Miss America, but far from a Helen Thomas too.
Now her self-portrait's starting to look more and more like Bella Abzug drunk.
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Is that Che's teddy bear?
:lmao:
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I wonder why I never discerned this before, but anyway, I swear nadin sucks on the bottle 24/7/365.
One wonders why her husband doesn't make her go to an alcoholism-treatment place.
Wasn't there some Canadian DUmmie who wrote long, unintelligible alcohol laden screeds too? Wonder what happened to her?
Cindie
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Wasn't there some Canadian DUmmie who wrote long, unintelligible alcohol laden screeds too? Wonder what happened to her?
Cindie
nancegreggs...she's probably in a gutter somewhere.
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Wasn't there some Canadian DUmmie who wrote long, unintelligible alcohol laden screeds too? Wonder what happened to her?
Cindie
Wasn't Xulter or something like that who seemed to have posted on DU while having an apparent alcohol related hissy-fit in an airport or on a plane?
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nancegreggs...she's probably in a gutter somewhere.
I've seen references to her, every so often.
She started swimming away from Skins's island after she didn't have George Bush to kick around any more.
I've seen that she's at the "progressive independent" site that's even more vile than Skins's island, but never checked to see what she's been drunkenly ranting about there.
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Wasn't Xulter or something like that who seemed to have posted on DU while having an apparent alcohol related hissy-fit in an airport or on a plane?
Great memory, sir.
Yeah, that was xultar, and that particular alcoholic rant of hers was posted in a thread, the whole thing, here in the DUmpster somewhere, just yesterday (Friday). I forget where, though (it' a thread here where she's not the topic). It's a classic.
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nancegreggs...she's probably in a gutter somewhere.
Yep, that's who I was thinking of. Nads is a cross between nancegreggs, TiT and Navin Johnson (The Jerk) with a side of Tinky Winky Teletubbie.
Cindie
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Yep, that's who I was thinking of. Nads is a cross between nancegreggs, TiT and Navin Johnson (The Jerk) with a side of Tinky Winky Teletubbie.
You know, I kind of tend to differ, madam.
I think nadin's pure greenbriar.
Not in the way greenbriar invented things, but in the way greenbriar reacted to skepticism.
This is why nadin's on my short list of primitives most likely to crack soon.
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nancegreggs got chased out of the DUmp because she misspelled a word. She was ridiculed to no end. She was gone for several months and someone made a "please come back" campfire. She returned, but only for a short spell.
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nancegreggs got chased out of the DUmp because she misspelled a word. She was ridiculed to no end.
You got to be kidding me.
She was gone for several months and someone made a "please come back" campfire. She returned, but only for a short spell.
Now, that part, I remember; she left, someone asked her to come back, she came back for a short time, and then left again.
But I had no idea why she'd left in the first place.
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Yep, that's who I was thinking of. Nads is a cross between nancegreggs, TiT and Navin Johnson (The Jerk) with a side of Tinky Winky Teletubbie.
She's been everywhere, done everything, and done it incredibly well.
Reminds me of Forrest Gump.
Except Forrest wasn't a condescending, supercilious ass.
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You got to be kidding me.
Now, that part, I remember; she left, someone asked her to come back, she came back for a short time, and then left again.
But I had no idea why she'd left in the first place.
I might be wrong about the spelling error, maybe. Things get a little fuzzy over time. It was either a spelling error or she used a word out of context.
I have spent the last hour or so looking for the reason of her DUmise. Is searching her archived campfires, many of the posts or sub threads have been deleted. Just about every one was locked. There were some who made excuses for her grammatical mistake. One opined that English wasn't her native language. Hence the reason for the mistake.
This is the only link I can find referencing the mistake:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=433&topic_id=146405
CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-22-10 06:15 PM
Response to Reply #5
13. that wasn't a lovely rant
and anyone including her can make a mistake.
but being criticized for it seems to have led her to leave. which i think kind of sucks because most of us stay and have been treated far worse than she has.
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You know, I kind of tend to differ, madam.
I think nadin's pure greenbriar.
Greenbriar plus Professor Irwin Corey, and minus the humor, maybe.