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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: megimoo on October 04, 2011, 08:22:23 AM

Title: China Calls For War in South China Sea ?
Post by: megimoo on October 04, 2011, 08:22:23 AM

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The lead article in the Chinese Communist Party newspaper Global Times Tuesday carried the headline "The time to use force has arrived in the South China Sea; Let's wage wars on the Philippines and Vietnam to prevent more wars." "The South China Sea is the best place for China...
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"The South China Sea is the best place for China to wage wars," the article said. "Of the more than 1,000 oil rigs there, none belongs to China; of the four airfields in the Spratly Islands, none belongs to China; once a war is declared, the South China Sea will be a sea of fire [with burning oil rigs]. Who will suffer the most from a war? Once a war starts there, the Western oil companies will flee the area, who will suffer the most?"

The article went on to argue that "the wars should be focused on striking the Philippines and Vietnam, the two noisiest troublemakers, to achieve the effect of killing one chicken to scare the monkeys."

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Analysis/Walker/2011/10/03/Walkers-World-War-in-South-China-Sea/UPI-23491317637140/

Title: Re: China Calls For War in South China Sea ?
Post by: ironhorsedriver on October 04, 2011, 08:24:47 AM

Does the US still have any agreements with the PI? Not that it would matter with the Obama Administration.

Title: Re: China Calls For War in South China Sea ?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on October 04, 2011, 12:33:44 PM

The last time they decided to screw with the Vietnamese, they didn't come out so well on the deal, which is why none of that stuff in the Spratly Islands is Chinese. 

Title: Re: China Calls For War in South China Sea ?
Post by: vesta111 on October 05, 2011, 11:32:22 AM

Quote from: megimoo on October 04, 2011, 08:22:23 AM

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The lead article in the Chinese Communist Party newspaper Global Times Tuesday carried the headline "The time to use force has arrived in the South China Sea; Let's wage wars on the Philippines and Vietnam to prevent more wars." "The South China Sea is the best place for China...
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"The South China Sea is the best place for China to wage wars," the article said. "Of the more than 1,000 oil rigs there, none belongs to China; of the four airfields in the Spratly Islands, none belongs to China; once a war is declared, the South China Sea will be a sea of fire [with burning oil rigs]. Who will suffer the most from a war? Once a war starts there, the Western oil companies will flee the area, who will suffer the most?"

The article went on to argue that "the wars should be focused on striking the Philippines and Vietnam, the two noisiest troublemakers, to achieve the effect of killing one chicken to scare the monkeys."

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Analysis/Walker/2011/10/03/Walkers-World-War-in-South-China-Sea/UPI-23491317637140/

Asking for it, the Asians are from lessons learned in WW2 not sitting ducks.----No way will the tactics of the Japanese ever happen again.[24]

Title: Re: China Calls For War in South China Sea ?
Post by: Airwolf on October 05, 2011, 01:24:44 PM

I wonder just how they think they are going to be able to project enough power to do both and keep their units supplied once the  U.S. Navy and Air Force go in? I also wouldn't go fracking around in the PI either . Their Army has plenty of experience with fighting terrorist and guerrillas in their islands.

Title: Re: China Calls For War in South China Sea ?
Post by: thundley4 on October 05, 2011, 01:47:36 PM

Quote from: Airwolf on October 05, 2011, 01:24:44 PM

I wonder just how they think they are going to be able to project enough power to do both and keep their units supplied once the  U.S. Navy and Air Force go in? I also wouldn't go fracking around in the PI either . Their Army has plenty of experience with fighting terrorist and guerrillas in their islands.

You are assuming that Obama would stand up to them.  I wouldn't.

Title: Re: China Calls For War in South China Sea ?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on October 05, 2011, 02:40:21 PM

This kind of out-of-the-box military adventurism can't possibly turn out well for the Chinese in their relations with India or Japan, let alone the PI.  Viet Nam and the PI do represent entirely different military situations for the Chinese; in the  first, blue-water naval capability is irrelevant, in the second, a necessity.

The only way this even makes any sense at all in military terms is as a cover for staging a conquest of Taiwan.

Title: Re: China Calls For War in South China Sea ?
Post by: Airwolf on October 05, 2011, 03:52:39 PM

Quote from: thundley4 on October 05, 2011, 01:47:36 PM

You are assuming that Obama would stand up to them.  I wouldn't.

 

Not quite.  I'm assuming they won't try until after the 2012 elections.  They won't have the capability to pull something like this till long after Barry  Big Ears is out of office.

Title: Re: China Calls For War in South China Sea ?
Post by: thundley4 on October 05, 2011, 03:54:55 PM

Quote from: Airwolf on October 05, 2011, 03:52:39 PM

 

Not quite.  I'm assuming they won't try until after the 2012 elections.  They won't have the capability to pull something like this till long after Barry  Big Ears is out of office.

Could they be floating a trial balloon to see what others countries may think?

Title: Re: China Calls For War in South China Sea ?
Post by: CG6468 on October 05, 2011, 04:02:07 PM

I think Davey Jones should prepare his locker for more inhabitants.

Title: Re: China Calls For War in South China Sea ?
Post by: Airwolf on October 05, 2011, 10:47:05 PM

Quote from: thundley4 on October 05, 2011, 03:54:55 PM

Could they be floating a trial balloon to see what others countries may think?

Possibly. It would also get the Japanese and the rest of Southeast Asia in a snit and alot of weapons sales to them from us. The Aussies also wouldn't just set that one out. The one thing the Chinese seem to forget is tha tduring WWII is that the Japanese couldn't hold onto the whole thing and granted the tech is different but they at least had a huge Navy to keep us at bay with.

Title: Re: China Calls For War in South China Sea ?
Post by: DefiantSix on October 05, 2011, 10:55:57 PM

Ya know, I think Tom Clancy wrote a book about this very subject:

Why yes.  Yes he did.

(http://cf.mp-cdn.net/4d/ac/6b133d708389a9dfa48c2249591e.jpg)

I wonder if this means that Commies are predictable???