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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: CC27 on October 15, 2011, 12:41:23 PM
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Oct-15-11 09:34 AM
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Saturday Morning Challenge: Name the last purely altruistic US military action
Many here see our current adventitious insertion of troops into Uganada as humane and altruistic.
Name the last time we did something for purely altruistic reasons.
Projecting again there stinky man?
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People simply do not understand what 'altruism' means.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Oct-15-11 09:34 AM
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Saturday Morning Challenge: Name the last purely altruistic US military action
Many here see our current adventitious insertion of troops into Uganada as humane and altruistic.
Name the last time we did something for purely altruistic reasons.
Happens all the time, Stinky-poo. If you weren't so lazy, you might've tried looking up the list of authorized actions for award of the Humanitarian Service Medal, but there are many military assistance and civil affairs missions every year that never get recognized for that award.
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Happens all the time, Stinky-poo. If you weren't so lazy, you might tried looking up the list of authorized actions for award of the Humanitarian Service Medal, but there are many military assistance and civil affairs missions every year that never get recognized for that award.
I suspect that exercise would be far too complex for their limited cognitive ability.......however, I suppose they have forgotten:
1.) Haiti (several times)
2.) The tsunami in SE Asia
3.) The earthquake in Japan
And then, of course to illustrate the sheer folly of such activities, we have:
4.) Somalia
Just to apply a broad brush to it.......
doc
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A couple of points:
First of all, I'm not sure "pure" altruism is achievable outside an individual act or that of a relatively small group. An organization with the size and complexity of a military force cannot accomplish anything out of "pure" altruism. In even the most benign actions there is always someone who benefits, from the owner of the company that makes munitions or other military supplies down to the cashier at the base PX. However, there are many altruistic acts within the action itself. The soldier who shares his rations with a poor family, the unit that stands and fights to prevent a massacre of innocent civilians when it could retreat and avoid casualties, the pilot who exposes himself to greater danger in order to minimize collateral damage. All of those and more are examples of altruism that occur in war.
Secondly, whoever said that a humanitarian or protective missions have to be 100% pure altruism? As the DUmmies are so fond of saying, "We can't police the world." We have limited resources and it makes perfect practical and moral sense to allocate those resources in ways that protect both the interests of the subject country and those of the U.S. populace. That could mean anything as basic as requiring agreements that the country stay on friendly terms and not to allow terrorist elements to set up camp there to trade agreements that allow us to help them develop their natural resources in a mutually advantageous way. As long as that nation is left with a democratic system that lets the people choose their leaders and how to proceed with future relations with us it could not be considered imperialism. Why would we expend our national blood and treasure helping a country that is, could turn into, or supports those who are, our sworn enemy?
Those countries already receive plenty of moral support from individuals like one finds at DU.
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Every time the blood of our troops is spilled it's altruistic. Really, DUmmies should not be permitted to procreate; it's against the laws of nature.
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I consider putting your life at risk to waste terrorists and pirates to be pretty altruistic.
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When has stinkbait or any other member of the island of psyhcopathic misfits ever did anything alturistic?
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You mom's house.
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Name the last time we did something for purely altruistic reasons
Somolia, 1991.
What do I win?
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Somolia, 1991.
What do I win?
Don't hold your breath. Primitives rarely award prizes, and I suspect the ones they do award... well, none of us really want them. :-)
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Oct-15-11 09:34 AM
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Saturday Morning Challenge: Name the last purely altruistic US military action
Many here see our current adventitious insertion of troops into Uganada as humane and altruistic.
Name the last time we did something for purely altruistic reasons.
How does he explain the Clinton years then?
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The entire continent of Africa isn't worth the life of a single American soldier or Marine.
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Name the last thing a liberal has done something that's purely altruistic, dude.
Ball's in your court.
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Somolia, 1991.
What do I win?
A stinky bozo button?
:-)
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Well, only God can be purely altruistic.
We humans can be somewhat altruistic, but not perfectly altruistic.
So I'm going through history here.
War of 1812--to preserve freedom of the seas; a pretty altruistic motive.
Mexican War--to keep Texas from being oppressed by Mexico; a pretty altruistic motive.
Spanish-American War--to liberate the oppressed Cubans and Filipinos; a pretty altruistic motive.
World War I--to make the world safe for democracy; a pretty altruistic motive.
World War II--to liberate the oppressed in Europe and Asia; a pretty altruistic motive.
Korean War--to expel the socialist invaders from South Korea; a pretty altruistic motive.
Vietnam War--to expel the socialist invaders from North Vietnam; a pretty altruistic motive.
Gulf War--to liberate Kuwait from a genocidal homocidal maniac; a pretty altruistic motive.
And the current wars for the liberation of Afghanistan and Iraq speak for themselves.
Now, these weren't purely altruistic motives, maybe only circa 80-99% altruistic, but that's about the best one's going to get from imperfect human individuals and human society.
And they weren't all successful--the war for the liberation of Vietnam being the prime example--but who is it who interferes with America's obligation to "bear any burden, pay any price," so that others may enjoy the blessing and fruits of liberty and freedom?
I wonder if the primitives remember who said that.
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Somolia, 1991.
What do I win?
A stinky bozo button?
:-)
Ah ummmm.... No thanks. :mad:
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but who is it who interferes with America's obligation to "bear any burden, pay any price," so that others may enjoy the blessing and fruits of liberty and freedom?
I wonder if the primitives remember who said that.
How about some hints.
Did he have a red faced drunken brother that wanted to rob others and give it to others in exchange for votes for himself?
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How about some hints.
Did he have a red faced drunken brother that wanted to rob others and give it to others in exchange for votes for himself?
It's funny, how the primitives are always quoting John Kennedy, excepting for two quotes.
The other one of course having to ask not what the taxpayers can do for one, but ask what one can do for the taxpayers.
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Ah ummmm.... No thanks. :mad:
Don't blame ya there!!! You never know where that button has been.
:tongue:
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What's so great about altruism anyway? Altruism has a long and bloody history. I'm not sure it is a good thing.