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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 01, 2011, 01:01:43 PM
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drakonyx (102 posts) Thu Sep-01-11 05:25 PM
Original message
Megan's Law May Actually Encourage Sex Offenders
Megan's Law, which calls for neighbors to be notified when a sex offender moves into the area, may actually encourage recidivism, a new study shows.
According to the new analysis, "the publicity created by Megan's Law "has negative consequences for (registered sex offenders), including loss of employment, housing, or social ties; harassment; and psychological costs such as increased stress, loneliness, and depression."
http://www.theprovocation.net/2011/09/megans-law-may-ac...
TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-01-11 05:29 PM
Response to Original message
1. Yeah...I'd still like to know who the predators are around us.
I'm sorry that people who prey on other people for sexual jollies are being made sad and lonely as a consequence, I really am. :sosad:
Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-01-11 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Not the point
I too find it hard to muster-up a modicum of sympathy for sexual predators, but I see the point being made that laws meant to identify offenders in our midst may lead to disregard for the rules, which means we're no better off than if there were no disclosure laws in the first place.
From the article:
Because many states put sex offenders on a lifetime registry, they've got very little to lose by reoffending. There's no reward for good behavior, and the punishment for bad behavior - a return to prison - doesn't serve as a deterrent for people who feel more comfortable and accepted behind bars than they do in the outside world. It's easier to let the state take care of you than it is to find employment in an environment where very few employers want to hire you because of your background. The predictable result of all this is that sex offenders will find new victims; then they'll be caught, convicted and put back into prison to further increase the already overcrowded conditions there - along with the financial burden on society.
I am willing to put aside my desire for revenge in order to create a system that actually works. Causing these offenders to suffer may be personally rewarding to some, but it's important to consider potential victims of a repeat offender who feels like (s)he has nothing left to lose.
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2009/11/20/1225800/990892-michael-jackson-gives-a-thumbs-up-during-a-rally-at-6689889-jpg.jpg)
TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-01-11 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. It's not that I want them to suffer, and see that suffering as a deterrent.
It's that I believe that the vast majority cannot be successfully rehabilitated unless they undergo some sort of profound change in their thought processes, impulse control and perhaps brain chemistry. Once a person is gratified sexually by victimizing another person, especially a defenseless child, I believe it's very difficult to put that aside for the rest of one's life and develop a normal, healthy sex life with willing adults. I would never trust these folks again to be among an UNAWARE community. My awareness, and thus my self-protection and protection for my children, trumps their right to slip through society unnoticed.
dorksied (135 posts) Thu Sep-01-11 05:48 PM
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4. A friend of mine is on the registry
he can't get a job, he lives with his sister because he can't get a job, and this is AFTER he spent $50,000 on therapy over 5 years. I've known the guy for a LONG time, and the changes he went through in therapy are obvious to anyone who knows him vs. the old him, but no matter how much he's changed, no matter how much he's tried to become a good citizen and a good person, nobody will hire him, he has to deal with hostile neighbors, and he's told me that sometimes he thinks going back to prison is a good idea.
How can a society continue to punish someone who has made so much effort to be exactly what society wants?
I really fear that some day he will either kill himself or do something to get himself back into prison.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x624537
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Megan's Law, which calls for neighbors to be notified when a sex offender moves into the area, may actually encourage recidivism, a new study shows.
Letting them out of jail encourages recidivism. Let them rot in jail and have all the free sex they want. But I hate hearing about case after case where one of these animals are let out only to kill a kid.
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Letting them out of jail encourages recidivism. Let them rot in jail and have all the free sex they want. But I hate hearing about case after case where one of these animals are let out only to kill a kid.
Death penalty for a second offense would discourage recidivism.
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dorksied (135 posts) Thu Sep-01-11 05:48 PM
Response to Original message
4. A friend of mine is on the registry
he can't get a job, he lives with his sister because he can't get a job, and this is AFTER he spent $50,000 on therapy over 5 years. I've known the guy for a LONG time, and the changes he went through in therapy are obvious to anyone who knows him vs. the old him, but no matter how much he's changed, no matter how much he's tried to become a good citizen and a good person, nobody will hire him, he has to deal with hostile neighbors, and he's told me that sometimes he thinks going back to prison is a good idea.
How can a society continue to punish someone who has made so much effort to be exactly what society wants?
I really fear that some day he will either kill himself or do something to get himself back into prison.
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What's the problem?
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Letting them out of jail encourages recidivism. Let them rot in jail and have all the free sex they want. But I hate hearing about case after case where one of these animals are let out only to kill a kid.
^5 for your new profile picture! She's a true DUmmies' hero.
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^5 for your new profile picture! She's a true DUmmies' hero.
What's the story there? I missed it.
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What's the story there? I missed it.
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,63539.0.html
Her DU counterpart, FirstLight: http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,63766.0.html
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dorksied (135 posts) Thu Sep-01-11 05:48 PM
Response to Original message
4. A friend of mine is on the registry
he can't get a job, he lives with his sister because he can't get a job, and this is AFTER he spent $50,000 on therapy over 5 years. I've known the guy for a LONG time, and the changes he went through in therapy are obvious to anyone who knows him vs. the old him, but no matter how much he's changed, no matter how much he's tried to become a good citizen and a good person, nobody will hire him, he has to deal with hostile neighbors, and he's told me that sometimes he thinks going back to prison is a good idea.
How can a society continue to punish someone who has made so much effort to be exactly what society wants?
I really fear that some day he will either kill himself or do something to get himself back into prison.
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What's the problem?
So this DUmmy admits to being friends with somebody who was convicted of sexually assaulting a child? And we are supposed to feel bad for this friend because his actions have rendered him untrustworthy to his neighbors?
Tell me dorksied, how much energy have you spent praying for, or even considering, the child that he assaulted?
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So this DUmmy admits to being friends with somebody who was convicted of sexually assaulting a child? And we are supposed to feel bad for this friend because his actions have rendered him untrustworthy to his neighbors?
Tell me dorksied, how much energy have you spent praying for, or even considering, the child that he assaulted?
Yeah, how is that kids' entire life affected? Doesn't seem to matter to pedophile lovers.
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Death penalty for a second offense would discourage recidivism.
The second offense is entirely preventable. There's just some things you shouldn't do and ever be eligible for parole.
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Death penalty for a second offense would discourage recidivism.
Castration on the first, DP on the second.
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Castration on the first, DP on the second.
Nut-cracker suite? :rotf:
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http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,63539.0.html
Her DU counterpart, FirstLight: http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,63766.0.html
Wow. I haven't been so moved to laughter AND flatulence since The Spirit of Truth videos. I'm copying that avatar.
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Castration on the first, DP on the second.
Castration, tried in chemical form, is useless. Recidivists went on to use phallic objects to assault subsequent victims.
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I misread the thread title and thought this was going to be a Pedro Picasso thread. :-)
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I misread the thread title and thought this was going to be a Pedro Picasso thread.
Not Pedro Pissant, but it could be the Pittster.
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I read in our HOA for our new house that you can't live or visit the neighborhood if you are a registered sex offender. It also states that if you are the owner and a registered sex offender that the association can actually sell your house at 85% of the county tax appraisal amount.
I tried to copy and paste it but I can't copy text from a PDF file with my iPad.
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Castration on the first, DP on the second.
Castration will do nothing.....Their sex organs don't make them molest children...their brains do...See where i'm going with this?
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Castration will do nothing.....Their sex organs don't make them molest children...their brains do...See where i'm going with this?
Would, say, 9 pellets of 00 Buck at about 1350 fps work?
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Would, say, 9 pellets of 00 Buck at about 1350 fps work?
Kinda, sorta, down low, it certainly would. :whatever:
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Would, say, 9 pellets of 00 Buck at about 1350 fps work?
Yes! But at very close range right at the forehead...He will never molest again...
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Yes! But at very close range right at the forehead...He will never molest again...
I was thinking that they should be applied to the groin.
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The problem is NOT Megan's Law, its the sentence.
We need to change the sentence of the crime to life in prison without parole. Although I believe the death penalty is a better solution, I recognize many states are run by timid, cowardly democrats. .