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Title: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: Freeper on October 04, 2011, 04:59:19 PM
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Oct-04-11 04:48 PM
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How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
   
the original Tea Party.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/10/03/333925/top... /

1.) The Original Boston Tea Party Was A Civil Disobedience Action Against A Private Corporation. In 1773, agitators blocked the importation of tea by East India Trading Company ships across the country. In Boston harbor, a band of protesters led by Samuel Adams boarded the corporation’s ships and dumped the tea into the harbor. No East India Trading Company employees were harmed, but the destruction of the company’s tea is estimated to be worth up to $2 million in today’s money. The Occupy Wall Street protests have targeted big banks like Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, as well as multinational corporations like GE with sit-ins and peaceful rallies.

2.) The Original Boston Tea Party Feared That Corporate Greed Would Destroy America. As Professor Benjamin Carp has argued, colonists perceived the East India Trading Company as a “fearsome monopolistic company that was going to rob them blind and pave the way maybe for their enslavement.” A popular pamphlet called The Alarm agitated for a revolt against the East India Trading Company by warning that the British corporation would devastate America just as it had devastated South Asian colonies: “Their Conduct in Asia, for some Years past, has given simple Proof, how little they regard the Laws of Nations, the Rights, Liberties, or Lives of Men. <...> And these not being sufficient to glut their Avarice, they have, by the most unparalleled Barbarities, Extortions, and Monopolies, stripped the miserable Inhabitants of their Property, and reduced whole Provinces to Indigence and Ruin.”

3.) The Original Boston Tea Party Believed Government Necessary To Protect Against Corporate Excess. Smithsonian historian Barbara Smith has noted that Samuel Adams believed that oppression could occur when governments are too weak. As Adams explained in a Boston newspaper, government should exist “to protect the people and promote their prosperity.” Patriots behind the Tea Party revolt believed “rough economic equality was necessary to maintaining liberty,” says Smith. Occupy Wall Street protesters demand a country that invests in education, infrastructure, and jobs.

4.) The Original Boston Tea Party Was Sparked By A Corporate Tax Cut For A British Corporation. The Tea Act, a law by the British Parliament exempting tea imported by the East India Trading Company from taxes and allowing the corporation to directly ship its tea to the colonies for sale, is credited with setting off the Boston Tea Party. The law was perceived as an effort by the British to bailout the East India Trading Company by shutting off competition from American shippers. George R.T. Hewes, one of the patriots who boarded the East India Trading Company ships and dumped the tea, told a biographer that the East India Trading Company had twisted the laws so “it was no longer the small vessels of private merchants, who went to vend tea for their own account in the ports of the colonies, but, on the contrary, ships of an enormous burthen, that transported immense quantities of this commodity.” Occupy Wall Street demands the end of corporate tax loopholes as well as the enactment of higher taxes on billionaires and millionaires.

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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Oct-04-11 04:51 PM
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1. So in other words, not at all like the tea party.

Yep the Tea party folks bathe, have jobs, and don't trash the places they visit.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Oct-04-11 04:56 PM
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2. Right. They are the present day Tories.

Comparing us to Tories now? How does that work exactly? If anyone is comparable to the Tories it has to be the left, they are the ones who want to live under the crown, not in a free society.


Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: Skul on October 04, 2011, 05:58:38 PM
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Oct-04-11 04:48 PM
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How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
   
the original Tea Party.
>snip<
There are people involved.  That's it. No other comparison.

T.E.A. folks wish to preserve the country for which it is/was.
You assholes wish to remake it into a socialist paradise.
Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: Texacon on October 04, 2011, 06:02:11 PM
They fear the TEA party. 

KC
Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: miskie on October 04, 2011, 06:06:50 PM
The Tea Party wasn't protesting the tea companies, but the anticompetitive taxes and tariffs imposed by the British crown on such things.
Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: BEG on October 04, 2011, 06:11:04 PM
Man DUmmies have bagger envy.
Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: USA4ME on October 04, 2011, 06:11:53 PM
Trying to tie the Boston Tea Party to some type of anti-corporate lesson has got to be one of the worst abuses of American history I seen being used by the left.  While the act involved the East India Company, the Tea Party was about an unfair government regulations; namely taxation without representation.  It seems libs believe they can rewrite history so that it has the colonists protesting corporations instead of the British crown (the gov't).  They are in for a rude awakening.

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Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: miskie on October 04, 2011, 06:16:48 PM
Trying to tie the Boston Tea Party to some type of anti-corporate lesson has got to be one of the worst abuses of American history I seen being used by the left.  While the act involved the East India Company, the Tea Party was about an unfair government regulations; namely taxation without representation.  It seems libs believe they can rewrite history so that it has the colonists protesting corporations instead of the British crown (the gov't).  They are in for a rude awakening.

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They have been Desperately trying to duplicate or hobble the TEA Party since Scott Brown won. Now it seems they are simply trying to steal and rewrite the message.
Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: NHSparky on October 04, 2011, 06:22:59 PM
May your chains rest lightly upon you, DUmmies.
Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: JohnnyReb on October 04, 2011, 06:28:56 PM
DUmmie is smart...we should crown him ...:hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on October 04, 2011, 07:03:41 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2055180

Yep the Tea party folks bathe, have jobs, and don't trash the places they visit.

Comparing us to Tories now? How does that work exactly? If anyone is comparable to the Tories it has to be the left, they are the ones who want to live under the crown, not in a free society.




Why are the Founders always dead rich white guys, until the Left wants to spin history.
Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: BEG on October 04, 2011, 08:16:20 PM
Why are the Founders always dead rich white guys, until the Left wants to spin history.

They do the same thing with Jesus, they ridicule him until they want to claim Jesus was a liberal.
Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: Vagabond on October 04, 2011, 09:26:28 PM
Trying to tie the Boston Tea Party to some type of anti-corporate lesson has got to be one of the worst abuses of American history I seen being used by the left.  While the act involved the East India Company, the Tea Party was about an unfair government regulations; namely taxation without representation.  It seems libs believe they can rewrite history so that it has the colonists protesting corporations instead of the British crown (the gov't).  They are in for a rude awakening.

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As Mark Levin comments, without the governments power, the corporations have no power. 

The British were making the business climate of America favourable to their crony corporation.  The East India company had no authority to enforce those regulations without Parliament's ability to pass laws and the King's troops to enforce them.  Some smelly hippy in NYC in 2011 demanding further government intrusion and manipulation to "fix" prior government intrusion and manipulation has exactly nothing to do with the current T.E.A. party or the Boston Tea Party.
Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: NHSparky on October 04, 2011, 10:51:26 PM
As Mark Levin comments, without the governments power, the corporations have no power. 

The British were making the business climate of America favourable to their crony corporation.  The East India company had no authority to enforce those regulations without Parliament's ability to pass laws and the King's troops to enforce them.  Some smelly hippy in NYC in 2011 demanding further government intrusion and manipulation to "fix" prior government intrusion and manipulation has exactly nothing to do with the current T.E.A. party or the Boston Tea Party.

Oh, now quit harshing their mellow, dude.
Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on October 05, 2011, 09:13:15 AM
The East India Company was a private corporation like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were completely independent, sink-or-swim private sector financial ventures.

 :lmao:

You know you're reading something crazy when it starts off with a completely FUBAR historical preamble.
Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: Wineslob on October 05, 2011, 10:04:41 AM
DAT, 
//thinkprogress.   that's all I need to see to know it's going to be FUBAR.
Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: Odin's Hand on October 05, 2011, 10:10:34 AM
Yeah, I guess the DUmmies have never heard of the "Great Seal of the Realm" when commissioning business expeditions and ventures.  ::)
Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: Chris_ on October 06, 2011, 07:06:54 PM
Tea Party (2009)
Attendance: About 5,000 (http://www.bobkrumm.com/blog/?p=2247)

Whatever the hell this is (2011)
Attendance: About 500 (http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=DN&Date=20111006&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=110060803&Ref=PH)


Who would you rather have in your neighborhood?
Title: Re: How Occupy Wall Street is like the Tea Party
Post by: Rebel on October 06, 2011, 07:39:27 PM
To Lurking DUmbasses:


The Tea Party, which is patterned after the Boston Tea Party, is about wanting to keep more of your earnings, limiting the big, overreaching government, and protesting high taxation. YOU fools want to see even MORE government and higher taxes.

You jackleg f'n MOHrons aren't anything LIKE the Tea party.