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Title: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: Rebel on September 27, 2011, 10:11:08 AM
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SHOCKER: Herman Cain Now Leading Rick Perry 28%-18% in New Zogby Poll UPDATE: Dennis Miller Endorses Cain, Invites Me* to Hang Out in Hollywood

From Zogby: "Rick Perry has tumbled by more than 20 percentage points over the past month among Republican presidential primary voters and is now second to Herman Cain, who leads the field with 28%. Mitt Romney received little benefit from Perrys fall, garnering 17% of the vote for third place. . . .These results are from an IBOPE Zogby interactive poll conducted Sept. 23-26."


http://theothermccain.com/2011/09/26/shocker-herman-cain-leads-perry-28-18-in-new-zogby-poll/

Here's the original link, but Zogby isn't working for me right now.

http://www.ibopezogby.com/news/2011/09/26/ibope-zogby-poll-perry-plummets-18-trails-cain-lead-among-gop-primary-voters/
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: debk on September 27, 2011, 10:12:02 AM
 :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: Celtic Rose on September 27, 2011, 10:18:44 AM
I hope somebody is saving screen caps of the DUmmies reaction to Cain.  If he ends up being the Republican Candidate, they might be useful  :tongue:
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on September 27, 2011, 10:19:48 AM
To quote your former avatar, Rebel:

Rock You Like A Herman Cain.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 27, 2011, 10:43:00 AM
There are a whole lot of worse possible outcomes to the GOP Primary cluster**** than having Herman Cain win it, I can sure get on board with him if he can make it last.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: SherryBaby on September 27, 2011, 10:45:04 AM
To quote your former avatar, Rebel:

Rock You Like A Herman Cain.

H5!
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: NHSparky on September 27, 2011, 11:24:58 AM
While I certainly have some concerns regarding Cain's foreign policy experience, I do think he can be brought up to speed and in fact be a more credible candidate than Obama has demonstrated thus far.  Has he said some questionable things?  Yup, and they're going to be brought out.

But all in all, I have no problem pulling the lever for Cain in February.  Wouldn't THAT just make DUmmies heads asplode?  A state that's 97 percent white voting for the black guy....
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on September 27, 2011, 11:27:16 AM
While I certainly have some concerns regarding Cain's foreign policy experience, I do think he can be brought up to speed and in fact be a more credible candidate than Obama has demonstrated thus far.  Has he said some questionable things?  Yup, and they're going to be brought out.

But all in all, I have no problem pulling the lever for Cain in February.  Wouldn't THAT just make DUmmies heads asplode?  A state that's 97 percent white voting for the black guy....

I get to vote for him first! :tongue:

I'm not worried about the foreign policy experience, or lack thereof.  Hell, it's not like Carter or Obama had any.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: DefiantSix on September 27, 2011, 11:41:27 AM
I get to vote for him first! :tongue:

I'm not worried about the foreign policy experience, or lack thereof.  Hell, it's not like Carter or Obama had any.

Hell, so long as he's not selling the store to the enemy like Comrade Jimmuh did/Comrade Klintoon did/Comrade Barry is, I'll be estatic. In that regard, his experience as Godfather's CEO is more than sufficient.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 27, 2011, 11:46:19 AM
Hell, so long as he's not selling the store to the enemy like Comrade Jimmuh did/Comrade Klintoon did/Comrade Barry is, I'll be estatic. In that regard, his experience as Godfather's CEO is more than sufficient.

Hey, at least he knows what to do with cheese besides giving it away.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: Erasmus on September 27, 2011, 11:50:24 AM
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A state that's 97 percent white voting for the black guy....

Herman Cain is black?  OMG!!!!  I've only heard him on talk radio....  Damn.  Now I will have to sit out the election.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: Karin on September 27, 2011, 12:04:01 PM
This is really picking up steam.  One of the things I like about Cain is that he says what he means and means what he says.  So many politicians go blah blah blah, spinning and pontificating. 
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: diesel driver on September 27, 2011, 12:13:18 PM
Herman Cain is black?  OMG!!!!  I've only heard him on talk radio....  Damn.  Now I will have to sit out the election.

                       :lol:

Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: Rebel on September 27, 2011, 01:18:34 PM
While I certainly have some concerns regarding Cain's foreign policy experience,

That's what a cabinet is for. Last I checked, neither Reagan, nor Clinton, nor GW Bush, nor many of the others had foreign policy experience when they were elected. All these guys telling you what "they'd do" are doing nothing but paying lip service. They don't have the intel to make an informed decision right now. It's insulting to me when they do because I'm not some non-thinking, braind-dead Democrat. He's had a stellar, 40-year career making the right decisions and putting the right people in the right places. Bring Newt on as Sec'y of State. They're friends.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on September 27, 2011, 01:20:35 PM
That's what a cabinet is for. Last I checked, neither Reagan, nor Clinton, nor GW Bush, nor many of the others had foreign policy experience when they were elected. All these guys telling you what "they'd do" are doing nothing but paying lip service. They don't have the intel to make an informed decision right now. It's insulting to me when they do because I'm not some non-thinking, braind-dead Democrat. He's had a stellar, 40-year career making the right decisions and putting the right people in the right places. Bring Newt on as Sec'y of State. They're friends.

That's right.  You surround yourself with people who ARE experienced with foreign policy.  It's not something where experience is easily gained.  Unless you're brain-dead Nadin and use the google.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: Erasmus on September 27, 2011, 01:23:07 PM
That's right.  You surround yourself with people who ARE experienced with foreign policy.  It's not something where experience is easily gained.  Unless you're brain-dead Nadin and use the google.

Exactly.  You pick people who aren't Marxist, terrorist sympathizers like Obama and his henchmen and hit the ground running.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: thundley4 on September 27, 2011, 01:49:50 PM
Exactly.  You pick people who aren't Marxist, terrorist sympathizers like Obama and his henchmen and hit the ground running.


Obama did keep around experienced people on foreign policy, it's just his picks for domestic and economic policies that are so effed up.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: Rebel on September 27, 2011, 01:52:32 PM

Obama did keep around experienced people on foreign policy,

...but we needed people who were concerned with "our" foreign policy.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: sybilll on September 27, 2011, 06:02:16 PM
As usual, I think Rush said it best.  Cain is rising to the top because he is consistently Conservative.  Word is the next couple of debates will hit hard on foreign policy, so he could stand some polishing, but, otherwise, Herman is rocking it!
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: formerlurker on September 27, 2011, 06:06:29 PM
As usual, I think Rush said it best.  Cain is rising to the top because he is consistently Conservative.  Word is the next couple of debates will hit hard on foreign policy, so he could stand some polishing, but, otherwise, Herman is rocking it!

Should be good.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 27, 2011, 06:13:52 PM
I stated quite awhile back that after Obama, I bet that the next black president to sit in the Oval Office would be a conservative one. I had no idea that it would be so soon and that it would come back to back.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: Rebel on September 27, 2011, 06:20:57 PM
I stated quite awhile back that after Obama, I bet that the next black president to sit in the Oval Office would be a conservative one. I had no idea that it would be so soon and that it would come back to back.

...as long as he's American this time.  :stirpot:
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: longview on September 27, 2011, 07:34:23 PM
I sure like that guy.  This is great!   :yahoo:
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: RockMan on September 28, 2011, 12:04:26 PM
I'm not worried about the foreign policy experience, or lack thereof.  Hell, it's not like Carter or Obama had any.

Yeah, that turned out really well both times.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: Rebel on September 28, 2011, 12:49:42 PM
Yeah, that turned out really well both times.

That's what a cabinet is for. Unlike Obama though, Herman will actually, I don't know, put people in positions that actually "like" the country?
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: JGHB on September 28, 2011, 02:09:11 PM
But, but, we conservatives are all racist.  How can Cain possibly be ahead?

heheh   I like Herman Cain and he would be a kazillion times better than Bozo.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 29, 2011, 03:45:31 AM
But, but, we conservatives are all racist.  How can Cain possibly be ahead?

heheh   I like Herman Cain and he would be a kazillion times better than Bozo.

That was close enough to remind me. What was that monkey movie the liberals gave Ronald Reagan so much hell about? "Bedtime for Bonzo" or something like that wasn't it?

Now how do you like that, not only did the star of that movie, RR, go on to become president but his costar, the monkey, has too.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: JGHB on September 29, 2011, 08:53:39 AM
That was close enough to remind me. What was that monkey movie the liberals gave Ronald Reagan so much hell about? "Bedtime for Bonzo" or something like that wasn't it?

Now how do you like that, not only did the star of that movie, RR, go on to become president but his costar, the monkey, has too.

I think I must disagree.  Bonzo would have done a much better job than Bozo has.   :rotf:
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: NHSparky on September 29, 2011, 09:55:13 AM
But, but, we conservatives are all racist.  How can Cain possibly be ahead?

heheh   I like Herman Cain and he would be a kazillion times better than Bozo.

Because if you believe Janeane Godawfulho and Keef Overbite, it's because we're hiding our racism that Cain is popular now...

LINKY (http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/29/garofalo-gop-using-herman-cain-to-keep-the-racism-very-covert/)
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: President Zero on September 29, 2011, 10:13:01 AM
The thing I like most about Herman Cain is he's gritty. He's go a can-do attitude and gives solutions when asked a question. It seems he is getting stronger and more confident with each public appearance. I was worried about him when he made that muslim gaff a few months back, but I think that is totally forgotten now.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: Ronin on September 29, 2011, 08:54:54 PM
Excellent! :cheersmate:

Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: miskie on September 29, 2011, 09:00:14 PM
Because if you believe Janeane Godawfulho and Keef Overbite, it's because we're hiding our racism that Cain is popular now...

LINKY (http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/29/garofalo-gop-using-herman-cain-to-keep-the-racism-very-covert/)

So, according to Garofalo, people like the black dude, because they really don't like black dudes...

That must be some real special stuff they smoke in Hollywood, because the disconnect from reality is beyond comprehensible.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: Ronin on September 29, 2011, 09:20:25 PM
I get to vote for him first! :tongue:

I'm not worried about the foreign policy experience, or lack thereof.  Hell, it's not like Carter or Obama had any.

I am definitely not worried about that aspect because I am confident that Cain has that rare combination of brainpower and common sense that makes him not only a quick study, but also a fast and effective decision maker. 

He will also have a very limited tolerance for the crap that Libs like to dish out. 
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: JGHB on September 30, 2011, 08:38:51 AM
I am definitely not worried about that aspect because I am confident that Cain has that rare combination of brainpower and common sense that makes him not only a quick study, but also a fast and effective decision maker. 

He will also have a very limited tolerance for the crap that Libs like to dish out. 

Also, unlike the ego maniac in the WH, Cain wouldn't have a problem listening to and taking advice from more experienced and knowledgeable people. He is not a know-it-all.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: Eupher on September 30, 2011, 08:47:54 AM
It's probably already been mentioned, but it's worth repeating to some level.

Herman Cain appeals to the everyday person. He tells it like it is and is refreshingly honest. He also speaks in terms that everybody can understand.

These are things that the D.C. power base can't stand. Cain is a Washington outsider and I fervently believe that, because of that, he wouldn't be welcomed by either of the two political parties should he win the nomination and later, the election.

This is not to say that Cain shouldn't run or shouldn't do the things he's doing. On the contrary.

The indictment I'm proposing is the absolute shithole that D.C. has become. If you ain't a professional bureaucrat, politician, lobbyist, or leech, you're not welcome in D.C. because you make sense. You're trying to get things done. D.C. stopped trying to get things done years ago, other than to win reelections or to line their pockets with more taxpayer money.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: Ronin on September 30, 2011, 07:04:57 PM
Also, unlike the ego maniac in the WH, Cain wouldn't have a problem listening to and taking advice from more experienced and knowledgeable people. He is not a know-it-all.

Exactly.  He will listen to the theories, he will talk to the experts, but he will also pay close attention to the people on the pointy-end of the stick and find out what works and what doesn't. In truth, that's what is the most important.  As Richard Feynman liked to say, "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong."

Cain's too smart to listen to bullshit about things that don't work.  90% of the problems we are facing now, not just in America but around the world, are the results of policies implemented by well meaning idiots based on beautiful theories that simply DO NOT WORK.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: thundley4 on September 30, 2011, 07:25:18 PM
It's probably already been mentioned, but it's worth repeating to some level.

Herman Cain appeals to the everyday person. He tells it like it is and is refreshingly honest. He also speaks in terms that everybody can understand.

These are things that the D.C. power base can't stand. Cain is a Washington outsider and I fervently believe that, because of that, he wouldn't be welcomed by either of the two political parties should he win the nomination and later, the election.

This is not to say that Cain shouldn't run or shouldn't do the things he's doing. On the contrary.

The indictment I'm proposing is the absolute shithole that D.C. has become. If you ain't a professional bureaucrat, politician, lobbyist, or leech, you're not welcome in D.C. because you make sense. You're trying to get things done. D.C. stopped trying to get things done years ago, other than to win reelections or to line their pockets with more taxpayer money.

If, and it is a big if, Cain were to win in a Reaganesque landslide, and both parties did their worst at foiling his policies, then you would see a bloodbath come the next congressional election cycle.
Title: Re: New Zogby Poll has Herman Cain Leading, 28%, Perry 18%
Post by: JohnnyReb on October 01, 2011, 03:59:50 AM
If, and it is a big if, Cain were to win in a Reaganesque landslide, and both parties did their worst at foiling his policies, then you would see a bloodbath come the next congressional election cycle.

Which in my opinion wouldn't/couldn't be a bad thing.