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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tucker on September 20, 2011, 12:21:51 PM
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rsmith6621 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Sep-20-11 10:52 AM
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Troy Davis to be executed after parole board denies clemency
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/troy-davis-executed...
A Georgia parole board has denied clemency to Troy Davis, the death-row inmate whose case attracted international attention amid what supporters say are significant doubts over his guilt. With the failure of Davis' last-ditch appeal, announced Tuesday morning, he appears all but certain to be executed by lethal injection Wednesday at 7 p.m.
"He's guilty," Joan MacPhail-Harris, the widow of the Savannah cop who Davis was convicted of killing, told reporters Monday before the board announced its decision. "We need to go ahead and execute him."
Davis, 41, was convicted of the 1989 murder of Mark Allen MacPhail, an off-duty Savannah, Ga. police officer. MacPhail, who was running to the aid of a homeless man being pistol-whipped, was shot three times in a Burger King parking lot before he could draw his weapon.
No Surprise Here...Red Christian Bible Belt States Really Value LIFE..They Are Hypocrites{?}
CarmanK (332 posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Sep-20-11 11:03 AM
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2. THE WIDOW wants revenge, blood any body's blood!
The Board of Parole and Probations issued a defiant statement yesterday, saying that is was their decision and theirs alone that would decide Davis' fate. That was when I knew, the world pleas for mercy for the many fell on deaf ears. That hearing yesterday was a farce, that the board had to endure in order to "LOOK LIKE IT WAS SEEKING JUSTICE". They had made up their minds ahead of time.
Rainbowreflect (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Sep-20-11 01:03 PM
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8. I will never understand this thought process.
I have been a victim of a violent crime and so have people I know. I want the right person convicted and punished, not just "someone" punished. Of course I have always been against the death penalty.
FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Sep-20-11 11:17 AM
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4. NOOOOO!!!!!!
THIS CAN'T BE!!! NO! NO! NO! NO! NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
HOW CAN THEY DO THIS????
It's a real shame that you're not on the gurney waiting in line.
Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Sep-20-11 11:24 AM
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5. "He's guilty." Assuming he did it...
...is it really accurate to say "he's guilty," present tense, when the crime happened 22 years ago? Is he STILL guilty? I realize guilt is a legal status that attaches to aperson upon a court finding of guilt, so I'm asking in the moral sense of the word. I don't think it is a stretch to ask that because in most people's minds including the victim's wife, legal guilt certainly has a large, moral component to it.
Whatever you did to kill all of your brain cell, please stop.
judy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Sep-20-11 11:31 AM
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6. This is horrible...
...and I am ashamed of my US citizenship when I read this.
"Beyond a Reasonable Doubt", and definitely Troy Davis' case is now loaded with doubt, after the witnesses recanted, and even pointed to the real murderer. This is a travesty of justice, that stinks of racism.
I am also against the death penalty no matter what. What the widow says is normal, as she was understandably devastated by the death of her husband.
However, she is wrong in thinking that killing someone else will give her relief. It will not.
patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Sep-20-11 12:21 PM
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7. Does anyone know of any protest actions? nt
Get enough people and we'll order pizzas.
No Melanie sighting as of yet.
Think murder by ABORTION
New campfire.
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It's a real shame that you're not on the gurney waiting in line.
Why do they get a nice comfortable gurney? The whole thing sounds too much like taking a nap.
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I know, we sedate his mother and use a giant vaccum cleaner to suck him through the cell bars. We'll call it a late term abortion. That should make the DUmmies happy.
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At least troy davis got to have a fair trial where he could plead his case before being executed. Contrast that with all of the innocent babies killed everyday thru abortion who never get a fair trial to avoid being executed.
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At least troy davis got to have a fair trial where he could plead his case before being executed. Contrast that with all of the innocent babies killed everyday thru abortion who never get a fair trial to avoid being executed.
MacPhail also did not receive a fair trial before being executed.
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Read this DUmbshits: http://www.wtoc.com/Global/story.asp?S=9229952&nav=menu89_10_15_1
Just like with Tookie, Leonard Peltier or any other waste of human flesh, you assholes are ALWAYS on the wrong side.
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Read this DUmbshits: http://www.wtoc.com/Global/story.asp?S=9229952&nav=menu89_10_15_1
Just like with Tookie, Leonard Peltier or any other waste of human flesh, you assholes are ALWAYS on the wrong side.
From link:
However, one thing he agrees with the Davis family on is the judicial system itself. He says it's not working and he says the fact this case has dragged on for 17 years is proof.
Ain't it the truth.
17 years is actually a short time between conviction and execution. Most are 20+ years.
That needs to be cut in half.
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Help me figure this out. They're so concerned that we might execute an innocent person, therefore no one can ever be executed to head off that possibility. Yet with abortion, we know that the person being killed is innocent, but they're all in favor of that. :thatsright:
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From link:
Ain't it the truth.
17 years is actually a short time between conviction and execution. Most are 20+ years.
That needs to be cut in half.
Nope. Divide it by 12. as in, that 17 - 20+ years should be no more than 17 - 20 or so MONTHS...
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...amid what supporters say are significant doubts over his guilt...
Of course there is doubt from his supporters. Just forget that there was a trial, several appeals, and he was STILL FOUND GUILTY OF KILLING A COP.
Let this moron die, the sooner the better.
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Help me figure this out. They're so concerned that we might execute an innocent person, therefore no one can ever be executed to head off that possibility. Yet with abortion, we know that the person being killed is innocent, but they're all in favor of that. :thatsright:
Liberals thinking-------This 8 month fetus may be viable outside the womb, but can the mother care for this child after live birth. Will the mother kill the child and end up in jail .Best to remove all these problems now and do a late abortion. Then for the late term abortions that fail, the child lives some how, a nightmare for the child and the mother, how to come to terms with this.
I have heard some off the wall excuses such as the above that cause my hair to stand on end. Are these people humans or monsters.
For the excuses for no executions for those that have taken others lives, some are totally weird. These people still have something to give to society, they made a big mistake but have now found Jesus and will never do that again. Those on drugs that kill their intire family's now off drugs suffer more then anyone can imagine. [ yes, right, sure they do] except for the family's of those killed, their friends, and the loss to society of what they may have become.
I have watched on TV court cases of parents begging the Court to spare their child's life, and the parents of little kids this monster killed raped and tortured and wonder at the mental anguish to both family's. One family has to live with the thought that their child will die under humane circumstances, the other family's knowing the horror he did to their children, nothing humane about it, why he should not suffer as their children did.
My take on this is all must be done from DNA to the latest scientific methods to prove a person killed a person before putting them to death. Before a life is taken the Courts and law must do everything they can at the time to prove the defendant killed.
Prove it, then this is a choice the defendent made, life or death. No one to blame but the person guilty and no way anyone can disagree.
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Well, when you are truly evil, like most liberals, you support scum like this.
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Of course there is doubt from his supporters. Just forget that there was a trial, several appeals, and he was STILL FOUND GUILTY OF KILLING A COP.
Let this moron die, the sooner the better.
Exactly. As is typical with Libtards they conveniently leave out certain facts so they can support their position.
From the link:
Earlier in the day Davis shot another fella at a pool party. He was convicted of shooting him in the face. The shell casings exactly matched the shooting of Officer MacPhail
No mention of this in the selective media, what say you DUmmies?
*not holding my breath for a response*
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Today is the day. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/emoticons/hung.gif)
Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.
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There's a funny thread at the DUmp today where DUmbass trumad argues against the death penalty because it isn't "full proof".
Full me once, shame on you...
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Today is the day. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/tucker13/emoticons/hung.gif)
Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.
Tucjker, that emoticon should be part of our emoticons. :-) O-) :lmao: :rotf: :lol: :rofl:
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Rainbowreflect (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-20-11 01:03 PM
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8. I will never understand this thought process.
I have been a victim of a violent crime and so have people I know.
Of course I have always been against the death penalty.
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I haven't looked at DUmmyland yet, but I can already tell you I won't see a single thread of them protesting the guy who is going to die in Texas tonight. He was white and he and his buddies drug James Byrd (a black man) behind a pick up truck and killed him. I'm not saying that it should be protested, but if they are to be consistent on their DP views shouldn't they want to save his life too?
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I haven't looked at DUmmyland yet, but I can already tell you I won't see a single thread of them protesting the guy who is going to die in Texas tonight. He was white and he and his buddies drug James Byrd (a black man) behind a pick up truck and killed him. I'm not saying that it should be protested, but if they are to be consistent on their DP views shouldn't they want to save his life too?
No protests. Here is a thread about it if anyone is interested:
The Other Execution Tonight (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1976718)
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No protests. Here is a thread about it if anyone is interested:
The Other Execution Tonight (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1976718)
Some lip service that he should be in prison for life instead of getting the needle, but they aren't going to campaign to save his life.
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Some lip service that he should be in prison for life instead of getting the needle, but they aren't going to campaign to save his life.
bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-21-11 10:54 AM
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1. Troy Davis is who we need to be concerned about right now
and that's where my attention will remain focused.
DUmmie puts one life , a black man's no less above another's. He must be racist.
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What amuses me is, the monkeys at the DUmp think they can actually change the outcome of this and save the cop killer.
In about an hour there will be sadness all through DUmmyland.
I admit I feel a bit of sadness over this, sadness over the innocent man who lost his life, sadness for the family that lost a loved one, sadness that evil people walk amongst us. And I feel the exact same same way about the one in Texas too.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1979543
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one_voice (1000+ posts) Wed Sep-21-11 05:50 PM
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Uh pro-life peeps...
Where are you? Troy Davis needs you!!
Where are all those pro-life groups that wanna get all up in my uterus? A man that may be innocent is about to be put to death...
WHERE THE **** ARE YOU NOW!!?!?!?
The silence is deafening!
He ain't innocent.
Yesterday she was crying because her husband lost his job and it wasn't his fault. Now she's crying over some killer that claims it wasn't his fault. It's always someone else's fault in DUmmy world.
A baby has no choice. A grown up does.
You buy your ticket you take the ride.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1979543
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He ain't innocent.
Yesterday she was crying because her husband lost his job and it wasn't his fault. Now she's crying over some killer that claims it wasn't his fault. It's always someone else's fault in DUmmy world.
A baby has no choice. A grown up does.
You be correct.uy your ticket you take the ride.
You are correct.
For those of us that are intimately familiar with this case, there is zero doubt concerning who did it. It was true the night of the shooting, and the facts haven't changed. So, for all you lurkers ... Davis is GUILTY. There "is" evidence linking him to the crime. There has "always" been evidence linking him to the crime. End of story.
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You are correct.
For those of us that are intimately familiar with this case, there is zero doubt concerning who did it. It was true the night of the shooting, and the facts haven't changed. So, for all you lurkers ... Davis is GUILTY. There "is" evidence linking him to the crime. There has "always" been evidence linking him to the crime. End of story.
That may be, but he claims he's innocent, and he happens to be black.
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Based on what I've read I don't personally think they should execute him. But I'm fundamentally against the death penalty to begin with.
But don't any of you dare say I'd support killing a baby but not someone with a rock solid case (something this one doesn't appear to have) against them. I'm against both.
But I have no plan to argue with anyone about it, it's just my opinion.
In the end they either kill an innocent man or a guilty one, there are only two possibilities with it in the end.
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Based on what I've read I don't personally think they should execute him. But I'm fundamentally against the death penalty to begin with.
But don't any of you dare say I'd support killing a baby but not someone with a rock solid case (something this one doesn't have) against them. I'm against both.
But I have no plan to argue with anyone about it, it's just my opinion.
You support killing babies!!!!111111 eleventy.
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You support killing babies!!!!111111 eleventy.
:tongue:
:thatsright:
Yah, I kind of saw that coming. :p
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Based on what I've read I don't personally think they should execute him. But I'm fundamentally against the death penalty to begin with.
But don't any of you dare say I'd support killing a baby but not someone with a rock solid case (something this one doesn't appear to have) against them. I'm against both.
But I have no plan to argue with anyone about it, it's just my opinion.
In the end they either kill an innocent man or a guilty one, there are only two possibilities with it in the end.
I can understand not supporting the death penalty, you won't be banned or your post deleted here for having a different view than most at CC. Something no one can say about DU. :wink:
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Roger Coleman claimed he was innocent of raping and killing his sister in law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Keith_Coleman
He wasn't.
Personally I'd like to see Scott Peterson meet his maker.
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He got a stay.
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He got a stay.
Who?
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Fox says he didn't.
The DUmmies will be mad.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1980156
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Troy Davis did not get a stay.
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" In other news, Troy Davis is still dead, DUmmies gnash teeth".
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I don't like the death penalty. Honestly, I don't trust the government to get it right 100 percent of the time. I always worry that an innocent person will be put to death. Also, because I am Catholic and pro-life, I believe that the death penalty should be used only in the most extreme cases--mostly for the protection of other innocent life.
That said, two guilty men were executed last night. I don't celebrate that, but I understand it.
I guess I hate that we still need the death penalty, if that makes any sense.
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I don't like the death penalty. Honestly, I don't trust the government to get it right 100 percent of the time. I always worry that an innocent person will be put to death. Also, because I am Catholic and pro-life, I believe that the death penalty should be used only in the most extreme cases--mostly for the protection of other innocent life.
That said, two guilty men were executed last night. I don't celebrate that, but I understand it.
I guess I hate that we still need the death penalty, if that makes any sense.
I've struggled for years being pro-life and whether I should be pro or con in reference to the death penalty, and yes I struggle with the fear that an innocent person could be executed, but 9/11 kind of changed that, to be against the death penalty would put me in a position at the time to defend Bin Laden's right to live, and I couldn't bring myself to say that. From all the evidence I've seen he was guilty, and he's in God's hands now so I say let God be the Judge.
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Would the DUches be happier if we framed this as a 504 month late term abortion?
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Would the DUches be happier if we framed this as a 504 month late term abortion?
I had a very similar thought earlier. Instead of lethal injection, we stuff the criminal into a giant vagina and suck him out of a hole the size of a softball with an industrial vacuum, tearing him to pieces and crushing his skull in the process. Dems should be fine with the death penalty then.
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Would the DUches be happier if we framed this as a 504 month late term abortion?
I had an uncle who always called it "Retroactive abortion".
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I'm really tired of all this capital punishment gloom enveloping the DUmp.
How about some fun?
Here's a riddle, DUmmies:
What do a mackerel, a doornail, Troy Davis, and Fat Teddy all have in common?
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I'm really tired of all this capital punishment gloom enveloping the DUmp.
How about some fun?
Here's a riddle, DUmmies:
What do a mackerel, a doornail, Troy Davis, and Fat Teddy all have in common?
They all voted for Obama because it was Bush's fault.
Maybe if we explained things a little differently to the DUmmies they would all be for a speedy execution of cop killers.
I'm guessing it cost $50,000.00 a year to hold him on death row. 22 years at that price is $1,100,000.00 not to mention legal fees for his lawyers because you know he couldn't afford one, they never can. Now add in court costs, doctor costs, etc. etc. and soon you are talking enough money to keep quite a few DUmmies in the lifestyle they think they deserve.....WAA-LAA...."kill the bastard already and send me my fair share"[DUmmie/mode]....a new death penalty convert.
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I had a very similar thought earlier. Instead of lethal injection, we stuff the criminal into a giant vagina and suck him out of a hole the size of a softball with an industrial vacuum, tearing him to pieces and crushing his skull in the process. Dems should be fine with the death penalty then.
Damn, you're good, sir.
Awesome.
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I'm really tired of all this capital punishment gloom enveloping the DUmp.
How about some fun?
Here's a riddle, DUmmies:
What do a mackerel, a doornail, Troy Davis, and Fat Teddy all have in common?
I can answer that, me of feable mind--They are all Dead