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Current Events => Archives => Politics => Election 2008 => Topic started by: Wretched Excess on April 30, 2008, 07:38:47 AM
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father figure. interesting.
I always suspected that he only joined that church in the first place to get his
street cred up in the african american community, and thus make him politically
viable in his district. but now it's (a) going to be hard to separate himself from
this lunatic (although the entire MSM seems willing to let this story drop this
morning after his "I denounce" comments yesterday), and (b) this guy doesn't
sound like he's going to go away anytime soon.
so, the lose-lose scenario continues.
REV-ENGE IS SWEET FOR 'BETRAYED' PASTOR
ALBANY - The Rev. Jeremiah Wright would be happy to see Barack Obama's presidential campaign derailed because the pastor is fuming that his former congregant has "betrayed" their 20-year relationship,
The Post has learned. "After 20 years of loving Barack like he was a member of his own family, for Jeremiah to see Barack saying over and over that he didn't know about Jeremiah's views during those years, that he wasn't familiar with what Jeremiah had said, that he may have missed church on this day or that and didn't hear what Jeremiah said, this is seen by Jeremiah as nonsense and betrayal," said the source, who has deep roots in Wright's Chicago community and is familiar with his thinking on the matter.
"Jeremiah is trying to defend his congregation and the work of his ministry by saying what he is saying now," the source added.
"Jeremiah doesn't care if he derails Obama's candidacy or not . . . He knows what he's doing. Obviously, he's not a dumb man. He knows he's not helping."
The source spoke yesterday about Wright's motivation for thrusting himself back into the news, the day after the pastor appeared at the National Press Club on Monday and embarrassed Obama by accusing the United States of terrorism.
Wright has said the reason he has begun granting interviews and making public appearances now is that he wants to defend black churches.
But the source said the preacher's motivation is much more personal.
The source noted that the roots of Wright's disillusionment with Obama began last year after the Illinois senator unexpectedly yanked him from participating in the public announcement of his presidential campaign.
"That's why Jeremiah revealed . . . that he had actually been at the [announcement] hotel and prayed privately with the Obama family before the official declaration," the source told The Post.
"Rev. Wright, as well as other senior members of his church, believe that Obama has betrayed over 20 years of their supposed friendship."
Obama further angered Wright by trying to distance himself from the pastor ever since videos were made public earlier this year of the preacher alleging that America brought 9/11 upon itself and that people should say "God damn America," not "God bless America."
The source added, "After 20 years of loving Barack like he is one of their own, after he was embraced by this congregation as a brother in Christ, after his pastor was a father figure to him and gave him credibility in a city he had not grown up in and in a black community that was suspect of someone from Hawaii and Harvard, he thanks him by not allowing him to speak publicly at his announcement last year?
"A lot of people in the church believe they were there for this man when no one else was, and a lot of people don't believe it any more when Obama claims he loves the man who did so much for him," the source added.
Link (http://m.nypost.com/ms/p/nyp/nyp/view.m?pid=23930&storyid=108791)
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You know I am the last person on earth to use tinfoil for anything other than footwear and the occasional condom, but I have to say this Wright/Obama pimple coming to such a dramatic head just reeks of orchestration, collusion, coordination, and dishonesty.
The course of events is just too pat. The dragon bellowed and roared and Sir Obama has cut off its head. It is almost like a fairytale.
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You know I am the last person on earth to use tinfoil for anything other than footwear and the occasional condom, but I have to say this Wright/Obama pimple coming to such a dramatic head just reeks of orchestration, collusion, coordination, and dishonesty.
The course of events is just too pat. The dragon bellowed and roared and Sir Obama has cut off its head. It is almost like a fairytale.
yep. it looked a lot like a "sister soulja moment", didn't it? my cynicism pains me deeply.
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You know I am the last person on earth to use tinfoil for anything other than footwear and the occasional condom, but I have to say this Wright/Obama pimple coming to such a dramatic head just reeks of orchestration, collusion, coordination, and dishonesty.
The course of events is just too pat. The dragon bellowed and roared and Sir Obama has cut off its head. It is almost like a fairytale.
yep. it looked a lot like a "sister soulja moment", didn't it? my cynicism pains me deeply.
Sis'ta Souljah is Juneequia Cleaver compared to the Wright Hand of God.
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You know I am the last person on earth to use tinfoil for anything other than footwear and the occasional condom, but I have to say this Wright/Obama pimple coming to such a dramatic head just reeks of orchestration, collusion, coordination, and dishonesty.
The course of events is just too pat. The dragon bellowed and roared and Sir Obama has cut off its head. It is almost like a fairytale.
yep. it looked a lot like a "sister soulja moment", didn't it? my cynicism pains me deeply.
Sis'ta Souljah is Juneequia Cleaver compared to the Wright Hand of God.
I am getting tangled up in a swirl of negative logic here; if this denouncee (wright) is more reprehensible than the last (soulja), does that make the denouncement itself more or less significant politically?
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You know I am the last person on earth to use tinfoil for anything other than footwear and the occasional condom, but I have to say this Wright/Obama pimple coming to such a dramatic head just reeks of orchestration, collusion, coordination, and dishonesty.
The course of events is just too pat. The dragon bellowed and roared and Sir Obama has cut off its head. It is almost like a fairytale.
yep. it looked a lot like a "sister soulja moment", didn't it? my cynicism pains me deeply.
Sis'ta Souljah is Juneequia Cleaver compared to the Wright Hand of God.
I am getting tangled up in a swirl of negative logic here; if this denouncee (wright) is more reprehensible than the last (soulja), does that make the denouncement itself more or less significant politically?
Escape your random bounds. I was speaking about the characters. Souljah just wanted blacks to kill whites instead of each other. Wright wants to rid the earth of white people. There is extreme and then there is extreme.
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You know I am the last person on earth to use tinfoil for anything other than footwear and the occasional condom, but I have to say this Wright/Obama pimple coming to such a dramatic head just reeks of orchestration, collusion, coordination, and dishonesty.
The course of events is just too pat. The dragon bellowed and roared and Sir Obama has cut off its head. It is almost like a fairytale.
yep. it looked a lot like a "sister soulja moment", didn't it? my cynicism pains me deeply.
Sis'ta Souljah is Juneequia Cleaver compared to the Wright Hand of God.
I am getting tangled up in a swirl of negative logic here; if this denouncee (wright) is more reprehensible than the last (soulja), does that make the denouncement itself more or less significant politically?
Escape your random bounds. I was speaking about the characters. Souljah just wanted blacks to kill whites instead of each other. Wright wants to rid the earth of white people. There is extreme and then there is extreme.
I like my random bounds. :-) it's a presidential election year; I view what I had for lunch yesterday in terms of it's political significance (or lack thereof). :hyper: :-)
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I love how Obama is "outraged" and said he was "denouncing" the Reverend. Yeah, that solves everything Barackstar! I guess 20 years sitting in that pew was fine but 21 years was not? Oy.
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I love how Obama is "outraged" and said he was "denouncing" the Reverend. Yeah, that solves everything Barackstar! I guess 20 years sitting in that pew was fine but 21 years was not? Oy.
yeah, it simply isn't conceivable that he never heard any of wright's lunacy. he has only said that he never heard it while "in the pews". that sounds slightly clintonian. are we to believe that they never discussed this sort of thing in any other setting? privately?
I don't buy it. never have.
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I love how Obama is "outraged" and said he was "denouncing" the Reverend. Yeah, that solves everything Barackstar! I guess 20 years sitting in that pew was fine but 21 years was not? Oy.
The simpatico between them, when his constituancy were also parishioners, was more than acceptable for an Illinois Senator. Fortunately, the majority of this nation doesn't ascribe to "Rev." Wright's ideals.
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I look at it as a story line ripped from the WWE. They're still going out for a beer together after the show.
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It's a little too late Obama. You had that chance 20 years ago.
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I love how Obama is "outraged" and said he was "denouncing" the Reverend. Yeah, that solves everything Barackstar! I guess 20 years sitting in that pew was fine but 21 years was not? Oy.
there maybe another angle to this ... Obama didnt really sit in those pews for 20 years. he may have indeed been a member, and had those early relationships; but he may not have physically been in that church for who knows how long.
but he did use the church to catapult his political career and give his 'hometown' street cred a boost. but he didnt know what Wright was saying, and now he's been publically embarassed for lying about it all.
i think Wright should just keep it up.. he's been wronged! :-)
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^he certainly used the Reverend when he wanted to break into Chicago politics. I think the good Rev. is getting back at him :-)