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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: BannedFromDU on September 04, 2011, 06:11:40 PM
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-11 02:37 PM
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I just got turned down as a substitute teacher.
A SUBSTITUTE teacher. In an affluent county in New Jersey.
I quote: Even though your credentials were good, we have selected another candidate who more closely meets our needs. (Signed by the principal of the Middle School)
1. It's "whom" not "who" Mr. Principal.
2. My credentials were "good" but not good enough? Let's review them again:
a. Nine years of college, five of which are two graduate degrees, one of which is a juris doctor, the other a masters in education. Undergraduate degree in liberal arts.
b. I am certified to teach K-8 in New Jersey.
c. Four foreign languages.
d. Five-plus years of teaching experience.
3. What more do you need to better "closely meet (your) needs"?
I love self-ownage. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1876197&mesg_id=1876197)
No other comment necessary.
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1. It's "whom" not "who" Mr. Principal.
JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Sep-04-11 05:51 PM
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11. You got #1 wrong. It's who because who is the subject and meeting the needs is what is being done.
If the subject of the relative clause were someone else, it would be "whom. For example: "We have already selected another candidate whom we like better."
aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Sep-04-11 05:54 PM
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13. Thank you! It's what I thought but whom is so intimidating.
woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Sep-04-11 05:51 PM
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12. No, the principal is correct. It should be "who."
"Who" is the subject of the clause, "who more closely meets our needs."
:lmao:
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-11 07:02 PM
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42. Your attitude plus your ignorance of "who" vs "whom" sort of sink you. nt
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I've got that one on CU too. :rotf:
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I wonder if the DUmmie speaks the four foreign languages as poorly as its own?
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I've got that one on CU too. :rotf:
I just got through reading it. Was checking to see if it was listed. If not, I was going to.
Anyway. DUmmies spend a lifetime in grad school. When it comes time to join the world, they find them self over qualified.
When all else fails, go back to school.
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Nadinesque grammar and a DUmp democrat?
And a law degree. Strike three.
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I wonder if the DUmmie speaks the four foreign languages as poorly as its own?
You know, I use the subconscious when it comes to both spelling and grammar.
If it doesn't "look" right, it's probably wrong.
My fifth-grade teacher told us to do this, and she was right.
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You know, I use the subconscious when it comes to both spelling and grammar.
If it doesn't "look" right, it's probably wrong.
My fifth-grade teacher told us to do this, and she was right.
It works most of the time, but that's why "it's" is used improperly a brazillion times a day.
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It works most of the time, but that's why "it's" is used improperly a brazillion times a day.
3/4 of those instances are by DUmmies, trying to ridicule conservatives over something else.
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It works most of the time, but that's why "it's" is used improperly a brazillion times a day.
Not really, because the subconscious knows that the rule of apostrophes (or not) is reversed in this particular case; that "its" signifies possession, and "it's" means "it is."
The subconscious remembers it because there's an exception to every rule, and the red light goes on.
But really, the subconscious is based upon past exposure, and while you and I and everybody else here probably reads more books in a month than a primitive reads in ten years, the primitives have considerably lesser-developed subconsciouses.
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-11 09:18 PM
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64. Concession!
All right. I consulted the Hodges Hambrace College Handbook (grammar/usage). I was wrong and you all were right.
Who was appropriate. Whom was incorrect on my part.
Astounding! It's inconceivable that someone with even a high school education would need a reference to understand
such a fundamental, elementary point of grammar.
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Astounding! It's inconceivable that someone with even a high school education would need a reference to understand
such a fundamental, elementary point of grammar.
This stupid ****stick had several people tell them that they were wrong, and they STILL had to appeal to a book to verify it. THAT'S why this assface can't get a job: everyone is wrong until no_hypocrisy says so. My guess is that the interview went south soon after the simplest of challenges was issued.
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DavidDvorkin (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-11 05:39 PM
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1. That sucks.
However, he wrote it correctly. It's "who," not "whom."
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-11 08:49 PM
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60. "who" is correct. "whom" would be incorrect in that sentence.
The principal was right. Sorry.
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Johnny-come-lately MineralMan chimes in more than three hours after the first correction acting oblivious to the other grammarians. It's never too late to climb aboard the train.
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-11 06:24 PM
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26. Not sure about your state but here in Illinois it requires some pull to get any public job Got to know someone who will recommend you for the position. Put in a good word.
Been that way for as long as I can remember here.
Don
Oh, no, not Illinois!!
How can that be? :rotf: