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Potential for some DU on DU action. If there ever was a thread for Bobbo to post in this would be it.
HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-16-11 09:54 AM
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I am not rich, yet I am a JOB CREATOR!!!!
I never realized this. Imagine that? Let me explain. I own a home in a gated community which has a Home Owners Association. We have a community clubhouse and restaurant. We have a private golf course. In order to run all these facilities, a lot of people have to be EMPLOYED. Jobs have been created for cooks, waiters, cleaning help, receptionists, accountants, golf course personnel, landscapers, etc, etc. This community employs at lot of people. Has a rich person, making profits, created all these jobs? Absolutely not. Several hundred homeowners through their association dues are creating these jobs and paying these workers salaries. The HOA does not make profits from this "business". This community is a non-profit entity, and very, very few of us homeowners are RICH.
Yep, only RICH people (or bad government) create jobs.
Compared to some of the misfits on DU this person is rich but is too ignorant to realize it.
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cali (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-16-11 11:06 AM
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4. ugh. gated communities. and what you're creating are most likely low
paying service jobs. and please don't tell me that the people in your community with its private club house and golf course aren't rich. Creating jobs my ass. What self-serving privileged shit.
And a bitchslap from the "have-nots" gallery!
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Several hundred homeowners through their association dues are creating these jobs and paying these workers salaries. The HOA does not make profits from this "business".
WRONG!!!!
Your HOA dues have nothing to do with creating jobs for the country club, you idiot. :banghead:
The dues go for maintenance of the property. The members of the PRIVATE club pay for all the salaries of the cooks, grounds crew, waiters, bartenders, etc.
And I didn't google this ala Nadin - I used to be the treasurer of my country club.
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Hell, free government housing creates more jobs than rich bitch and friends do.
Think about it a minute.
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-16-11 11:22 AM
Response to Reply #4
13. Ok I will give you another example
I used to work at NON PROFIT agency for the developmentally disabled. Was the founder of this agency a rich person? She was a nun who left the convent. Was she or her family rich? Nope. Ok, most of these were LOW PAYING JOBS, BUT people who did this weren't working there to make a lot of money. You cannot put a price on this. No one would have lasted one single day in this field if you didn't care more about PEOPLE than money. Do you think people should be making a lot of money, and profits, off the less fortunate? I don't.
BTW, I was not bragging. I plan to leave here very soon BECAUSE all this means nothing to me. MONEY, and material possessions cannot keep my kids close to me, or give me the 4 Seasons I so want. I will be moving in with my daughter who lives in a basement apartment. I suppose many, many would not understand that all. My choice OVER THIS.
I was bringing up the point of NON PROFITS, and how their idea of for profit businesses is the ONLY way to create jobs.
And for what it is worth, I HATE corporations and small for profit businesses.
Translation of the 2 bolded portions;
My husband is kicking my ass to the curb and I have no where else to go!
I can out DUmmie you ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!!!
That's just my take.
KC
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We have a community clubhouse and restaurant.
I highly doubt that the community clubhouse & restaurant are running 7 days a week, unless your gated community is unlike anything I've ever seen before. This sounds like the "clubhouse" at an apartment complex that might get rented out once a month.
You are not creating jobs just by living there, you ****ing dolt. :banghead:
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Translation of the 2 bolded portions;
My husband is kicking my ass to the curb and I have no where else to go!
I can out DUmmie you ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!!!
That's just my take.
KC
I'm starting to smell something here.
And it's a pretty big smell.
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-16-11 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #11
15. Only rich people are job creators
Non-profits do too. That nun in my previous post "employed" several hundred people. This is a RANT against profits, profits, profits.
Yes, the four letter word. Profit.
Jeeze these folks ....
KC
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I'm starting to smell something here.
And it's a pretty big smell.
LOL. I think you're right frank.
KC
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WRONG!!!!
Your HOA dues have nothing to do with creating jobs for the country club, you idiot. :banghead:
The dues go for maintenance of the property. The members of the PRIVATE club pay for all the salaries of the cooks, grounds crew, waiters, bartenders, etc.
And I didn't google this ala Nadin - I used to be the treasurer of my country club.
You sir, are correct.
KC
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HOA dues are just like taxes. They create no new value - just a redistribution, moron. That money you would have otherwise spent supporting some other part of the economy. Rich people create jobs because they invest their capital in hopes of producing something of GREATER value than the amount of capital they invest. HOA's in no way do this.
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Broderick (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-16-11 11:32 AM
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17. Must be nice to live where you can keep the
rest of us rift raff out. We might soil your lawn, or heaven forbid you have to interact with one of us. If a neighbor invited us over would you say that they are having "one of those people" over?
LOL What is that Broderick? Rabble divided?
KC
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You sir, are correct.
KC
Well when you know what you're talking about, it is easy to be right. :-)
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rift raff
:rotf: :rotf:
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HockeyMom
And for what it is worth, I HATE... small for profit businesses.
Wow! The corner Mom & Pop stores don't stand a chance with this hockey puck around.
I am, however, guessing that the home she purchased in the gated community on a private golf course was all designed and built by small for profit businesses. The basement she's moving to was probably also built by a small businessperson.
Oh well, guess she'll just have deal with having her life made better by small for profit businesses.
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Wow! The corner Mom & Pop stores don't stand a chance with this hockey puck around.
I am, however, guessing that the home she purchased in the gated community on a private golf course was all designed and built by small for profit businesses. The basement she's moving to was probably also built by a small businessperson.
Oh well, guess she'll just have deal with having her life made better by small for profit businesses.
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When she has to resort to streetwalking for $$$, I wonder if she'll still hate small businesses.
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And for what it is worth, I HATE corporations and small for profit businesses.
:wtf3:
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HOA dues are just like taxes. They create no new value - just a redistribution, moron. That money you would have otherwise spent supporting some other part of the economy. Rich people create jobs because they invest their capital in hopes of producing something of GREATER value than the amount of capital they invest. HOA's in no way do this.
I agree on one level. However on another, I would say the HOA dues paid each year are made to help sustain, and possibly even enhance, the value of the property. So it could be that by investing a little in upkeep you end up sustaining (or even increasing the value of) a more desirable product for someone to eventully purchase. But I do understand that's not generally the purpose, but rather an increase in value is incidental to the main objective of maintaining the community.
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-16-11 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #11
15. Only rich people are job creators
Non-profits do too. That nun in my previous post "employed" several hundred people. This is a RANT against profits, profits, profits.
No DUmmie, the Non-profit employed those people and the Nun was only the organizer. I'm sure the non-profit operated on charitable contributions to actually employ those people.
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She's the one that HATES her Republican husband. She claimed to be running off to liberal heaven with her sister. She was skimming money off her husband to do that.
He probably cut her off. I know I would. Selfish witch.
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She's the one that HATES her Republican husband. She claimed to be running off to liberal heaven with her sister. She was skimming money off her husband to do that.
He probably cut her off. I know I would. Selfish witch.
shadeaux, do you have a link to that or can you find one?
Thanks,
KC
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I agree on one level. However on another, I would say the HOA dues paid each year are made to help sustain, and possibly even enhance, the value of the property. So it could be that by investing a little in upkeep you end up sustaining (or even increasing the value of) a more desirable product for someone to eventully purchase. But I do understand that's not generally the purpose, but rather an increase in value is incidental to the main objective of maintaining the community.
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That's very well put. Maintaining the aesthetics of a property, which the HOA dues are paying for, contributes to the upkeep of the property. Trimming bushes & trees, snow removal, etc. We had new siding put on all the townhomes in my complex a few years ago, which we paid for by a special assessment. Still the same concept, but certainly the general dues would not cover that expense.
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I will look for the thread.
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That's very well put. Maintaining the aesthetics of a property, which the HOA dues are paying for, contributes to the upkeep of the property. Trimming bushes & trees, snow removal, etc. We had new siding put on all the townhomes in my complex a few years ago, which we paid for by a special assessment. Still the same concept, but certainly the general dues would not cover that expense.
But on the other side of that, HOA's are, rightly or wrongly, getting a very bad rep with their CCR's and other assorted bullshit regulations. Given a home I'd have to pay for upkeep on versus an HOA where common areas are taken care of (but I'm still on the hook for my own lot), I'll maintain my own property without the HOA sticking its nose in my business, thanks very much.
Bottom line, in a lot of cases, HOA's make it MORE difficult to resell a home and can actually HURT value.
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Actually, the HOA is the business. She is an investor in that small business. She gets to vote on who runs the HOA, be it a managing company or the homeowners themselves. It is a non profit, but they have a balance sheet that shows how much they have in the bank and they will run under budget or it won't be long for the world. As far as the golf course, she's just purchasing services from another company because I guarantee the HOA isn't running the course. So, she's not a job creator, the HOA, through dealings with other companies helps foster an environment conducive to job growth.
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But on the other side of that, HOA's are, rightly or wrongly, getting a very bad rep with their CCR's and other assorted bullshit regulations. Given a home I'd have to pay for upkeep on versus an HOA where common areas are taken care of (but I'm still on the hook for my own lot), I'll maintain my own property without the HOA sticking its nose in my business, thanks very much.
Bottom line, in a lot of cases, HOA's make it MORE difficult to resell a home and can actually HURT value.
I understand and agree with that too. Thankfully my HOA doesn't have any bullshit regulations, but it is also relatively small. Otherwise I wouldn't haven't have chosen it.
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She's the one that HATES her Republican husband. She claimed to be running off to liberal heaven with her sister. She was skimming money off her husband to do that.
He probably cut her off. I know I would. Selfish witch.
Is she from WI?
Sounds like the way my boss describes his brother in law's wife. The BIL owns several small businesses while the wife and his kids are big Obama supporters who hate the rich.
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-16-11 09:54 AM
Original message
I am not rich, yet I am a JOB CREATOR!!!!
I never realized this. Imagine that? Let me explain. I own a home in a gated community which has a Home Owners Association. We have a community clubhouse and restaurant. We have a private golf course.
...All of which exists ONLY because of some "Fat-cat developer" and his investors, you stupid bitch. Stop letting your kid practice high-sticking on your cranium.
Damn, are you an idiot.
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Yes, the four letter word. Profit.
Jeeze these folks .... KC
What else would you expect from dyed-in-the-septic-tank socialists?
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Oh my! she went from bragging to fumbling in 1 thread! :lmao:
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cali (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-16-11 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. oh for pity's sake. Her op is inane.
there is no excuse for the silliness of the op- or for claiming that people who live in a gated community with a private golf course aren't wealthy.
And no this isn't class envy on my part or dislike of someone with money.
BS, that is exactly what this is.
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HockeyMom will be a Conservative by the time that thread is done LOL!
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She's from New York. Currently in Florida, I think.
Can't find the lounge thread but almost every post she slams her husband. She's been doing it for years.
For someone so rich, she claims her husband never made over $100,000 and she's on the verge of being poor. Married 30 plus years in her 60s, she ain't going no where.
This was funny :
one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-14-11 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #88
100. She has been talking bad about her husband for ages.
She has castigated him in these fora for dragging her away from her beloved New York to the dismal backwater of Flori-DUH.
Where, she assures us, she can walk into any Wal-Mart and buy a handgun for $100 no questions asked.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
She did come clean once, "Count me in as a LIAR."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
She talks about him as being fat and a slug on the couch. As much dislike as she exhibits toward the man you would think she'd leave him. She either must need the meal ticket or is worried he'd be singing this if she left.
:rotf:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=435837&mesg_id=436524
She's an older version of greenbriar.
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She sounds like Sarah, the 1 who bashes her nice treats her wonderful and loves her Republican/Libertarian boyfriend.
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Interesting.
I knew that thread wasn't going to go well once she said "gated community."
Their allergy to profit is very irritating. In all my career, in practice and CV, I stress "maximizing profitability." I stay employed.
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:lmao:
She can't take it!
NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-16-11 02:01 PM
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30. Few of the posters in this thread are acting like vultures
Guess piling on someone has always been a progressive value? <head shaking/>
HockeyMom, I think this is the thread you were asking the moderators to lock in another thread that was locked? Go to your original OP and push the alert button and ask them to lock it there.
Take care and see you later.
Don
KC
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-16-11 02:01 PM
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30. Few of the posters in this thread are acting like vultures
Guess piling on someone has always been a progressive value? <head shaking/>
HockeyMom, I think this is the thread you were asking the moderators to lock in another thread that was locked? Go to your original OP and push the alert button and ask them to lock it there.
Take care and see you later.
Don
This is why they can't hold their own in the real world and deal with opinions that differ from theirs, they're always being coddled. Why the heck would they even lock a thread because someone asks them to?
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:lmao:
She can't take it!
KC
OMG! I just posted the same thing! :cheersmate:
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-16-11 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. If she's not a snob, why the gates?
Drive through the projects some time. That's why, you stupid twit and yeah, it IS about keeping out the riff raff.
This is the gate to my neighborhood, DUmmies:
(http://jonescreekplantationownersassociation.org/images/phocagallery/thumbs/phoca_thumb_l_jcp%20001.jpg)
Just to rub it in. :stirpot:
http://jonescreekplantationownersassociation.org/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=1:Homes&Itemid=80
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Oh that is really nice. :-)
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Drive through the projects some time. That's why, you stupid twit and yeah, it IS about keeping out the riff raff.
This is the gate to my neighborhood, DUmmies:
(http://jonescreekplantationownersassociation.org/images/phocagallery/thumbs/phoca_thumb_l_jcp%20001.jpg)
Just to rub it in. :stirpot:
http://jonescreekplantationownersassociation.org/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=1:Homes&Itemid=80
That's very nice architecture, I can't even see the Rottweilers with the laser packs, or the machinegun emplacements!
:-)
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That's very nice architecture, I can't even see the Rottweilers with the laser packs, or the machinegun emplacements!
:-)
Oh, they're there, just camouflaged. We have laser sharks in the the pond. Tried to put some in the one by the front entrance, but that belongs to Jones Creek and it's in the middle of a Par 3. :-)
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Drive through the projects some time. That's why, you stupid twit and yeah, it IS about keeping out the riff raff.
This is the gate to my neighborhood, DUmmies:
(http://jonescreekplantationownersassociation.org/images/phocagallery/thumbs/phoca_thumb_l_jcp%20001.jpg)
Just to rub it in. :stirpot:
http://jonescreekplantationownersassociation.org/index.php?option=com_phocagallery&view=category&id=1:Homes&Itemid=80
you live there. snob.
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cali (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-16-11 11:06 AM
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4. ugh. gated communities. and what you're creating are most likely low
paying service jobs. and please don't tell me that the people in your community with its private club house and golf course aren't rich. Creating jobs my ass. What self-serving privileged shit.
You don't have to be rich to live in a gated community. We live in a gated community and I drive an 11 year old Jaguar. Doesn't make us rich. Just makes people, like you, think we are rich which is quite hilarious.
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Oh, they're there, just camouflaged. We have laser sharks in the the pond. Tried to put some in the one by the front entrance, but that belongs to Jones Creek and it's in the middle of a Par 3. :-)
Kind of gives a new and exciting meaning to the term "water hazard", dontcha think?
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You don't have to be rich to live in a gated community. We live in a gated community and I drive an 11 year old Jaguar. Doesn't make us rich. Just makes people, like you, think we are rich which is quite hilarious.
That's *ahem* a "Classic Jaguar."
:-)
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Yeah, and Ralph Wiggum used to be the Treasurer of his Country Club. La dee da. :-)
I live in an historic mansion, DUmmies. I bought it to save it from DUmmies living inside it, destroying it bit by bit.
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That's *ahem* a "Classic Jaguar."
:-)
If it was "classic" it would be broke down and sitting in the garage. :whistling:
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If it was "classic" it would be broke down and sitting in the garage. :whistling:
The ultimate fate of all English cars, really...
:-)
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How the hell does an HOA of a gated community with a PRIVATE golf course obtain non-profit status?
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There's always this --> http://jagsthatrun.com/
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We used to live in a gated community....then daddy moved the fence.
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HockeyMom is following in DUmbass greenbriar's footsteps.
Brag about your stuff, and rub the DUmpmonkeys' noses in their miserable poverty.
Then swear that was the furthest thing from your mind.
I wonder if HockeyMom has a Glock.
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There's always this --> http://jagsthatrun.com/
If you take proper care of your car, it will run forever-ish.
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Or you could just buy a Ford. :p
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Daddy moved the fence. :rotf:
I live in a golfing community. There is no gate. All the streets are golf terms. It's out in the sticks.
It looks like everyone in my hood works. There is a steady line of cars leaving between 5 and 7 every morning.
Rich people don't work. DUmmies can't stand anyone having more than they do. They understand nothing about hard work.
They would die if they saw what happens here about 3:30 in the afternoon during school days. Parents pick up their kids in golf carts.
I see no "wealthy" people. Only successful people.
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Daddy moved the fence. :rotf:
Never shout "I got shotgun" unless you're prepared to open/close all the gates.
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:rotf:
I like your Daddy.
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So she's done well enough in this capitalist economy, with it's relatively restrained income taxes, to buy services from others in the lower strata and keep them employed.
Sounds suspiciously like "trickle-down" economics to me.
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Or you could just buy a Ford. :p
I would, but the Edge is too expensive for me right now.
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So she's done well enough in this capitalist economy, with it's relatively restrained income taxes, to buy services from others in the lower strata and keep them employed.
Sounds suspiciously like "trickle-down" economics to me.
Probably more like she "married well".
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Probably more like she "married well".
Yep. And he is likely ridding himself of her soon enough. She can't handle the good life because she needs victimhood. I hope he gives it to her.
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HockeyMom is following in DUmbass greenbriar's footsteps.
Brag about your stuff, and rub the DUmpmonkeys' noses in their miserable poverty.
Then swear that was the furthest thing from your mind.
I wonder if HockeyMom has a Glock.
Nah. She tried one once. Couldn't figure out how to open the cylinder to reload. :whistling:
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We used to live in a gated community....then daddy moved the fence.
:rotf:
By your definition I have spent most of my life in gated communities. Especially since there was always more than one house for the hands and their families. Love it.
Hell, we also had private ponds and some had private runways and hangars. So what if all was shared with cattle? :rofl:
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A high percentage of DUmpmonkeys have lived in a gated community.
They left when their time was served. :whistling:
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:rotf:
By your definition I have spent most of my life in gated communities. Especially since there was always more than one house for the hands and their families. Love it.
Hell, we also had private ponds and some had private runways and hangars. So what if all was shared with cattle? :rofl:
Way back, we had 13 ponds and half of a 4,000 runway. Daddy had a Mooney Executive 21 then....running thru cow stuff tends to dirty up a low wing plane. :-)