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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: ScubaGuy on September 09, 2011, 03:43:43 PM
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She's off and wrong from the start.
Need to add engineer to her resume (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1909056)
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-09-11 04:39 PM
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On the blackout and the nature of the grid
A single error dumped oh eight million people into the darkness. To me this raises the issue of DISTRIBUTIVE energy generation. In fact, we might have to consider expanding this in a serious manner. I expect the industry to fight it, but in reality I should expect both to be part of the normal mix.
Things like this...nobody got killed, people mostly helped each other...also expose the thin veneer of technologically based civilization.
Oh and things are not fully back to normal. I was lucky to get cold cuts and cheese...but milk, cheese, even meat is not on shelves yet. Will get food out.
Anyone want to tell her the the grid is all about distributed generation?
:loser:
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I'm confused.
I was lucky to get cold cuts and cheese...but milk, cheese, even meat is not on shelves yet.
Was nadin able to get cheese, or unable to get cheese?
Would you know, Banned or Jake? Is one able, or not able, to get cheese in your neck of the woods?
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I'm confused.
Was nadin able to get cheese, or unable to get cheese?
Would you know, Banned or Jake? Is one able, or not able, to get cheese in your neck of the woods?
Hey, they think you can both raise taxes AND create jobs, what's wrong with both getting cheese and cheese not being available at the same time?
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Get your Nadin "Blackout Kit" now. It includes a pair of uninsulated wire pliers, 15 feet of hay baling wire, also uninsulated and half a roll of cheap Chinese electrical tape. Don't be caught unprepared for the next blackout. Instructions on how to hang yourself or electrocute yourself if your neighbor has a generator are also included. Don't suffer needlessly.
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Hey, they think you can both raise taxes AND create jobs, what's wrong with both getting cheese and cheese not being available at the same time?
Good point, sir.
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We had a major outage in the northeast a few years ago,everyone survived.
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I'm confused.
Was nadin able to get cheese, or unable to get cheese?
Would you know, Banned or Jake? Is one able, or not able, to get cheese in your neck of the woods?
Last time I checked, cold cuts were meat as well. Not tasty tasty meat, but meat by product nonetheless.
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We had a major outage in the northeast a few years ago,everyone survived.
Do you recall if the primitives got all hot and excited about it?
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God, I hope she isn't using milk that needs refrigeration.
That stuff is poisonous with radiation.
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So one little blackout and the grocery store shelves are emptied? I can see this happening in a flood or hurricane. But a half a day blackout? Something doesn't quite add up at all. :mental:
I smell BS. I think Nadin is getting her disasters confused.
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I just have to wonder what it would be like if we lost our power for 18 hours in Las Vegas. Just thinking out loud.
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Do you recall if the primitives got all hot and excited about it?
I can`t say,think it was in 2007 but don`t remember for sure.
No doubt it would have all been President Bushs fault.
Wonder why the DUmbasses aren`t screaming about the fact that O let this happen?
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Wonder why the DUmbasses aren`t screaming about the fact that O let this happen?
Because it's Bush's fault still. Obama still acts like he's only been in office 30 days.
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Did a search and it was 2003 (where has the time and my memory gone?) and found this.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x196859
MiltonLeBerle (956 posts) Mon Aug-18-03 11:26 PM
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Poll question: Blackout 2003- MIHOP or just one of those wacky things that happen
Hmmmmmm...Iraq turning into a quagmire. A good buddy of the BFEE(someone quite possibly in the room with Dickless Cheney and Kennyboy at the Energy Task-Force Brunch and Forum of World Domination) has a shoddy power company...there's LOTS of money to be usurped from the people in "upgrading" THE GRID(at a time when proper investment in Research & Development could make THE GRID obsolete)...yadda, yadda, yadda...lights out. 4:11pm on a thursday in August, after the markets close...
So- what do you think?
POWER OUTAGE:
Poll result (28 votes)
MIHOP (21 votes, 75%) Vote
Just one of those wacky things that happen (7 votes, 25%) Vote
pretzel4gore (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-19-03 12:55 AM
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5. maybe someone's trying to hamper the bfee...
though rove et al try will to use the event...it still adds to sensation that something terrible wrong with the administration (bush gang) even george norry saying very fishy smell about entire episode.
Shortly prior to aug14, someone was speculating what the bfee was going to do...a huge explosion in some defenseless city(?) or so on.....the power blackout (especially the neocons instant pronouncement it NOT A TERROR event) suggests that several months of peace/quiet desperately wanted by bfee, and all bfee's enemies maybe pile up events (plane crashes, more power failures... whatever?) to create more 'bush not worth it' type thinking, esp among freepers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x192896
goddess40 (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-18-03 09:40 AM
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MSNBC Poll Blackout 2003: Was the official response adequate?
http://msnbc.com/news/778726.asp
Blackout 2003: Was the official response adequate?
* 1356 responses
Yes
53% No
47%
Are they joking? What response could they be refering to. Why aren't they asking about the timing of this black-out. Was jumping to blame Canada an adequate response? Now they have just been rolling the blame around the country.
Until they blame the putting our utilities in private greedy hands the response will not be adequate. This include taking steps to return the utilities in this country back to the public.
UTUSN (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-18-03 10:25 AM
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3. Back to the 1st Question
Response adequate?
Let's see: 1) Shrub did NOTHING to reassure the public, only addressed the issue belatedly and on tape, looking drunk.
2) The Energy Secty was literally asleep, overseas, symbolically for being ASLEEP AT THE SWITCH.
3) The affected public was literally out on the street, and as somebody posted here, completely vulnerable to being gassed or whatever.
4) Nothing but FORMER Energy Secty Bill RICHARDSON all over the Shrub media, giving the opening for BLAMING CLINTON. As the CNN anchor said to RICHARDSON, "Why wasn't this taken care of while YOU were there?"
Is the question rhetorical yet?
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Oh Nads --
The solution is right in front of you !
Ever make a potato battery ?
Well, replace the potato with two gallons of radioactive milk and you're as good as gold !
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GoNads is a DUmbass socialist.
She wants to redistribute the distribution.
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Didn't this happen at about the same time 0 was rehashing his hash? Maybe the grid just couldn't take it? Maybe the grid just shut down so it wouldn't have to hear 0 say "pass this bill right away" over and over and over and over again? Maybe it was surfing the 'net for the bill in question and picked up a virus instead, since no bill seems to exist to be passed? Maybe Jesse Ventura will address this and other questions in the new season of Conspiracy with Jesse Ventura?
Who knows? Many DUmmies believe everything has a soul. I vote for self-protection.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep-09-11 04:39 PM
Original message
On the blackout and the nature of the grid
A single error dumped oh eight million people into the darkness. To me this raises the issue of DISTRIBUTIVE energy generation. In fact, we might have to consider expanding this in a serious manner. I expect the industry to fight it, but in reality I should expect both to be part of the normal mix.
Things like this...nobody got killed, people mostly helped each other...also expose the thin veneer of technologically based civilization.
Oh and things are not fully back to normal. I was lucky to get cold cuts and cheese...but milk, cheese, even meat is not on shelves yet. Will get food out.
She's went and slipped on her power distribution hat. She must have one room dedicated just to her hats.
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She's went and slipped on her power distribution hat. She must have one room dedicated just to her hats.
To be perfectly honest, it's probably more like three rooms. :-)
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.........and the cheese stands alone...... :-)
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I'm confused.
Was nadin able to get cheese, or unable to get cheese?
Would you know, Banned or Jake? Is one able, or not able, to get cheese in your neck of the woods?
I went to the market this afternoon and it was exactly like every other time I have been there, meat, cheese, milk, whatever, it was all available.
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I just have to wonder what it would be like if we lost our power for 18 hours in Las Vegas. Just thinking out loud.
I'm finding hard to believe that her power was out that long. I live maybe a mile from her and mine came on at 10:10 last night, a total of 6.5 hours without service. I know there were problem areas and that they were restoring service section by section, but I call bullshit on 18 hours. :bs:
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She was without electricity for 18 hours, huh...Hell, my daddy and family were without electricity for almost 30 years.... :rotf:
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I just have to wonder what it would be like if we lost our power for 18 hours in Las Vegas. Just thinking out loud.
I'll bet every casino has more backup power than a world-class trauma center hospital.
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So one little blackout and the grocery store shelves are emptied? I can see this happening in a flood or hurricane. But a half a day blackout? Something doesn't quite add up at all. :mental:
I smell BS. I think Nadin is getting her disasters confused.
The last time we had a longish blackout around here, any thing that was perishable was thrown out, probably for liability reasons, and the shelves weren't restocked until the power was restored. So, it makes sense that milk, cheese, and meat would be unavailable until a delivery truck came. There are probably plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables available though.
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So one little blackout and the grocery store shelves are emptied? I can see this happening in a flood or hurricane. But a half a day blackout? Something doesn't quite add up at all. :mental:
I smell BS. I think Nadin is getting her disasters confused.
We had both a couple of weeks ago. No panic buying at all. A normal Saturday, even.
DISTRIBUTIVE energy generation
(http://chanarchive.org/content/2_v/106916012/1313625352579.jpg)
So, nadin--anytime you want to talk to this utility employee about how exactly you think we should generate and distribute electricity, come on over. I'm all ears.
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She was without electricity for 18 hours, huh...Hell, my daddy and family were without electricity for almost 30 years.... :rotf:
I lose power for at least 24 hours at a pop at least once a year. No panicked masses, no veneer of civilization stripped away, although it's difficult to get a hot shower or do laundry.
Methinks nadin would have a panic attack every time a storm blew through here in any month between January and December.
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I lose power for at least 24 hours at a pop at least once a year. No panicked masses, no veneer of civilization stripped away, although it's difficult to get a hot shower or do laundry.
Methinks nadin would have a panic attack every time a storm blew through here in any month between January and December.
She would have been fun when California was having rolling blackouts a few years ago.
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She would have been fun when California was having rolling blackouts a few years ago.
Yup--and if you look at your bill (I know you're PG&E and I was SCE) you might still have a code on your bill saying which group you'd be in were you to come to rolling blackouts again.
Mine was still there in 2006. ZZZ, I think. Meant that I wouldn't be taken off. One of the small benefits of being on the same line as Fountain Valley Regional Medical Center.
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I lose power for at least 24 hours at a pop at least once a year. No panicked masses, no veneer of civilization stripped away, although it's difficult to get a hot shower or do laundry.
Methinks nadin would have a panic attack every time a storm blew through here in any month between January and December.
I989 was the worst year for me...a week or so in January caused by an ice storm and 2 of wet foot snow. Then 3/4 days in June because of a tornado and finally 3 weeks because of hurricane Hugo.
A day or two a year isn't unusual here. I think they're saving up for something bad, the power hasn't been off here for more than an hour or two at a time in 3 or 4 years now.
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I live near the top of a nice, steep hill. Up a little farther is a 4-way intersection. On one side (if you took a left from my house) is kind of a curving road which is nearly as steep as mine.
PSNH, it its infinite wisdom, put a power pole RIGHT AT THE APEX OF A CURVE on the downhill side of the street. Okay, you see where I'm going...storm = slick roads = idiots going to fast = can't stop = downed power pole = power out for 4-6 hours.
Happened at least 3 times last winter.
Scoobie's gonna have SO much fun here when winter hits.
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OK first off, Nadabrain is a DUmbshit. Secondly, I'm sorry I missed the fun, cause just in this one thread, I'm so confused, I don't know which way to turn. All chris_ all the time, but the quotes mislead me.
Wow. :rotf: