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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Lauri on April 28, 2008, 09:39:09 AM
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Husb2Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr-28-08 09:58 AM
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A question for those of you who thorougly understand economics .......
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Today we are where we are. We can point fingers and we can recriminate. And we probably should.
But economically, what should we *do*?
Would ending the war (and thereby eliminating that cost) help us in the short term, mid term, or long term?
Would rescinding every tax cut of the Bush years help us in the short term, mid term, or long term?
What will really help and what should we do?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3217152
and just one of the useful comments..
fasttense
7. Increase government employee wages GS5 to GS11, or equivalent,
by about 40%, raise minimum wages to $10/hour and this will have an immediate improvement on consumer spending. Ending the Iraq occupations pay outs would probably have a mid term improvement and ending the Paris Hilton income tax cuts will have a long term improvement. Immediately placing tariffs on all products with equal tariffs in foreign countries would also improve the economy and encourage US manufacturing. Immediately providing health care for all American citizens will make our labor competitive with other foreign countries and removing the tax incentive for outsourcing jobs would also encourage job growth and demand.
The middle class must be put back together again for any economic improvements. Trickle down does not, and never has, worked. If it did, then serfdom and feudalism would have been the most dynamic and robust economies in history. Get rid of this fake free trade mentality and regrow the middle class and the economy will improve.
I do not thoroughly understand economics but I understand common sense.
i'm gonna go out on a limb and assume 'fasttense' works for the guvmint? :whatever: :-)
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LOL! GS-5 to GS-11? BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
That's about 26k a year bumped up to about 48k at step one.
http://www.fedjobs.com/pay/pay.html
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i'm gonna go out on a limb and assume 'fasttense' works for the guvmint? :whatever: :-)
and is closer to the GS5 mark than the GS11 mark, and has no hope of ever making it that far, or you know he would have wanted that pay raise all the way up!
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Wow...not so quick one is suggesting a 15k to 30k increase in fed. gov. employee pay? LOL...well ok, I'm kinda quick tracked for DFAS so I'm not complaining, but really does it make sense? I don't deserve a job with DFAS or any other financial entity if I think so. Idjits. :thatsright:
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raise minimum wages to $10/hour and this will have an immediate improvement on consumer spending.
....until the residual inflation kicks in and negates the "minimum wages" increase. Liberals never think through to the end any mindless scheme their brain manufactures.
I do not thoroughly understand economics
....understatement of the century.
but I understand common sense.
....DUmmie common sense, yes. Actual common sense, no.
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A free unicorn in every pot ought to do the trick.
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Honestly, why are they so stupid? The govt has never been able to create prosperity, control the market or tax us into personal wealth. How do they breathe and walk upright???
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Honestly, why are they so stupid? The govt has never been able to create prosperity, control the market or tax us into personal wealth. How do they breathe and walk upright???
I know Dixie. This sh*t always makes me :thatsright:. I mean really. And these are the braniacs who get to decide along with the rest of us who will sit up in the highest office of the land. I know it's not everyone's strength, but if someone is going to engage in a conversation about economics, corporate earnings, taxes, etc etc they should have some basic understanding of what they are talking about. :thatsright:
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Honestly, why are they so stupid? The govt has never been able to create prosperity, control the market or tax us into personal wealth. How do they breathe and walk upright???
'Shrooms and LSD.
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Honestly, why are they so stupid? The govt has never been able to create prosperity, control the market or tax us into personal wealth. How do they breathe and walk upright???
'Shrooms and LSD.
and too much drinkin' and not enough thinkin'.
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Husb2Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr-28-08 09:58 AM
Original message
A question for those of you who thorougly understand economics .......
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Today we are where we are. We can point fingers and we can recriminate. And we probably should.
But economically, what should we *do*?
Would ending the war (and thereby eliminating that cost) help us in the short term, mid term, or long term?
Would rescinding every tax cut of the Bush years help us in the short term, mid term, or long term?
What will really help and what should we do?
Well, I see the *****-whipped man-child of DU has received this week's talking points from his wife. I can kinda/sorta understand why they think ending the war would be economically viable (although war does create jobs) but how do they figure paying higher taxes, literally taking money out of people's pockets helps the economy? It's not like all those losing money they actually EARNED are eligible for any of those helpful government programs.
Cindie
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When everyone except for the elite liberals are equally miserable they will be happy.
However, they are not communists they just have the same goals.
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When everyone except for the elite liberals are equally miserable they will be happy.
However, they are not communists they just have the same goals.
Misery loves company.
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When everyone except for the elite liberals are equally miserable they will be happy.
However, they are not communists they just have the same goals.
Misery loves company.
They're not happy unless they're not happy--and making others share in their misery.
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Here's a basic economics question for the DUmmies:
If everyone in the U.S. was a millionaire, how much would a loaf of bread cost?
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Why does fasttense want to stop at $10/hr? Who can feed a family of four on that? Let's end poverty in the United States and put the minimum wage at $50/hr. Surely no one would ever go hungry then!