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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on October 02, 2011, 06:31:39 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2043688
Oh my.
Omaha Steve (1000+ posts) Sun Oct-02-11 07:13 PM
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Lest We Forget: President Franklin D. Roosevelt, addressing a crowd in San Diego October 2, 1935
http://www.workdayminnesota.org/index.php?history_9_10_...
October 2, 1935 - President Franklin D. Roosevelt, addressing a crowd in San Diego, asserted the right of all workers to join unions. He said, "It is now beyond partisan controversy that it is a fundamental individual right of a worker to associate himself with other workers and to bargain collectively with his employer."
But one wonders what this has to do with the issue of the day on Skins's island, the Siege of Wall Street.
ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Sun Oct-02-11 07:27 PM
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1. A powerful K&R from Occupied Wisconsin...
NGU.
No primitives seem to be paying attention to my fellow Nebraskan; they're riveted on Wall Street instead.
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The founders of the labor movement viewed unions as a vehicle to get workers more of the profits they help create. Government workers, however, don’t generate profits. They merely negotiate for more tax money. When government unions strike, they strike against taxpayers. F.D.R. considered this “unthinkable and intolerable.â€
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/02/18/the-first-blow-against-public-employees/fdr-warned-us-about-public-sector-unions
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In a little-known letter he wrote to the president of the National Federation of Federal Employees in 1937, Roosevelt reasoned:
"... Meticulous attention should be paid to the special relationships and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the government. All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations ... The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for ... officials ... to bind the employer ... The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives ...
"Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of government employees. Upon employees in the federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people ... This obligation is paramount ... A strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent ... to prevent or obstruct ... Government ... Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government ... is unthinkable and intolerable."
http://www2.hernandotoday.com/content/2010/oct/17/ha-fdrs-warning-public-employee-unions-a-no-no/
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And.....my fellow Nebraskan, who makes a comfortable wage sucking off the taxpayers of Omaha for the labor he does is.....one of those for whom Franklin Roosevelt said didn't need a union.
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I have no problem at all with workers voluntarily joining a union. What I have a HUGE problem with is workers being FORCED to join a union by Government, which is every bit as wrong under the Bill of Rights as prohibiting them from joining one.
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Note to lurking Union DUmmies:
http://www.suntimes.com/business/7926324-420/uaw-ratifies-4-year-pact-with-gm.html
Updated: September 28, 2011 2:32PM
DETROIT — The United Auto Workers said Wednesday that its members have ratified a new four-year labor agreement with GM that gives workers a $5,000 signing bonus and is expected to preserve or add 6,400 U.S. jobs.
It is the first contract for 48,500 GM hourly workers since the automaker’s 2009 bankruptcy and restructuring.
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Both Chrysler and GM workers gave up their right to strike over wage and benefit issues as part of their 2009 bankruptcies. Under contract changes approved by UAW members, any wage or benefit issues that cannot be resolved through negotiations would be settled through binding arbitration.
The UAW is now all bark and no bite. A big old bull dog chained to the porch. Government Motors, government rules. See what happens when you take the man's money? :lmao: Two thirds of the UAW is as impotent as the dude sitting in the bath tub.
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And.....my fellow Nebraskan, who makes a comfortable wage sucking off the taxpayers of Omaha for the labor he does is.....one of those for whom Franklin Roosevelt said didn't need a union.
I don't think the taxpayers of Omaha have been getting any labor out of Weeping Steve. He's on a gravy train at their expense.