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Title: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: BattleHymn on September 14, 2011, 02:44:33 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4993708&mesg_id=4993750

Tonight, NY-9 experienced a temporary moment of sanity, before they get swallowed up by redistricting.  This is a pretty good sized campfire, and is totally worth a row over, if nothing, just to see all the kicking, biting, and screaming among the inhabitants:

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SpankMe   (261 posts)           Wed Sep-14-11 12:02 AM
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GOP's Bob Turner wins special election for Anthony Weiner's NY congressional seat
   
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Source: Breaking: MSNBC

GOP's Bob Turner wins special election for Anthony Weiner's NY congressional seat

No link yet.


And the idiocy continues.

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dennis4868   (1000+ posts)           Wed Sep-14-11 12:04 AM
Response to Original message
1. all I have to say...
   
is that voters in NY09 are ****ing stupid and will believe any lie you tell them...**** you all! another vote in the House to get rid of SS, Medicare, etc...**** YOU ALL!

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sethgrogen (59 posts)           Wed Sep-14-11 12:28 AM
Response to Reply #1
17. idiots in the district and idiots in the dem party leadership.
   
And we're stuck voting for Obama. Sucks.

A mole goes unchecked, but probably not unreported.

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RBInMaine (1000+ posts)           Wed Sep-14-11 12:07 AM
Response to Original message
2. SHITTY race, SHITTY issues, SHITTY candidates, just SHITTY. The people are the losers.
   
Edited on Wed Sep-14-11 12:11 AM by RBInMaine
The Dem was appointed instead of having a primary, and he was an incredibly shitty candidate. It was a narrow, old, small, angry, electorate where Jewish ethnic issues were exploited. So for a while the district gets a TeaPuke who will toe the line for Ryan and the
Medicare-Haters. Good for them. How sadly shitty.

Coakley Part II.  :rotf:

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tblue   (1000+ posts)           Wed Sep-14-11 01:54 AM
Response to Reply #9
38. Epic fail there. People aren't as afraid of Teapubs as we were hoping.
   
Anybody who thinks the Democrats can stay our current course and get a different result better wake up.

Sorry but it's true. What does this party stand for? I mean really and truly stand for? I freaking do not know so how can we expect voters in a swing district to know?

Further left!  Further left, I say!   :popcorn:

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gateley   (1000+ posts)           Wed Sep-14-11 12:10 AM
Response to Original message
4. I'm mad at Weiner all over again. His ego lost us a voice.
   
The Republicans had lots of money and propaganda in this race and used their favorite weapon, FEAR. Always a winner.   



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Wabbajack_ (668 posts)           Wed Sep-14-11 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #4
24. He should have stayed in office
   
He didn't brake any laws did he?

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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts)           Wed Sep-14-11 01:00 AM
Response to Reply #24
28. He should have kept his honker in his pants.
   
Thanks, Anthony.

I hope the "fun" was worth it.

 :nelson:



Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Mr Mannn on September 14, 2011, 02:49:02 AM
People! Head over there and read. There are way too many gems of despair!
H5 for posting this!
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: bijou on September 14, 2011, 03:01:29 AM
Ditto what Mr Mannn says.  :-)
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: diesel driver on September 14, 2011, 03:46:25 AM
This one is both black hole dense stupid, and bone-chilling truthful at the same time:

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tcaudilllg    Wed Sep-14-11 04:00 AM
Response to Reply #38
79. We stand for the gradual, egalitarian improvement of American living standards by means of enhanced technology, productivity, public services, and behavioral regulation.
   

The government is already doing that, via the tax code
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Toastedturningtidelegs on September 14, 2011, 06:03:32 AM
 :lmao: Their anti-semitism is so thinly veiled. They still don't understand the fact that, their Messiah lost them that seat with his position on Israel. :rotf:
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Mr Mannn on September 14, 2011, 06:15:02 AM
This is a heavy Jewish district and they voted in a Conservative Catholic over a Jewish liberal--over the issue of Obama and Israel...

Ladies and Gentlemen, liberal Jews have abandoned the democrats for the first time.
The tables have turned. Heck has frozen over. The worst has happened (well Ok, that's for 2012).

But when a liberal voter bloc abandons the libs, something amazing has happened. This is history, right here, right now!

Imagine if someone primaries Obama and...wins. then the Black vote is lost. Two voting constituencies are gone.
The unions poured tons of money. The DNC ran out the robo-calls...Nothing.  
The rats had far more money that the GOP candidate had, Union support, and a Jewish candidate.
everything failed.

stock up on popcorn, its gonna be a wild ride.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 14, 2011, 06:51:03 AM
There will be some slow driving and sad singing in DUmmieland today...the mighty dems have struck out.... :tongue:
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on September 14, 2011, 07:15:31 AM
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_la0258dJVO1qzmm04o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Karin on September 14, 2011, 07:21:41 AM
Behavioral regulation?   :mad: :bird:   Do you not realize that the American spirit is not quite dead yet? 

I'm rowing over. 
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: mark1 on September 14, 2011, 07:33:34 AM
I am Jewish, and life a few blocks form the district. There was more to this election than is being reported.

Many of the jews in this district are Orthodox Jews, who are by nature very conservative, and only vote democrat because 90% of this city is democrat, and they "go with the flow" in order to stay connected to the broader political culture in the city. The democratic candidate was a Orthodox Jew, who nevertheless voted for gay marriage in the new york state legislature, where he was a member. His vote was one of the deciding votes that caused the law to pass. This did not go over well with the Orthodox Jewish population in NYC. The republican candidate was a Conservative Irish Catholic, who was against gay marriage.

Except for Ed Koch, the former mayor of NYC, endorsing the republican, I did not see many advertisements mentioning Israel as a reason to vote republican. But I saw many ads in predominately jewish media in the days before the election urging jews to vote republican over the gay marriage issue. Those ads were signed by many rabbis.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Karin on September 14, 2011, 07:36:32 AM
Thanks for the reporting, Mark1, and welcome.

From the DUmp, look at this:

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tcaudilllg  (825 posts)        Wed Sep-14-11 03:42 AM
Response to Reply #65
66. Hmm... why would a single district have most of the state's Orthodox Jews?
 No I don't think they get to vote their interests. Their lobby is illegitimate because it has been unfairly created specifically to empower them.

What an asshole.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: mark1 on September 14, 2011, 07:43:16 AM
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tcaudilllg  (825 posts)        Wed Sep-14-11 03:42 AM
Response to Reply #65
66. Hmm... why would a single district have most of the state's Orthodox Jews?
 No I don't think they get to vote their interests. Their lobby is illegitimate because it has been unfairly created specifically to empower them.

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

That ignorant Dummie doesn't know that there are more Orthodox Jews in NYC than in any city in the world outside Israel, and there are more Orthodox Jews in brooklyn than in any other borough in NYC. And most of those people are NOT in NY9!

We will worry about our own lobbies, you worry about your own candidate getting blown out in 2012.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: franksolich on September 14, 2011, 07:43:40 AM
Thanks for the reporting, Mark1, and welcome.

From the DUmp, look at this:

What an asshole.

Uh, aren't there congressional districts in blue states gerrymandered to have a certain racial majority?
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: mark1 on September 14, 2011, 07:48:17 AM
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Uh, aren't there congressional districts in blue states gerrymandered to have a certain racial majority?

An African American majority.

NY9 was not a gerrymandered seat towards any race, and there were not that many jews in it when it was first arranged.

Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Ballygrl on September 14, 2011, 07:56:43 AM
I am Jewish, and life a few blocks form the district. There was more to this election than is being reported.

Many of the jews in this district are Orthodox Jews, who are by nature very conservative, and only vote democrat because 90% of this city is democrat, and they "go with the flow" in order to stay connected to the broader political culture in the city. The democratic candidate was a Orthodox Jew, who nevertheless voted for gay marriage in the new york state legislature, where he was a member. His vote was one of the deciding votes that caused the law to pass. This did not go over well with the Orthodox Jewish population in NYC. The republican candidate was a Conservative Irish Catholic, who was against gay marriage.

Except for Ed Koch, the former mayor of NYC, endorsing the republican, I did not see many advertisements mentioning Israel as a reason to vote republican. But I saw many ads in predominately jewish media in the days before the election urging jews to vote republican over the gay marriage issue. Those ads were signed by many rabbis.

That makes sense!
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Ballygrl on September 14, 2011, 07:59:03 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

That ignorant Dummie doesn't know that there are more Orthodox Jews in NYC than in any city in the world outside Israel, and there are more Orthodox Jews in brooklyn than in any other borough in NYC. And most of those people are NOT in NY9!

We will worry about our own lobbies, you worry about your own candidate getting blown out in 2012.

Yep!
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Erasmus on September 14, 2011, 08:04:01 AM
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No I don't think they get to vote their interests. Their lobby is illegitimate because it has been unfairly created specifically to empower them.

What?  Now the Joooooooooooooooos shouldn't be allowed to vote.  Is that what you're saying, Hitler?


Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: franksolich on September 14, 2011, 08:04:53 AM
What?  Now the Joooooooooooooooos shouldn't be allowed to vote.  Is that what you're saying, Hitler?




Apparently, sir, that's exactly what the primitives are saying.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Erasmus on September 14, 2011, 08:31:31 AM
Apparently, sir, that's exactly what the primitives are saying.

Well, it was just yesterday that Nadin accused the right of being fascist eugenics supporters...  too funny.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Karin on September 14, 2011, 08:46:27 AM
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leftynyc (1000+ posts)      Wed Sep-14-11 05:30 AM
Response to Reply #66
93. Who the **** are you
 to tell people what their interests should be? Your statement about the lobby is absolutley moronic. What about the NRA, AARP? Think they should be disolved because they were specifically created to empower the pro-gun, pro-senior people? Or it just the Jews that are the devils here? Are you even thinking out what you're saying?

I think it's a little surprising that the offending post is still there.  It is quite bigotted.  "Jews don't get to vote."  Wow.  Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you, a democrat.  A liberal one. 
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Erasmus on September 14, 2011, 08:48:20 AM
Bye-bye, leftynyc.  Such rational thinking doesn't fly at DU.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on September 14, 2011, 09:07:32 AM
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SoapBox (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Sep-13-11 11:16 PM
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8. Too bad...
   
and amazing that people will vote in a crazy.

It's all about getting that "n" word out of THEIR White House.
Yeah, it has nothing to do with Obama nose diving the economy.  ::)
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Erasmus on September 14, 2011, 09:20:12 AM
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8. Too bad...
  
and amazing that people will vote in a crazy.

It's all about getting that "n" word out of THEIR White House.

Yes, because liberal ideology is so successful that people HAVE to be hating the president solely because of his skin color.  That's it, Spanky.  You nailed it.  It couldn't be because:

1) He's anti-Israel
2) He's anti-business
3) He's anti-gun
4) He's anti-Christian
5) He's anti-Constitution
6) He wants to raise taxes
7) He wants to increase unsustainable spending
8) He's been in office for three years, two of which with a Democrat-controlled Congress and the economy is still tanking and he's still acting like he's only been in office 30 days (Bush's fault)
9) He's anti-American and sat in the fraud Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years listening to "god damn America!!!!" over and over.
10) He thinks raising taxes will increase employment
11) He's pro-mooslim, if not a closet mooslim.  At the very least, because of his deadbeat family, he at the very least loves his mooslim brethren.
12) He's pro-illegal alien
13) He's anti-borders

It simply CAN'T be ANY of those things that would make people want to revolt against der Führer.  It HAS to be because he's black.  Yep, that's it exactly.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Rebel on September 14, 2011, 09:26:43 AM
I think it's a little surprising that the offending post is still there.  It is quite bigotted.  "Jews don't get to vote."  Wow.  Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you, a democrat.  A liberal one.  

That little exchange is going to be EXACTLY how it turns out with blacks when they start voting Republican. Democrats true colors come out when they start losing. Look at how they treat Palin and Bachmann, ALL because they're women conservatives. They're slave-masters, and when one of their special interest groups start venturing off the plantation, they grab the whips.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Erasmus on September 14, 2011, 09:30:26 AM
That little exchange is going to be EXACTLY how it turns out with blacks when they start voting Republican. Democrats true colors come out when they start losing. Look at how they treat Palin and Bachmann, ALL because they're women conservatives. They're slave-masters, and when one of their special interest groups start venturing off the plantation, they grab the whips.

Yep, they're all for women's right to vote until they vote (R).  I personally have wondered at why so many Jewish people would vote Democrat given the pro-mooslim stance of many Democrats, but I don't begrudge them their vote or wish they were burning in ovens like this sicko seems to be doing.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 14, 2011, 09:45:15 AM
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SpankMe   (261 posts)

Done and done.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Doubleplusungood on September 14, 2011, 10:00:57 AM
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tblue   (1000+ posts)           Wed Sep-14-11 01:54 AM
Response to Reply #9
38. Epic fail there. People aren't as afraid of Teapubs as we were hoping.
   
Anybody who thinks the Democrats can stay our current course and get a different result better wake up.

Sorry but it's true. What does this party stand for? I mean really and truly stand for? I freaking do not know so how can we expect voters in a swing district to know?

No, the real problem you have tblew is that thanks to the ultra marxist trio of Obama, Witch Pelosi, and Reid with two years of total control have shown everyone beyond a reasonable doubt just what your party does stand for.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Doubleplusungood on September 14, 2011, 10:06:00 AM
Bye-bye, leftynyc.  Such rational thinking doesn't fly at DU.

True story; my one attempt to post at the DUmp got me banned in just two posts because I disagreed with the notion that Bush ordered Nick Berg beheaded for a political boost. I posted nothing that would indicate I wasn't a primitive other than that I didn't believe their conspiracy of the day. It was therefor a banable offense to disagree with the hateful notion (and only a few days after the Berg tragedy) that Bush essentially murdered Nick Berg. I might even still have the thread saved on my old computer.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Karin on September 14, 2011, 10:35:07 AM
That's crazy, DPUG!  WTF?   It's amazing that there's anybody left over there to pay for $kinner's vacations. 
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Doubleplusungood on September 14, 2011, 10:45:18 AM
That's crazy, DPUG!  WTF?   It's amazing that there's anybody left over there to pay for $kinner's vacations. 

Later today I'm going to dig around in my garage and see if my old hard drive still works, and if it does still have that file. I'll post it here if it turns up.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on September 14, 2011, 11:03:14 AM
Thanks for the reporting, Mark1, and welcome.

From the DUmp, look at this:

What an asshole.

What about the majority-minority districts that are mandated throughout the south?
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on September 14, 2011, 11:27:50 AM
Oh, by the way, DUmmies. Turner was CEO of Multimedia Entertainment a few years ago, and was the guy that gave Rush his TV show. Have fun with that.


We sure are...

Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: marv on September 14, 2011, 11:30:22 AM
Yeah, it has nothing to do with Obama nose diving the economy.  ::)
It's not nosediving, the economy is simply in a negative climb........(http://www.conservativecave.com/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)...

If you have your head in the sand (http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Bob-Turner-Wins-NY-9-9th-Congressional-Race-129777533.html?w)...
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(snip)

The White House said Wednesday it does not view the defeat as a referendum on the president.

White House spokesman Jay Carney says special elections are unique and don't reveal much about the outcome of future regularly scheduled votes.

"You can make those predictions and look foolish in 14 months or not," Carney said. "I'm simply saying we do not view them that way."

(snip)

...your butt is still sticking up!

Now let's see how this plays out in Florida........
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Splashdown on September 14, 2011, 11:32:44 AM
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aquart  (1000+ posts)        Wed Sep-14-11 06:52 AM
Response to Reply #28
99. Martin Luther King, Jr. Adulterer.
 JFK. Adulterer.

RFK. Adulterer.

FDR. Adulterer.

Wake up and pray the next guy you elect is stepping out on his wife.


My favorite post so far...
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Doubleplusungood on September 14, 2011, 11:37:10 AM


My favorite post so far...

In DUmmy world you fail upwards.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: BEG on September 14, 2011, 11:37:33 AM


My favorite post so far...

When did they elect Martin Luther King?
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Splashdown on September 14, 2011, 11:41:09 AM
When did they elect Martin Luther King?

heh.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Ballygrl on September 14, 2011, 12:24:13 PM
Ed Koch was interviewed on Joe Crummey's radio show and he said this, when Koch endorsed Turner he got a call from Weprin asking him why he didn't get Koch's endorsement, and Koch said a message has to be sent to Obama, your winning won't send that message but Turner winning would.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Erasmus on September 14, 2011, 12:44:22 PM
Ed Koch was interviewed on Joe Crummey's radio show and he said this, when Koch endorsed Turner he got a call from Weprin asking him why he didn't get Koch's endorsement, and Koch said a message has to be sent to Obama, your winning won't send that message but Turner winning would.

So did Koch endorse Weiner in the last election?
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Ballygrl on September 14, 2011, 01:02:32 PM
So did Koch endorse Weiner in the last election?

I have no idea, but Koch doesn't walk lock and step with the Democrats especially when it comes to Israel.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: delilahmused on September 14, 2011, 01:47:47 PM
These people are gonna go through withdrawals when they can't use racism as an excuse for not getting their way.

Cindie
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: zeitgeist on September 14, 2011, 03:14:42 PM
So did Koch endorse Weiner in the last election?

Isn't he one of the infamous Koch brothers?   :fuelfire:   And who is the Crummey Joe guy? 
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: dandi on September 14, 2011, 03:26:40 PM
Their agony sustains me.

I hope it lasts.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Ballygrl on September 14, 2011, 03:31:20 PM
Isn't he one of the infamous Koch brothers?   :fuelfire:   And who is the Crummey Joe guy? 

LOL, Ed Koch is the former NY Mayor, and Joe Crummey is I guess you can say a Moderate Republican who has a 2 hour show on WABC that's on before Rush.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Erasmus on September 14, 2011, 03:55:58 PM
Isn't he one of the infamous Koch brothers?   :fuelfire:   And who is the Crummey Joe guy? 

Have no idea.  I just thought it would be funny that a Koch would endorse a Weiner an such an anti-gay rights district.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: FreeBorn on September 14, 2011, 04:25:12 PM
Quote of the day, Debbie Wasserman Schultz~

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/40334

 :lmao: I am licking my fingers, that was so tasty...
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Duke Nukum on September 14, 2011, 04:38:29 PM
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dennis4868   (1000+ posts)           Wed Sep-14-11 12:04 AM
Response to Original message
1. all I have to say...
   
is that voters in NY09 are ****ing stupid and will believe any lie you tell them...**** you all! another vote in the House to get rid of SS, Medicare, etc...**** YOU ALL!
You believed in Hope and Change(TM).  Just sayin'.

A lot of you also believed John Kerry would jump out from behind a couch on inauguration day 2004 and have Bush/Cheney arrested for ???

You people believe a lot of lies so who are you to judge what NY09 believed. How would you know?
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: USA4ME on September 14, 2011, 04:38:42 PM
Bye-bye, leftynyc.  Such rational thinking doesn't fly at DU.

Make no mistake, the leftynyc primitive hates Jews as much as the next primitive, she just knows they have to cover their tracks to some degree on a public forum.

.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: miskie on September 14, 2011, 04:42:26 PM
When did they elect Martin Luther King?

Maybe this primitive is actually a mole from the alternate universe in the television show Fringe ?

(http://joshedwards.com/wp-content/uploads/20100517_fringe_06-400x220.png)
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: GOBUCKS on September 14, 2011, 04:56:12 PM
It must be a little scary for moonbats when they remember that both algore and John F'n won 80% of the Jewish vote.

Most places, the Jewish vote is too small to matter, but in places like New York and Florida it's important.

I'd still be shocked if the Kenyan failed to carry New York. Very few Americans live south of Albany.

Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: FreeBorn on September 14, 2011, 05:04:45 PM
It must be a little scary for moonbats when they remember that both algore and John F'n won 80% of the Jewish vote.

Most places, the Jewish vote is too small to matter, but in places like New York and Florida it's important.

I'd still be shocked if the Kenyan failed to carry New York. Very few Americans live south of Albany.


Yep. Damn straight those are important concentrations of votes.

(http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/namerica/usstates/electorl.gif)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wYOqE4H4V6U/R1WIudUn7aI/AAAAAAAAAIo/OtgqQIv5Ibg/s1600/jewish3.JPG)
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Freeper on September 14, 2011, 05:23:07 PM
True story; my one attempt to post at the DUmp got me banned in just two posts because I disagreed with the notion that Bush ordered Nick Berg beheaded for a political boost. I posted nothing that would indicate I wasn't a primitive other than that I didn't believe their conspiracy of the day. It was therefor a banable offense to disagree with the hateful notion (and only a few days after the Berg tragedy) that Bush essentially murdered Nick Berg. I might even still have the thread saved on my old computer.

I think that was where they spotted the white plastic chairs that you can buy at Wal Mart, and were saying that the chairs proved that it was CIA agents and not the peaceful loving Muslims who sawed his head off.

Yep it was, http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1604968
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Duke Nukum on September 14, 2011, 05:59:56 PM
What?  Now the Joooooooooooooooos shouldn't be allowed to vote.  Is that what you're saying, Hitler?



I think it is simply that the "Joooooooooooooooos" shouldn't be allowed to vote anything but liberals.

Multi-cultural tolerceptance is all about counting votes.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: BattleHymn on September 14, 2011, 09:25:16 PM
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s233/ignitethefire65/LLY.jpg)

Weprin loses, and the day after, stock in the company that sells Prozac goes up.  Coincidence?  :popcorn:
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Duke Nukum on September 14, 2011, 09:55:10 PM
It just struck me, the DUmmies are way more upset about this than they were when the United States was attacked on 9/11/2001. In fact, within a few days, they were dancing on Barbara Olson's grave. And a short time later, they were saying she never died.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: delilahmused on September 14, 2011, 11:19:58 PM
Reasons the Democrat Lost the Election:

1. Gerrymandering
2. Racism
3. the joooooooooos
4. Diebold
5. Racism
6. the joooooooooos
7. Republicans stole it
8. Racism
9. the joooooooooooos
10. Nazis
11. Racism
12. the joooooooooooos
13. Too much meat in Weiner's tweets
14. Racism
15. the joooooooooooooooooooos

Cindie
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Skul on September 14, 2011, 11:26:35 PM
Yep. Damn straight those are important concentrations of votes.

(http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/namerica/usstates/electorl.gif)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wYOqE4H4V6U/R1WIudUn7aI/AAAAAAAAAIo/OtgqQIv5Ibg/s1600/jewish3.JPG)
Well, that sucks.
Why can't I have some where I live?
Come down this way, guys.
We don't care if you're Jewish.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Mike220 on September 15, 2011, 12:52:35 AM
Hey DUmmies! How does it feel? Cause yes, yes you did...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-us2a9t0Nc40/TnGSfnP_vnI/AAAAAAAAAQs/t1Hm_HkuoDY/s800/5292_139121417008_750662008_3273124_7446116_n.jpg)


Suck it long, and suck it hard.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: franksolich on September 15, 2011, 03:16:35 AM
Oh my.

The lurking primitives are reading this thread and one hopes, weeping.

One hopes they weep a great deal.

:tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Karin on September 15, 2011, 07:32:53 AM
Did anyone hear the Rush Morning Update on the radio today?  He reported that Henry Waxman said that the Jews in NY-9 voted for the R because they "wanted to protect their wealth."    :o

Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Ballygrl on September 15, 2011, 07:42:16 AM
Quote of the day was yesterday and Ed Koch, said in reference to Debbie Wasserman Schultz's comment that the area was conservative, ignoring the fact that it's the 1st time a Republican was elected there, Koch said "she's a dope she's a dope she's a dope".
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on September 15, 2011, 08:29:04 AM
Did anyone hear the Rush Morning Update on the radio today?  He reported that Henry Waxman said that the Jews in NY-9 voted for the R because they "wanted to protect their wealth."    :o



I don't get the morning update unti later, but I heard something similar already today.  Waxman is a clown.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 15, 2011, 08:38:20 AM
  the Jews in NY-9 voted for the R because they "wanted to protect their wealth."  

hmmmmmm....2 ways to look at that.....they got their wealth (think slumlords) by voting for free spending democrat welfare schemers...and now that they are about to have "THEIR" wealth redistributed....they vote republican.

Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Wineslob on September 15, 2011, 09:46:13 AM
This thread made me all warm and fuzzy.     :yahoo:
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: fence-sitter on September 15, 2011, 10:15:16 AM
Hello, first post here.

I really want to know why the D's lost this seat. How big is the Jewish vote here I wonder. I don't see exactly what Obama could have done to cause such a big swing in Jewish support. His very pro-Isreal. Too much so I think. So what's up? Sounds to me like a lot of spin from both sides here.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 15, 2011, 10:19:35 AM
Hello, first post here.

I really want to know why the D's lost this seat. How big is the Jewish vote here I wonder. I don't see exactly what Obama could have done to cause such a big swing in Jewish support. His very pro-Isreal. Too much so I think. So what's up? Sounds to me like a lot of spin from both sides here.

Were you too drunk to feel the bump when they went under the bus?
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Celtic Rose on September 15, 2011, 10:20:21 AM
Hello, first post here.

I really want to know why the D's lost this seat. How big is the Jewish vote here I wonder. I don't see exactly what Obama could have done to cause such a big swing in Jewish support. His very pro-Isreal. Too much so I think. So what's up? Sounds to me like a lot of spin from both sides here.

Perhaps you could give some evidence for why you think he is overly pro-Israel.  It seems to me that telling them that they should move there borders back to where they were 40 years ago is a very supportive move.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: fence-sitter on September 15, 2011, 10:27:30 AM
Has that not always been the position of all Administrations for decades. Most foreign countries agree also including all the EU. Why are Jewish voters suddenly so annoyed with Obama. It makes no sence to me.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Wineslob on September 15, 2011, 10:29:20 AM
Hello, first post here.

I really want to know why the D's lost this seat. How big is the Jewish vote here I wonder. I don't see exactly what Obama could have done to cause such a big swing in Jewish support. His very pro-Isreal. Too much so I think. So what's up? Sounds to me like a lot of spin from both sides here.


Quote
Has that not always been the position of all Administrations for decades. Most foreign countries agree also including all the EU. Why are Jewish voters suddenly so annoyed with Obama. It makes no sence to me.



Oh dear Lord........ :thatsright:
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: fence-sitter on September 15, 2011, 10:34:40 AM



Oh dear Lord........ :thatsright:

whoops sorry.

PS I don't post on DU, they banned me twice. I'm very moderate politically but I am not an expert on Mid-East issues.  

PPS. This place is a lot more intimidating than DU to post on you know.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 15, 2011, 10:36:21 AM



Oh dear Lord........ :thatsright:

 :lol:
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Celtic Rose on September 15, 2011, 10:48:45 AM
Has that not always been the position of all Administrations for decades. Most foreign countries agree also including all the EU. Why are Jewish voters suddenly so annoyed with Obama. It makes no sence to me.

No, in previous talks, US politicians have mentioned the 1967 borders as the goal of the Palestinians, but no American has ever specifically told Israel that they support Israel returning to those borders.  It is possible that the EU supports those borders, but I don't really care what the EU supports, especially now when it appears to be disintegrating. 

Also, a poster from the are said that Homosexual Marriage was another major factor in where the votes of the Orthodox Jewish community went. 
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: fence-sitter on September 15, 2011, 10:59:12 AM
No, in previous talks, US politicians have mentioned the 1967 borders as the goal of the Palestinians, but no American has ever specifically told Israel that they support Israel returning to those borders.  It is possible that the EU supports those borders, but I don't really care what the EU supports, especially now when it appears to be disintegrating. 

Also, a poster from the are said that Homosexual Marriage was another major factor in where the votes of the Orthodox Jewish community went. 
   
Ok I see, thanks for explaining the conservative view here. Yes I know about the Gay Marriage issue but Obama does not support gay marriage.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 15, 2011, 11:03:35 AM
   
Ok I see, thanks for explaining the conservative view here. Yes I know about the Gay Marriage issue but Obama does not support gay marriage.

But anything and everything gay short of that is OK....he'll use gay marriage as a carrot later.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: fence-sitter on September 15, 2011, 11:19:33 AM
But anything and everything gay short of that is OK....he'll use gay marriage as a carrot later.

that's true, he would have went on to legalize gay marriage through the back door (pardon the pun) much like he did with the Amnesty I'm sure but this election result in NY means he is finished. There is now no longer a snowballs chance in hell he will win re-election.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Splashdown on September 15, 2011, 11:20:47 AM
that's true, he would have went on to legalize gay marriage through the back door (pardon the pun) much like he did with the Amnesty I'm sure but this election result in NY means he is finished. There is now no longer a snowballs chance in hell he will win re-election.

...from your keyboard to God's inbox!
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: fence-sitter on September 15, 2011, 11:36:09 AM
lol, seriously though how is he going to win swing states with a dead economy when his party can't even win a district they have held for nearly a century. If I were a Dem, I would be tearing  my hair out also and calling for his immediate resignation.

We are not just looking at the end of Obama but potentially the end of the Democratic party itself, that's how important this election result is.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Chris_ on September 15, 2011, 11:39:42 AM
We are not just looking at the end of Obama but potentially the end of the Democratic party itself, that's how important this election result is.
I wouldn't go that far, but it sure would be nice to wave goodbye to the Obamas on January 1, 2013.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 15, 2011, 11:40:44 AM
lol, seriously though how is he going to win swing states with a dead economy when his party can't even win a district they have held for nearly a century. If I were a Dem, I would be tearing  my hair out also and calling for his immediate resignation.

We are not just looking at the end of Obama but potentially the end of the Democratic party itself, that's how important this election result is.

 :whistling: Happy days are here again the sky above is ....... :whistling:

Good! There will be no more SKITTLE shitting unicorns flying overhead any more.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: jukin on September 15, 2011, 11:41:58 AM
Never take what 0bama says as what he will do. In reality the two are quite opposite.

He says he against gay marriage but then (for the first time I know of any president) refused to defend the law because HE determined it to be unconstitutional which is the job of the SCOTUS.  That is pro gay marriage.

He says he pro-Israel but he gave the paliosimians their number one negotiation point while asking nothing of them in return. That is throwing Israel under the bus.

The best rule you can use is that if 0bama says something for public consumption it is a lie. Whne he speaks to a protected class or union hall his word is gospel.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: jukin on September 15, 2011, 11:43:11 AM
:whistling: Happy days are here again the sky above is ....... :whistling:

Good! There will be no more SKITTLE shitting unicorns flying overhead any more.

Didn't you hear, all the Unicorns died in a terrible fire.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Doc on September 15, 2011, 11:53:22 AM
lol, seriously though how is he going to win swing states with a dead economy when his party can't even win a district they have held for nearly a century. If I were a Dem, I would be tearing my hair out also and calling for his immediate resignation.

We are not just looking at the end of Obama but potentially the end of the Democratic party itself, that's how important this election result is.

Assuming that you aren't using a stealth proxy, and really are posting from Seoul, South Korea, it is understandable that your view of American politics might be somewhat limited.

That said, you're correct that this election has every Democrat (with the possible exception of those like Nancy Pelosi) very concerned for their future......and rightly so.  those residing inside the beltway (Washington, DC), and in the elite east coast media have absolutely no idea of how much abject hatred is out there among the voters for Obama primarily, and by association his party........due totally to his policies and actions, as well as his condescending attitude........

Malignant narcissist that he is, it will never happen, but his best move would to pull an LBJ, and simply not run for another term......it would save him a great deal of embarrassment......

doc
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 15, 2011, 11:53:54 AM
Didn't you hear, all the Unicorns died in a terrible fire.

The US ARMY on Bataan ate their mules and horses before they surrendered and were taken on The Bataan Death March.....so now DUmmies are cooking and eating their unicorns....when does the parade start..... :-)
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: 67 Rover on September 15, 2011, 11:55:58 AM
I wouldn't go that far, but it sure would be nice to wave goodbye to the Obamas on January 1, 2013.

A few weeks early , but I can go with that. It will allow time for fumigation.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Ballygrl on September 15, 2011, 12:32:06 PM
Has that not always been the position of all Administrations for decades. Most foreign countries agree also including all the EU. Why are Jewish voters suddenly so annoyed with Obama. It makes no sence to me.

He's thrown Israel under the bus, and do you think I really care what the EU feels about Israel? And actually it's most voters and racial and Religious groups who are mad at Obama.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Karin on September 15, 2011, 12:35:34 PM
Also don't forget how rude Obama was to Netanyahu.  I was so ashamed and embarrassed for my country. 

And fence-sitter, please don't be intimidated posting here.  We don't ban people for speaking their mind, like DU. 
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Lacarnut on September 15, 2011, 12:51:58 PM
Also don't forget how rude Obama was to Netanyahu.  I was so ashamed and embarrassed for my country. 


He snubbed an ally and rolled out the red carpet for a Chinese Commie.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Erasmus on September 15, 2011, 12:55:32 PM
He snubbed an ally and rolled out the red carpet for a Chinese Commie.

It's because he's a closet mooslim.  I know people that assert that Obama is a mooslim sort of get treated like birthers, but I'm only half joking.  His mooslim father would be proud of him, helping Al Queda and Hamas achieve their goals as he has lately.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: thundley4 on September 15, 2011, 01:13:14 PM
He snubbed an ally and rolled out the red carpet for a Chinese Commie.

Yep. There was one time he was having a meeting with Netanyahu and left to go have lunch with Moochelle , while Bebe was left to twiddle his thumbs.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: fence-sitter on September 15, 2011, 01:45:27 PM
He's thrown Israel under the bus, and do you think I really care what the EU feels about Israel? And actually it's most voters and racial and Religious groups who are mad at Obama.

You may not care what the EU thinks but I guarantee you the Israelis do. The EU is not something to be laughed at, in the next few months it is going to become The United States Of Europe.

PS. I'm a EFL teacher in Seoul, but I'm American. There are thousands of us Obama refugees here you know. Why are you looking up my ISP anyway. Ok, I admit it Yeah I'm a mole from DU.  lol look at me molein around on CC  :rofl:  :panic: :rofl: :rotf:
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Celtic Rose on September 15, 2011, 01:49:30 PM
You may not care what the EU thinks but I guarantee you the Israelis do. The EU is not something to be laughed at, in the next few months it is going to become The United States Of Europe.

PS. I'm a EFL teacher in Seoul, but I'm American. There are thousands of us Obama refugees here you know. Why are you looking up my ISP anyway. Ok, I admit it Yeah I'm a mole from DU.  lol look at me molein around on CC  :rofl:  :panic: :rofl: :rotf:

I sincerely doubt that the EU is going increase in power in the near future.  Several of their states are teetering on the edge economic collapse, and the stronger member states (namely Germany and France) are hesitant to take any financial risks to save them.  Several states are very upset about the fact that the value of the Euro is being dragged down by the poor economies in other countries. 

Also, the Israelis may be concerned about the views of Europe, but I doubt that they have any intention of reducing their borders to keep the EU happy...
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Wineslob on September 15, 2011, 01:58:56 PM
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You may not care what the EU thinks but I guarantee you the Israelis do. The EU is not something to be laughed at, in the next few months it is going to become The United States Of Europe.


Only the EU thinks highly of it'self.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Mike220 on September 15, 2011, 02:14:22 PM
You may not care what the EU thinks but I guarantee you the Israelis do.

How many Israelis do you know? By and large, no they don't outside the far left of the Israeli political. Most Israelis care for Israel first and could give two shits about the EU as the Euros haven't been supportive of Israel for more than a generation.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: fence-sitter on September 15, 2011, 02:29:09 PM
The Germans are having a little fit, they think too much and it's been a long time since so much was expected of them but they will do the right thing in the end and issue Eurobonds to save Europe. Eurobonds mean complete economic integration there is simply no getting around it. The same forces that led America to become a federal union are now occuring in Europe.
 
Europe is extremely powerful; militarily, diplomatically, culturally and above all economically. Israels national security and economic future is highly dependent on Europe much more so than the US and one day Israel will seek to join the EU.
 
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 15, 2011, 02:31:06 PM
The Germans are having a little fit, they think too much and it's been a long time since so much was expected of them but they will do the right thing in the end and issue Eurobonds to save Europe. Eurobonds mean complete economic integration there is simply no getting around it. The same forces that led America to become a federal union are now occuring in Europe.
 
Europe is extremely powerful; militarily, diplomatically, culturally and above all economically. Israels national security and economic future is highly dependent on Europe much more so than the US and one day Israel will seek to join the EU.
 


 :stoner: :stoner: :stoner:

Put down the bong and ssssllloooooooowwwwwwwwllllllllllyyyyyyy back away from it.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Ballygrl on September 15, 2011, 02:33:09 PM
You may not care what the EU thinks but I guarantee you the Israelis do. The EU is not something to be laughed at, in the next few months it is going to become The United States Of Europe.

PS. I'm a EFL teacher in Seoul, but I'm American. There are thousands of us Obama refugees here you know. Why are you looking up my ISP anyway. Ok, I admit it Yeah I'm a mole from DU.  lol look at me molein around on CC  :rofl:  :panic: :rofl: :rotf:

How am I looking up your ISP? oh and good moling means never giving yourself away.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: jukin on September 15, 2011, 02:33:21 PM
The odds are far greater that the EU explodes in the next six months.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: fence-sitter on September 15, 2011, 02:39:25 PM
EU membership for Israel

Although Israel is not located in Europe, it considers itself culturally part thereof.[8] This perception is widely shared in Europe; this situation is similar to that of Cyprus, which is already an EU member state. Israel thus is a member in many European transnational federations and frameworks and takes part in many European sporting events.[9] Various Israeli ministers have expressed that they would like to see Israel in the EU. The Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, who visited Israel in February 2010, said that his "greatest desire" was to see Israel join the European Union.[10] The European Union's High Representative for Common Foreign and Security Policy, Javier Solana, stated in 2009 that Israel had a very significant relationship with the EU, amounting almost to full cooperation through participation in the EU's programmes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_%E2%80%93_European_Union_relations#EU_membership_for_Israel

Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 15, 2011, 02:44:18 PM
The odds are far greater that the EU explodes in the next six months.

I've seen articles that indicate that the EU is a lot closer to all-out civil war in its member states, than most everyone realizes.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Carl on September 15, 2011, 03:12:16 PM
You may not care what the EU thinks but I guarantee you the Israelis do. The EU is not something to be laughed at, in the next few months it is going to become The United States Of Europe.

PS. I'm a EFL teacher in Seoul, but I'm American. There are thousands of us Obama refugees here you know. Why are you looking up my ISP anyway. Ok, I admit it Yeah I'm a mole from DU.  lol look at me molein around on CC  :rofl:  :panic: :rofl: :rotf:

Staff members check all ISPs for repeat trolls and spammers.
Many of the latter come from Asian origins.
Nothing but a routine look is all.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Wineslob on September 15, 2011, 04:28:01 PM
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Europe is extremely powerful; militarily, diplomatically, culturally and above all economically.

Who's bases are those, anyway?   :whistling:

I guess countries going bankrupt dosen't count?
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: Odin's Hand on September 15, 2011, 04:38:14 PM
Ah yes, the mighty French army with all those combat-experienced NCOs!
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: wasp69 on September 15, 2011, 05:41:30 PM
Europe is extremely powerful; militarily, diplomatically, culturally and above all economically.

Really?  What makes you think that?
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 15, 2011, 05:50:53 PM
How much cash aid does Europe give Israel each year? ...and how does it compare to the US aid given.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: thundley4 on September 15, 2011, 05:54:00 PM
How much cash aid does Europe give Israel each year? ...and how does it compare to the US aid given.


How much of NATO's budget comes from the US?
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 15, 2011, 06:04:04 PM
How much of NATO's budget comes from the US?

Enough that the Europeeings can have their socialist cake and eat it too.
Title: Re: DUmmies lose NY-9, causing weeping, gnashing of teeth
Post by: BattleHymn on September 15, 2011, 06:36:12 PM
You want Isreal to rely on Europe's assessment of a situation to protect them, fence-sitter?  Ain't gonna happen with Bibi around.

Fence-sitter, what are your thoughts on this article?:  http://www.khouse.org/articles/1997/11/  (NSFAS)*









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