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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on September 03, 2011, 06:00:47 PM
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Oh my.
Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Fri Sep-02-11 03:13 PM
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The anti Obama sentiment from the HONEST left is Obama's own fault, in my view
You can argue about all the conspiracy theories you wish about paid left wing opposition to him and the Professional left, and all that other bullshit. But when it comes down to it, the average, non-influential, non-insider lefty (like me and many, many others) is unhappy with Obama for things he did all on his own.
For me, the biggest was not even **trying** for single payer. Now, you can say he didn't have the votes or whatever else you wish in his defense, but he didn't even **try**. He IGNORED it. If he had at least **acted** like he tried, I would be in a different place right now. But. He. Didn't. Even. Try.
Not even the weak-assesd stimulus plan he put in place made me unhappier. And make no mistake. I was very unhappy that he spent so ****ing little on direct job creation and so damned much on money for repubican causes, like tax breaks and such.
So yeah, ignoring single payer is what set my on a path to mistrusting him.
I have not been shown wrong yet. In policy after position after stance after plan after speech, I see so little from Obama that makes up for the failure that arises from his conflict avoidance, his timidity, his political ineptness, his pandering to the right, his "bipartisanship" bullshit.
Sure, some things have been done. But NONE of them are big enough, bold enough, or transformative enough to overcome the seed of mistrust that he sowed in the left wing fields starting as soon as he was sworn in.
If my only elective choice in 2012 is him or a repubican, he'll have my vote. But I would sure like another choice. No, I *don't* know who. It would have to be someone who could beat the repubican. I won't throw my vote away on a personal hero like Mario Cuomo as a protest write-in. I will vote for the party nominee. I will not, however, stop wishing it were someone other than Obama.
And he can have his peas back, uneaten.
LonePirate (686 posts) Fri Sep-02-11 03:15 PM
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1. Obama is not a king that I need to bow down to and respect for fear of my life
These continued right wing bullshit policies and actions of his have to stop before there is a revolt in this country.
Hmmmm. I wouldn't say that where the 0bamaite ProSense would see it.
Anyway, the campfire's several miles long; it takes quite a while to scroll to the bottom.
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If my only elective choice in 2012 is him or a repubican, he'll have my vote.
And so to will it be for the rest of you DUmbasses on the island. You all scream and yell, piss and moan, while waving your arms in disgust now, but you'll be sure to pull the lever for him again, just like any good slave would do for their master.
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What?
LonePirate (686 posts) Fri Sep-02-11 03:15 PM
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1. Obama is not a king that I need to bow down to and respect for fear of my life
These continued right wing bullshit policies and actions of his have to stop before there is a revolt in this country.
The solo swashbuckling primitive needs to understand that the revolt in this country is going to come from the Right--in about fourteen months. If there's any actual violence, that will come from the Left. It always has.
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What?
The solo swashbuckling primitive needs to understand that the revolt in this country is going to come from the Right--in about fourteen months. If there's any actual violence, that will come from the Left. It always has.
ButtPirate's post is odd, because the first half could have been written by a Paulbot, while the last half declares himself to be a raving Trotskyite. If he doesn't back off the florid denunciations, he's going to find himself munching granite.
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When they lose big in 2012 they will still claim that America is with them.
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When they lose big in 2012 they will still claim that America is with them.
Of course they will. Conservatives only win if they steal the election, remember?
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I may be alone in my opinion, but I'm going to give it anyway. Once upon a time I had high hopes for the clownish dude that smells like shit. I once thought the idiotic dude with the extremely foul odor had a chance to challenge for the DOTY, but the dude has just gone flat. He's become boring as hell. Sure, he shows that he's one ignorant dude every chance he gets, but so what? The whole of DUnceland is ignorant. The dude needs to do something to stand out. And yes, having a username that describes him is a start, but the dude really needs to do more. It's gotten to the point that I no longer even read his posts. I only read the replies that you guys post.
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Regular, honest, Americans, revolt at the polls.
Un-American socialists revolt on DU, and pat themselves on the back for being revolting.
Interesting that such a small minority views themselves in such high regards.
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I may be alone in my opinion, but I'm going to give it anyway. Once upon a time I had high hopes for the clownish dude that smells like shit. I once thought the idiotic dude with the extremely foul odor had a chance to challenge for the DOTY, but the dude has just gone flat. He's become boring as hell. Sure, he shows that he's one ignorant dude every chance he gets, but so what? The whole of DUnceland is ignorant. The dude needs to do something to stand out. And yes, having a username that describes him is a start, but the dude really needs to do more. It's gotten to the point that I no longer even read his posts. I only read the replies that you guys post.
I like the way he's been flailing around like a crack-addicted, Poo-flinging DUmpmonkey. Childishly baiting franksolich to unveil his alleged mole at the DUmp.
How's that working for ya, DUde?
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I like the way he's been flailing around like a crack-addicted, Poo-flinging DUmpmonkey. Childishly baiting franksolich to unveil his alleged mole at the DUmp.
How's that working for ya, DUde?
Frank is playing hard to get. :popcorn:
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ButtPirate's post is odd, because the first half could have been written by a Paulbot, while the last half declares himself to be a raving Trotskyite. If he doesn't back off the florid denunciations, he's going to find himself munching granite.
And seriously, if you've ever talked to both a Paulbot and a Trotskyite for more than five minutes each, you'll find there's not a dime's worth of difference between them on a whole host of issues.
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Frank is playing hard to get. :popcorn:
Trust me, I'm like that one rabbit that got stuck on tarred infant, or however the story goes.
Because I don't want to contribute to his paranoia, I'd just as soon not see him, and he not see me.
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Of course they will. Conservatives only win if they steal the election, remember?
I'm relieved that Cheney didn't spill the Diebold beans in his book, after Rove slipped up on that strategy letter last week.
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Coach's mole, the holy grail of DUmmitude.
They search, and seach, only to fail.
Again. :lmao:
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Coach's mole, the holy grail of DUmmitude.
They search, and seach, only to fail.
Again. :lmao:
You know, sir, I long ago figured out the secret to the success of my mole (actually I have a spare one too, but it's laying fallow at the moment).
My mole doesn't cause any problems on Skins's island, adhering rigorously to the party-line.
My mole's a 100%er on Skins's island.
Of course, my mole doesn't exist to disrupt; it's for anthropological research, collecting data through personal messages on Skins's island, and only the sender/receiver know what's in a personal message. It's not anything the other primitives can delve into.
When making public comments, my mole stays as far away as possible from primitives mentioned in the DUmpster; I deal with only the lumpenprimitiven, the unterprimitiven, the anonymouses who never get mentioned here. And that's 99% of the primitives.
Primitives mentioned here, my mole avoids like the plague on Skins's island; if possible, it tries to stay at least a football field's length away from any of them.
I/m sure my fellow alum Skins and the elusive enigmatic Elad know the identity of my mole (Lord Marblehead EarlG wouldn't find it even with a road map), but because I don't cause them any problems, they leave my mole alone.
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You know, sir, I long ago figured out the secret to the success of my mole (actually I have a spare one too, but it's laying fallow at the moment).
My mole doesn't cause any problems on Skins's island, adhering rigorously to the party-line.
My mole's a 100%er on Skins's island.
Of course, my mole doesn't exist to disrupt; it's for anthropological research, collecting data through personal messages on Skins's island, and only the sender/receiver know what's in a personal message. It's not anything the other primitives can delve into.
When making public comments, my mole stays as far away as possible from primitives mentioned in the DUmpster; I deal with only the lumpenprimitiven, the unterprimitiven, the anonymouses who never get mentioned here. And that's 99% of the primitives.
Primitives mentioned here, my mole avoids like the plague on Skins's island; if possible, it tries to stay at least a football field's length away from any of them.
I/m sure my fellow alum Skins and the elusive enigmatic Elad know the identity of my mole (Lord Marblehead EarlG wouldn't find it even with a road map), but because I don't cause them any problems, they leave my mole alone.
Hummph, sounds like a Nebaska snipe hunt, to me, and we're loaning them the flashlights. :lmao:
Ya know, if you start randomly modulating the ParGen frequency, you could get stinkdude to discumbobulate. :popcorn:
I'll split ticket concessions with you.
Deal?
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Coach's mole, the holy grail of DUmmitude.
They search, and seach, only to fail.
Again. :lmao:
Puts me in mind of the hilarious little poem from The Scarlet Pimpernel film, as our hero in his foppish gentleman alter=ego plays the fool while entertaining guests in the salon:
"They seek him here,
They seek him there,
Those Frenchies [DUmmies] seek him
Everywhere!
Is he in Heaven?
Is he in Hell?
That damhed elusive
Pimpernel!"
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Puts me in mind of the hilarious little poem from The Scarlet Pimpernel film, as our hero in his foppish gentleman alter=ego plays the fool while entertaining guests in the salon:
"They seek him here,
They seek him there,
Those Frenchies [DUmmies] seek him
Everywhere!
Is he in Heaven?
Is he in Hell?
That damhed elusive
Pimpernel!"
Oh, fior F**ks, face, only YOU could come up with that. :rotf: