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Title: Fourth-Trimester Abortion
Post by: thundley4 on September 13, 2011, 03:47:53 PM
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Fourth-Trimester Abortion
September 13, 2011 10:43 A.M.
By Mark Steyn   
From the Court of Queen’s Bench (the appellate court) in Alberta:

The Wetaskiwin, Alta., woman convicted of infanticide for killing her newborn son, was given a three-year suspended sentence Friday by an Edmonton Court of Queen’s Bench judge.

Katrina Effert was 19 on April 13, 2005, when she secretly gave birth in her parents’ home, strangled the baby boy with her underwear and threw the body over a fence into a neighbour’s yard…

Effert will have to abide by conditions for the next three years but she won’t spend time behind bars for strangling her newborn son.

Indeed. As Judge Joanne Veit puts it:

“While many Canadians undoubtedly view abortion as a less than ideal solution to unprotected sex and unwanted pregnancy, they generally understand, accept and sympathize with the onerous demands pregnancy and childbirth exact from mothers, especially mothers without support,” she writes… “Naturally, Canadians are grieved by an infant’s death, especially at the hands of the infant’s mother, but Canadians also grieve for the mother.”

Gotcha. So a superior court judge in a relatively civilized jurisdiction is happy to extend the principles underlying legalized abortion in order to mitigate the killing of a legal person – that’s to say, someone who has managed to make it to the post-fetus stage. How long do those mitigating factors apply? I mean, “onerous demands”-wise, the first month of a newborn’s life is no picnic for the mother. How about six months in? The terrible twos?
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/277027/fourth-trimester-abortion-mark-steyn

The same thing has happened here when failed abortions have resulted in living babies that are allowed to suffer and die.
Title: Re: Fourth-Trimester Abortion
Post by: Rugnuts on September 13, 2011, 03:52:51 PM
would someone else get jail time if they took her underwear and strangled her to death and tossed her over the same fence?

probably.
Title: Re: Fourth-Trimester Abortion
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 13, 2011, 03:56:47 PM
3 year suspended sentence for a Fourth-Trimester Abortion...is that more screwy DUmmie math or open season on DUmmies between the ages of 0 and 100?
Title: Re: Fourth-Trimester Abortion
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 13, 2011, 06:08:04 PM
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"Naturally, Canadians are grieved by an infant’s death, especially at the hands of the infant’s mother, but Canadians also grieve for the mother.”

There's always been a joke that a man who murders his parents begs mercy from the court because he's an orphan.

This judge has literally made a joke of the law.
Title: Re: Fourth-Trimester Abortion
Post by: MrsSmith on September 13, 2011, 09:59:21 PM
There's always been a joke that a man who murders his parents begs mercy from the court because he's an orphan.

This judge has literally made a joke of the law.
I'm not sure I'd call infanticide a joke...even a sick one.  It's just flatly sick.  I'd be OK with the suspended sentence, though, if they sterilized her first.   :banghead:
Title: Re: Fourth-Trimester Abortion
Post by: compaqxp on September 15, 2011, 12:22:43 AM
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“While many Canadians undoubtedly view abortion as a less than ideal solution to unprotected sex and unwanted pregnancy, they generally understand, accept and sympathize with the onerous demands pregnancy and childbirth exact from mothers, especially mothers without support,” she writes… “Naturally, Canadians are grieved by an infant’s death, especially at the hands of the infant’s mother, but Canadians also grieve for the mother.”

 :mental:

I don't feel one bit bad for her. Why should I feel bad for someone that killed their child?

I'm in full disagreement with this Judge.

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secretly gave birth

How the hell does one "secretly gave birth"? How does someone not notice?

3 year suspended sentence for a Fourth-Trimester Abortion...is that more screwy DUmmie math or open season on DUmmies between the ages of 0 and 100?

Just the justice system at work.

:banghead:
Title: Re: Fourth-Trimester Abortion
Post by: Gina on September 15, 2011, 09:02:55 AM
Put a bullet in her worthless head. :mad:
Title: Re: Fourth-Trimester Abortion
Post by: Wineslob on September 15, 2011, 10:34:16 AM
Put a bullet in her worthless head. :mad:


+1
Title: Re: Fourth-Trimester Abortion
Post by: Gina on September 15, 2011, 12:21:40 PM

+1

Um you didn't +1 me  :tongue:
Title: Re: Fourth-Trimester Abortion
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 15, 2011, 01:38:27 PM
There are no words to describe how ****ed-up that is.  I was somewhat appalled when I first learned that courts tend to give more lenient sentences to parents who kill their children, who are utterly helpless and dependent on the parent, than they do to people who kill adults for (Wrong, but) more understandable reasons - drug deals gone bad, revenge for a financial screwing, etc. - but this totally takes the ****ing cake.
Title: Re: Fourth-Trimester Abortion
Post by: Wineslob on September 15, 2011, 02:08:36 PM
Um you didn't +1 me  :tongue:

Yeesh, wimmins always want'n sump'tin, Yo.
Title: Re: Fourth-Trimester Abortion
Post by: Gina on September 15, 2011, 03:29:24 PM
There are no words to describe how ****ed-up that is.  I was somewhat appalled when I first learned that courts tend to give more lenient sentences to parents who kill their children, who are utterly helpless and dependent on the parent, than they do to people who kill adults for (Wrong, but) more understandable reasons - drug deals gone bad, revenge for a financial screwing, etc. - but this totally takes the ****ing cake.

It's disgusting.  Their lives, being innocent, are worth more frankly than some ****ed up adult's.
Title: Re: Fourth-Trimester Abortion
Post by: cmypay on September 15, 2011, 05:03:24 PM
It's disgusting.  Their lives, being innocent, are worth more frankly than some ****ed up adult's.

Agreed.