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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Texacon on August 31, 2011, 03:25:10 PM
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 03:42 PM
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Is it really MY fault?
I have a HUD housing voucher since I left my abusive ex 7 years ago. It has been the reason my kids have had a "stable home environment" because since then my employment has been either feast or famine and I have been raising three kids alone and trying to recover my sanity at the same time...
So I moved into this house four years ago - after being moved three years straight by my rental agency. Every time the lease ran out, i was moving, people were selling the houses out from under me or it was furnished and my stuff went into storage, etc...so this house and finall feeling settled was HUGE for us all.
When I moved in, My allowance was 1250-1300 and I was allowed 3 bedrooms. I had to double up two of my kids, but they were the little ones and it was okay, even though it made for some tense times. (boy & girl, and a teen boy +me) When my teen moved out in March, I followed protocol and let HUD know in a timely fashion. My rent didn't change bu it was nice to finally separate the younger siblings. Especially since there had been a law or mandate that said opposite sex siblings shouldn't share after the age of 6 ...they are currently 8 & 9.(I didn;t move the two boys in together because a young boy and a mastrubating teen shouldn't share a room, lol) My daughter is actually pre-pubescent and will be 10 in a couple months, so she definitely needs her own space. I cannot tell you how much it even changed the family dynamics to have each of them in their own domains.
They sent me a letter about my re-certification appointment coming up, and buried in the 4th paragraph was a comment that said since my teen had moved out, i was lowered to a 2 bedroom voucher status...NOWHERE on any of my paperwork did I see the $1300 reduced to $1050...only that line, and the generic newsletter they sent us in July of 2010 stating that they were changing the general rules due to budget cute...all BURIED info.
I read it, but in July of 2010, it didn't apply to me, and it went past my eyeballs and out my brain...
So here i get my current rent breakdown, still NOWHERE does it list my actual VOUCHER amount... Just $1300 rent, what they pay and what I pay... no explanation of how it is broken down, because they do tricky averaging and plus minus percentages on their worksheet which i never get to see...
my rent wen up $500 ...more than I get in welfare for the entire month! why? because I am living beyond my means?
I was IN the Office, for my appointment with the Supervisor for an hour in july...signing my life away again & again, and she NEVER said to me,
"you know, you are only getting a voucher for a 2 bedroom now.."
So now I have to hustle an extra few hundred a month to keep my house, or move?... where? ....uproot my kids AGAIN...? and where am I going to FIND that extra income when there are NO ****ing JOBS and I am lucky to work even 10 hours a week for a non-profit? and if that extra job/income causes me to pay for after school care, it is NOT extra money because daycare sucks up the wages!
I have been struggling my ENTIRE adult life to make something better out of NOTHING. and i feel this huge hand on my head holding me down. I even took advantage of welfare to work and drove 150 miles for 6 months to get a certification in HR management in 2008/09...but I can't break into the field because it isn't a BA, so it did me NO good
I am just. so. done.
I don't want this life anymore, but i don't know how to break free... my heart hurts, i am having trouble breathing, my stress level is off the charts... I want to scream and break shit. I am screwn.
Um, yeah. It's your fault. How's that big government working for you?
There's more but I have to go. Have fun!
KC
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This should be a cautionary tale for the DUmmies. When you rely on the government for your very subsistence for YEARS, shit like this is going to happen. The government is big and impersonal, and has some hard-and-fast rules that MUST be obeyed. Who wants to live like that? Look at all the stress that poor woman is under. She should have taken charge of her own life a long time ago.
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Uh oh.
democrat_patriot (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 03:57 PM
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6. It's not your fault.
Don't ever think it is.
I wish I had words of wisdom to make it better.
Hire yourself out to small businesses - "Let me handle your employee discipline" many would be glad to have someone take care of it for them. It's the most uncomfortable part of having employees. $40 an incident? Do a Groupon for $25?
FirstLight (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. not a bad idea...
I contacted my buddies in the newspaper biz to ask if i could sell advertizing and build ads for commission under the table
at this point, i just want to sell it all, and take my kids and go find a commune somewhere to join...**** the world, i wanna get off the ride
Um. All they're asking of you is to move to a smaller home. If you can't afford a bigger one then you move to a smaller one and no, I have no sympathy. I was raised with 4 brothers in a 2 bedroom home for a long time until we could afford a *gasp* 3 bedroom home. 2 boys in one room and 3 in the other. Hey, it beat the hell out of all 5 of us living in one room. Get over it.
KC
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This should be a cautionary tale for the DUmmies. When you rely on the government for your very subsistence for YEARS, shit like this is going to happen. The government is big and impersonal, and has some hard-and-fast rules that MUST be obeyed. Who wants to live like that? Look at all the stress that poor woman is under. She should have taken charge of her own life a long time ago.
The DUmmies always forget; A government large enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
KC
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Seven years seems like kind of a long time to be sucking on the tit.
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 03:42 PM
Original message
Is it really MY fault?
Well, let's see: "Living" for 7 years on the good graces of productive citizens, living in an area with no jobs, no thought as to further education and broader skill sets, not the first thought as to what would happen if the gravy train derailed, and you vote for democratics.
Uh, yeah, it's your fault.
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Oh my God. This is so pathetic.
FirstLight (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 03:57 PM
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7. I have always been the one to do the right thing...
Edited on Wed Aug-31-11 03:58 PM by FirstLight
I am the freaking poster child for taking advantage of programs to help and doing my paperwork and toe-ing the line...
I am 'lucky' I have extended family that will help in a pinch, my mom has covered my electric bill or bought back to school for my kids for years...and you realize if I told welfare that, they would want the receipts so they could take the money AWAY from us the following month? NO SHIT, seriously...
it's all bullshit, there is no help, i am poor, i am dirt, it doesn't matter how smart I am or how much I try, I am a drag on the system and they want me to fail....
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 04:03 PM
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9. You are not a drag on the system, THEY ARE!
Those who are trying to take away the social safety nets. They are destroying this country by refusing to help people like you, and especially your children who are the future of this country. I understand how you feel, but I disagree with your assessment as to who is the drag on this country, sorry. It is NOT you! Wish I knew what to tell you. Have you called your Congressmember? I have friends who did get help from their member of Congress when they were in a tough spot like this. Some of them are pretty good at handling Government agencies and getting answers they won't give to ordinary people.
Oh dear Lord. They are asking her to move to a smaller house! They are not destroying safety nets. This person has, proudly evidently, been on public assistance for 7 freakin' years!! Now they would like her to move into a smaller home.
What the hell is going to happen when ALL her kids are gone, she is still on public assistance and STILL wants to live in a freakin' 3 bedroom home because "everyone else has one."?
:thatsright:
KC
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Seven years seems like kind of a long time to be sucking on the tit.
i agree!
maybe her reduced "rent subsidy" could afford one of those new berkley dumpster houses.
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As a Medi-CAL patient for my entire adult life
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/FirstLight
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 04:20 PM
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14. Sometimes doing the right thing sucks. I have a question about the bedroom thing
Since your opposite sex kids aren't supposed to share a bedroom, how can they give you a voucher for only 2 bedrooms? Are they assuming you don't need one or will share? Seems you should still be eligible for 3 bedrooms.
Good luck with it, sounds like you've had quite the time, reading this and your other post.
FirstLight (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. the July 2010 newsletter recinded that rule,,
budget cuts, ya'know
$100 bill says she knew she was being downgraded and thought they would either miss it or let it slip.
How come DUmmie FirstLight can see the need to trim her own budget but can't see the need for the government?
KC
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Aug-31-11 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. not a bad idea...
I contacted my buddies in the newspaper biz to ask if i could sell advertizing and build ads for commission under the table
at this point, i just want to sell it all, and take my kids and go find a commune somewhere to join...**** the world, i wanna get off the ride
FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Aug-31-11 03:57 PM
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7. I have always been the one to do the right thing...
Edited on Wed Aug-31-11 03:58 PM by FirstLight
I am the freaking poster child for taking advantage of programs to help and doing my paperwork and toe-ing the line...
I am 'lucky' I have extended family that will help in a pinch, my mom has covered my electric bill or bought back to school for my kids for years...and you realize if I told welfare that, they would want the receipts so they could take the money AWAY from us the following month? NO SHIT, seriously...
it's all bullshit, there is no help, i am poor, i am dirt, it doesn't matter how smart I am or how much I try, I am a drag on the system and they want me to fail....
What happened to paying your fair share? Paying taxes is patriotic.
Is doing the right thing collecting welfare benefits, working under the table and NOT paying taxes?
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http://journals.democraticunderground.com/FirstLight
Uhm. What the hell is this?
Hey mods: Is there an App for DU?
Posted by FirstLight in General Discussion
Mon May 23rd 2011, 04:38 PM
...or are you planning one for DU3...? Just curious.
Don't you have some type of smartphone with internet access to be worried about apps? I don't have a smart phone so can someone please elaborate on this?
KC
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It gets better :mental:
Hey all-
One of the things I do as a freelancer is work for my favorite mentor/shaman/transactional analyst, and all around wise woman...doing basic marketing, local stuff, website changes, and prepare and co-facilitate groups and workshops.
We are starting to branch out from just the quarterly circle group, and the occasional vision quest and solstice gathering, drumming, etc to try something new...
"Virtual Circles"
I am building the website for her Center of Celebrating Life at this time and wonder what you might think of something like this being offered to you? She has a Skype phone, and can do conference calls through her computer...as well as create downloadable meditations for the week so the group can then come together and share the experiences and grow together. do you think it would work?
I love it, it is just a LOT of work to produce...but this is fun too. I am taking some of the taped groups and specials we have done and I am transcribing those to make downloadable workbooks and such for purchase too... I think the website will be a sucess, I just want to see if anyone has any "hits" on the timing, the concept, etc...
a-ho!
*talking stick is now passed*
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shadeaux ... thanks for the link. This is really interesting;
So, I've been 'seriously' job-searching for about 2 weeks now....
Posted by Journalgrrl in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Tue Aug 10th 2010, 01:37 PM
I say it in quotes because I wonder how willing I am to jump through these hoops to actually GET said job.
Like, I really don't think I'd relocate my family to another city where I have no support system or relatives nearby to help with my kids, just for a job that may not last 6 months or more. Because so many of these employers are laying off and going unde as we continue to 'downturn'.
But, like a good prole, I am submitting to everything I think i may be qualified for, even if it is in sac or reno- most of them at least generate a rejection slip within a week anyway, or just ignore me.
And then there's the AUTOMATED APPLICATION...where you can't even really upload a resume, you have to check off all these asinine questions, and sometimes they time out in the middle for no reason. funfunfun.
Here's my big question: I know these corporations like to think they own us, but it is really necessary to allow them to run credit checks and background checks as well as offer bodily fluids to even be CONSIDERED for the job?
It galls me.
I guess I am shooting myself in the foot and will always end up at Mom & Pop companies, because I just can't bring myself to do it.
Not because I am hiding anything, 'cept maybe my medical MJ, which isn't protected anyway... but JUST on a matter of principal.Does anyone get what I mean?
Nope, nothing to see here just move along.
KC
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When I moved in, My allowance was 1250-1300 and I was allowed 3 bedrooms. I had to double up two of my kids, but they were the little ones and it was okay, even though it made for some tense times. (boy & girl, and a teen boy +me)
Too stupid to disconnect the interwebs access to help her afford the higher rent (but she has her priorities -posting on DU- straight).
There's no help
Except for the 5 different government programs you're on that supply your housing, food, water, and clothing.
I am dirt.
That's exactly the way democrats want you to feel. Completely worthless without government to make your life richer and fuller. Congrats, you're the model welfare recipient.
Here's my big question: I know these corporations like to think they own us, but it is really necessary to allow them to run credit checks and background checks as well as offer bodily fluids to even be CONSIDERED for the job?
Yes, unless you're applying to be a welfare recipient or crackwhore. Otherwise, it's nice to have a sober workforce operating machinery and dealing with customers.
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You mean to tell me she can afford medical weed but not the extra rent ?
Is she for real ?
Oh I'm sorry. She's a DUmmy. Priorities.
Your tax dollars at work. There is no fraud people !!!! :whatever:
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I am dirt.
Not at all. Dirt is far more productive. You, milady, are a half-wit welfare-slurping hippie drone, taking everything and contributing nothing.
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There's a whole lot that we're not being told.
Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7532806#7532871)
FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-21-10 01:36 PM
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I am so ****ing DONE
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 01:39 PM by FirstLight
At the very least, my Obama Biden stickers are coming OFF the car this week.
and if I had the resources, I would be gone from this country...
...or at least run away to my ranch in the hills and stop paying taxes and voting...**** em...if they want my livelihood, they can come after me to get it.
...Pull my kids out of school and go live off the land, set up my own off-the-grid home and just do what I WANT.
I am tired of trying to find a job and make life work by THEIR rules, tired of having my earned income credit TAKEN to pay for student loans on and education that is null & void
tired of hoping for things to get better when they really are not going to anytime soon
tired of trying to make my children good little citizens, when they should be learning more about ecology and surviving the next decades of Earth changes
tired of having to tell the welfare office details about my life, every nickel and dime and bank statement watched for fraud when the banks and politicians are stealing openly
tired of the way things keep getting worse, even when you think they can't
I'm not giving up, i am taking my life back.
but first i'm going to go have a good :cry:
FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-21-10 02:54 PM
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32. You rock!
My parents on 40 acres in the wine country (bought when i was 7, used to spend weekends up there), with an artesian well and plenty of sunshine and room for permaculture...in fact i have figured out how to turn it into "something" (farm/retreat cntr) for long time now. But they say I can't move up there because they are very old fashioned and a woman ALONE just doesn't DO things like that...and i'd have to drive an 8 mile dirt road every morning to get to town and get the kids to school, and there are rattlesnakes...etc...
I guess i will need my tribe to move up there with me...build a few yurts and start a ice little commune of about 3 families or so...
*sigh*
it is my lifelong dream and I know it is a whole 'nother LIFETIME of work...but if I cant go till I am pushing 50, so be it!
FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-21-10 11:59 PM
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72. Lol, my folks are so old-school...depression-era folks
My dad is 78, mom is 74...He sits in front of Faux all day and is very limited in his views (and for so many years growing up he was a Dem, too.) Mom is more liberal. But I think it is a condition of their generation to be ruled by fear and anxiety.
No, they don't live there, it's never been more than a wekend thing when was a kid. Now the property is all but abandoned...with a 3 bd house too..nobody has even BEEN up there for a few years...they check on it every five years or so, just to make sure the road hasn;t washed out or the house fallen apart or the property hasn;t been taken over by the pot growers. (hehe)
But the water supply is not reliable and a MODERN well needs to be surveyed and dug... the road really does need some real grading with a dozer and maybe a layer of good gravel (or that new eco-asphalt that filters the water through to avoid erosion) to keep it stable...and I would love to retrofit the house for solar, etc...
*sigh* ...I swear, it really sux knowing it is there and I can't access it. I have been telling my whole family that I am going to LIVE there and FARM one day since I was a teen... they all think I am nuts. They Like infrastructure. wierdos.
Healdsbrg, eh? do you know Armstrong Redwoods outside of Guerneville? ya, nice area...remote and good growing season and climate...
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Her son couldn't share a room with his older brother because the older brother masturbated often? Did she really say that? OMG, how on Earth did all the folks from previous generations that shared a room with siblings survive? ::)
If she is so obsessed with her kids having their own room, when she moves into her 2 bedroom free house she can give the kids each a room and park her ass on the sofa.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-21-10 01:36 PM
Original message
I am so ****ing DONE
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 01:39 PM by FirstLight
At the very least, my Obama Biden stickers are coming OFF the car this week.
and if I had the resources, I would be gone from this country...
...or at least run away to my ranch in the hills and stop paying taxes and voting...**** em...if they want my livelihood, they can come after me to get it.
...Pull my kids out of school and go live off the land, set up my own off-the-grid home and just do what I WANT.
I am tired of trying to find a job and make life work by THEIR rules, tired of having my earned income credit TAKEN to pay for student loans on and education that is null & void
tired of hoping for things to get better when they really are not going to anytime soon
tired of trying to make my children good little citizens, when they should be learning more about ecology and surviving the next decades of Earth changes
tired of having to tell the welfare office details about my life, every nickel and dime and bank statement watched for fraud when the banks and politicians are stealing openly
tired of the way things keep getting worse, even when you think they can't
I'm not giving up, i am taking my life back.
but first i'm going to go have a good :cry:
Hmmmm, I wonder could it be?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUj-m6Gq_2Y&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
It's damn near the same exact rant.
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But they say I can't move up there because they are very old fashioned and a woman ALONE just doesn't DO things like that...and i'd have to drive an 8 mile dirt road every morning to get to town and get the kids to school, and there are rattlesnakes...etc...
I believe that's where poor, stupid Beth Ferrari lives, in that little camper with her mother and two big smelly dogs.
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Hmmmm, I wonder could it be?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUj-m6Gq_2Y&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
It's damn near the same exact rant.
Holy crap! There's your Obama voter.
Why should I have to work and pay for stuff? Why should I have to pay rent, pay for my car. Land, water, everything should be free!
I was happy when I wasn't working.
They had electricity in ancient Africa? I wonder what happened to it?
(http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp.jpg)
If it was that good, I would be happy to give a few bucks to get her a one way ticket back.
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They had electricity in ancient Africa? I wonder what happened to it?
Someone forgot to pay the bill :rofl:
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Now I'm confused - so it's her parents' ranch?
FirstLight (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. well...
He is an 2 time ex-felon, just out of san quentin this year, we have a restraining order on him and have changed our names to hide... He keeps asking the child support people for an extention to find a job...
besides, he is also a child-pron addict (misdemeanor, they had to examine my daughter when she was 2 to see if he hurt her, inconclusive results)
and his big bust in 06 (we bailed in 04) was for selling drugs and assault... so ya, I am afraid to touch that with a 10 foot pole
::) the drama
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. not a bad idea...
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at this point, i just want to sell it all, and take my kids and go find a commune somewhere to join...**** the world, i wanna get off the ride
Now this right here is frickin' hilarious.
You honestly think that when you go and join that commune - you'll be given a nice 3 bedroom house all for you and your two non-productive eaters young children ?
Think that the overseer will be letting you hit up that "medical" weed while working on a drum circle routine ?
Guess again.
Should you actually go and join a commune - you'll know hardship, slave labour, deprivation and poverty that'll leave you begging for the bum-deal you think you're getting now.
It is brainless, worthless, lazy bums like you who advocate communal living, while having utterly no concept of the real world end results of its implementation are, who are what is wrong with society today.
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Someone forgot to pay the bill :rofl:
****ing bitch needs to move her ass to Africa and live like her "ancient" ancestors did.
Umm, for the record, do ANY cavers happen to possess non-ancient ancestors? :rotf:
That woman is SOOOOOO an Obama voter, light on the intellect and high on the entitlement mentality.
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Now I'm confused - so it's her parents' ranch?
::) the drama
I concur, ^5!
She seems to have unwittingly parted the curtain a bit, ruining the puppet show.
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I don't have a problem with the fact that there is welfare. Every society in recorded history has had provisions far alms. Providing for the indigent is the decent and Christian thing to do.
What I have a problem with is the sheer scope of it in this country. Welfare is ostensibly a temporary safety net, with strings attached. It is supposed to function like the hay bales on a downhill course or an oval race track. This analogy implies that those involved are under their own power and in command of their own destiny and merely provides a cushion when things go awry. The welfare system is staffed by folks who are supposed to guide those they mentor in the system towards getting back on their own two feet and proceeding in life on their own. Originally that is likely they way it was. Was. Past tense.
The sheer scope of it all belies that. The welfare bureaucracy has morphed into being a nanny, not a mentor. The hay bails are no longer a deflection device one may find themselves careened into but a haven one deliberately seeks to plunge into and entrench oneself in.
Safety net? Fine, I'm all for it.
Hammock? Oh *$%@ no!
Save the drama for yo momma and get a damn job.
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Holy crap! There's your Obama voter.
Why should I have to work and pay for stuff? Why should I have to pay rent, pay for my car. Land, water, everything should be free!
I was happy when I wasn't working.
They had electricity in ancient Africa? I wonder what happened to it?
(http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp.jpg)
If it was that good, I would be happy to give a few bucks to get her a one way ticket back.
Now that's just racist...look at all that electricity those white people have to waste.
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I am tired of trying to find a job and make life work by THEIR rules, tired of having my earned income credit TAKEN to pay for student loans on and education that is null & void
A null and void education that involved "wymen studies" perhaps?
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Hey mods: Is there an App for DU?
Posted by FirstLight in General Discussion
Mon May 23rd 2011, 04:38 PM
...or are you planning one for DU3...? Just curious.
I still need an answer for this one. Don't you need a smart phone with internet connection to be worried about apps? I don't have anything more than a $50 phone and it doesn't use apps but my wife and son have iPhones and they talk about apps.
KC
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I still need an answer for this one. Don't you need a smart phone with internet connection to be worried about apps? I don't have anything more than a $50 phone and it doesn't use apps but my wife and son have iPhones and they talk about apps.
KC
Yes.
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I still need an answer for this one. Don't you need a smart phone with internet connection to be worried about apps? I don't have anything more than a $50 phone and it doesn't use apps but my wife and son have iPhones and they talk about apps.
KC
I have a non smart no I phone that you can get aps for, and unlimited data runs $25 a month, but it's 3G, I doubt that a DUmmy would lower themselves to use anything less than 4g. So odds are she has a Iphone or smart phone.
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3g is about the same as using dial-up. It's pretty bad.
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This is kind of what ticks me off, 7 years on Government assistance? I have no problem with temporary assistance for people going through a tough time, or lifetime assistance for someone who is sick or disabled, but 7 years for someone who isn't disabled?
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3g is about the same as using dial-up. It's pretty bad.
3g is fine for me. If I want to do anything major I just wait till I get home and hop on the laptop.
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Yes.
So this person who is claiming to live hand to mouth is actually paying for a smart phone with a data plan? What are the odds that this woman posts those long screeds is doing all that from a smart phone? Is that a doable thing or are we saying this woman has a smart phone with a data plan AND a home computer with some type of connection?
This is pissing me off.
KC
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This is kind of what ticks me off, 7 years on Government assistance? I have no problem with temporary assistance for people going through a tough time, or lifetime assistance for someone who is sick or disabled, but 7 years for someone who isn't disabled?
One can argue that said DUmb**** has a PhD. in "bilking the system." Call it "Advanced DUmb**** studies."
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 03:42 PM
Original message
Is it really MY fault?
Yes.
And you're right, you really are dirt.
Do your kids and the human race a favor. Hang yourself.
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 06:51 PM
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22. Thanks guys...
I cried for a few hours, and my mom came over to hug me, god bless her.
Called the rental agency, and since I have such a good rapport with them, they are willing to let me break it up over the month.
In fact, if i wanted to try getting my folks to just buy this place, it could be an option, who knows. Maybe paying property taxes would be easier than this bullshit... even without the 'help' from welfare/foodstamps and HUD...I'd rather be free.
Thing is, I *just* started to get this house to a place where we started to feel 'at home' and i am NOT going to let anyone take that from us!
So I will tap my connections, beat the bushes and see where I can make up the $ difference.
my mom made a good point, she has watched me struggle through this system and bullshit since i was 22, and she said.."you always have this happen, you start getting ahead and feeling good about yourself, and they hamstring you for it." this time, she said, don't let them stop me, don't give up.
so i put on my big girl shoes and my lipstick and showed up for my part time job this afternoon just like I am supposed to.
I refuse to let this damn economy and welfare bashing world get to me. I know how smart i am, and I know I can do right by my kids
so **** 'em
I KNEW she would figure it out. Thank the gods for prostitution to make a quick buck.
KC
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One can argue that said DUmb**** has a PhD. in "bilking the system." Call it "Advanced DUmb**** studies."
This thread is making me furious reading all these things, she's bilking the system and I'm fed-up with people doing that and I'm a freaking member of the Tea Party because I'm fed-up with people bilking the system.
I have a freaking pre-paid cellphone to avoid a monthly plan, I take care of my Mom and pay for her cellphone and her meds because I won't pawn her off on the Government, I view taking care of her as my responsibility. Damn idiots!
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Hope and Change!
Yeah, baby!
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$600 or so per month will rent you a modest 3 bedroom house in a safe nieghborhood around here. See what all those illegal aliens and freebies cost you DUmmie.
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WTF? Seriously? So 7 years and if you were eligable for ALL of that crap, you were eligible for a Pell Grant too, you know to get that BA in Human Resources Management long before now. At what point was this woman's children going to be a priority as far as providing for them and either A-getting counseling so she could move on with another man who might treat her better, actually love her, and willingly provide for her B--getting an education with all of that assistance and not working(ie lots of freetime) so SHE could provide them with a home? Did it ever occur to her to work towards something so she could celebrate the day and income that no longer made her eligible for section 8? And the teenager sounds like a loser...no self control(however did kids 100 years ago with 10 siblings and 1 room control themselves?)...no word that he could babysit his younger siblings so mom could, oh I don't know, work and provide for his sorry ass--something tells me he's well on his way to being a sperm donor for several young ladies out there whose offspring we will also be paying for...even with that said, my guess is mom put no requirements on him or any of the kids since she had none placed on her to move forward and strive for something better. I have no sympathy--my rent is less then that and I accept minimal help after my divorce with the goal of celebrating the day I am once again ineligble for any help. And I have not accepted or taken all the help out there available to me either because I don't think its right. I'm still sitting here amazed she wasted 7 years of collecting taxpayer funds and hasn't got herself an education...really? :thatsright:
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I even took advantage of welfare to work and drove 150 miles for 6 months to get a certification in HR management in 2008/09...but I can't break into the field because it isn't a BA, so it did me NO good
DUmmies constantly make this mistake, thinking these half-assed training programs are for their benefit.
The chance these programs will ever result in a career is microscopically small.
These training programs are for political publicity, and to channel public funds to the people who run them. Nothing else.
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I've known families like the one she is describing. In one, the mother was always afflicted with some health or mental issue, so was the daughter.
The two boys were torturing neighborhood animals, until a dog they had torutued got hold of one of them and very nearly killed him. He has spent his adult life in and out of jail.
The other one was killed when he fell off a pulp train, while his system was loaded with coke and booze. He had turned seventeen the week before.
The daughter followed the same path as the mother, kids and no husband and a ward of the state.
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 03:42 PM
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Is it really MY fault?
I have a HUD housing voucher since I left my abusive ex 7 years ago. It has been the reason my kids have had a "stable home environment" because since then my employment has been either feast or famine and I have been raising three kids alone and trying to recover my sanity at the same time...
So I moved into this house four years ago - after being moved three years straight by my rental agency. Every time the lease ran out, i was moving, people were selling the houses out from under me or it was furnished and my stuff went into storage, etc...so this house and finall feeling settled was HUGE for us all.
Like you're the only family that's had to move a lot. For military families it's to be expected and you won't find them posting on message boards looking for sympathy as if they're victims of a cold cruel world. You're the one who chose a loser for a husband and then had 3 children with him before you decided he was too abusive to stay with.
When I moved in, My allowance was 1250-1300 and I was allowed 3 bedrooms. I had to double up two of my kids, but they were the little ones and it was okay, even though it made for some tense times. (boy & girl, and a teen boy +me) When my teen moved out in March, I followed protocol and let HUD know in a timely fashion. My rent didn't change bu it was nice to finally separate the younger siblings. Especially since there had been a law or mandate that said opposite sex siblings shouldn't share after the age of 6 ...they are currently 8 & 9.(I didn;t move the two boys in together because a young boy and a mastrubating teen shouldn't share a room, lol) My daughter is actually pre-pubescent and will be 10 in a couple months, so she definitely needs her own space. I cannot tell you how much it even changed the family dynamics to have each of them in their own domains.
In no way do I buy the crap about not sharing a room past a certain age but even IF that were the case there are ways to manage the situation (I can't even figure out how they'd enforce it). We lived in a 2 bedroom house while my boys were growing up. When they wanted their own rooms we got two cheap shelves from Walmart and put them next to each other (each boy had a shelf and the back of one that they could use as a "wall" to hang posters on or whatever). They shared a closet but each had a small dresser.
One could also expect one's masturbating teen to be more discreet when whacking off. My children weren't the least bit harmed by their spartan upbringing. They did, however, learn that respect & cooperation makes everyone's life more pleasant. Size of one's environment has little to do with a child's stability. I had a mostly upper middle class upbringing and my life was chaos from sun up to sunset. Parents, not house size sets the tone of a family's life.
They sent me a letter about my re-certification appointment coming up, and buried in the 4th paragraph was a comment that said since my teen had moved out, i was lowered to a 2 bedroom voucher status...NOWHERE on any of my paperwork did I see the $1300 reduced to $1050...only that line, and the generic newsletter they sent us in July of 2010 stating that they were changing the general rules due to budget cute...all BURIED info.
I read it, but in July of 2010, it didn't apply to me, and it went past my eyeballs and out my brain...
So you get a letter that says you were being downsized to a smaller home and didn't once think to call (or ask at the re-certification appointment) and ask if that meant that there would be a change in your housing allowance? YOU'RE responsible for making sure your family's needs are met NOT the government. Adults have to deal with those kinds of issues: rent goes up, job changes, car needs repairs, new landlord has new requirements, deposits from one place to the other are different, etc.
So here i get my current rent breakdown, still NOWHERE does it list my actual VOUCHER amount... Just $1300 rent, what they pay and what I pay... no explanation of how it is broken down, because they do tricky averaging and plus minus percentages on their worksheet which i never get to see...
Again, you didn't think to call? We have insurance that pays our house payment if he loses a job because of this kind of situation. Still, when my husband's company closed and he was out of work , it didn't magically kick in, we had to get the paperwork together and coordinate between insurance and mortgage company & be responsible for making up any difference between the 2 amounts. I kind of expect to have to be responsible for these kinds of things.
my rent wen up $500 ...more than I get in welfare for the entire month! why? because I am living beyond my means?
I was IN the Office, for my appointment with the Supervisor for an hour in july...signing my life away again & again, and she NEVER said to me,
"you know, you are only getting a voucher for a 2 bedroom now.."
I'm confused. You already got a letter saying you were being downsized but because the supervisor didn't mention it you thought it didn't really happen? How would she know you hadn't already called into the office and asked? How could you assume it was her responsibility to tell you? Good Lord, you're a parent, you owe it to your children to keep their lives as stable as possible.
So now I have to hustle an extra few hundred a month to keep my house, or move?... where? ....uproot my kids AGAIN...? and where am I going to FIND that extra income when there are NO ****ing JOBS and I am lucky to work even 10 hours a week for a non-profit? and if that extra job/income causes me to pay for after school care, it is NOT extra money because daycare sucks up the wages!
Yeah, like other families NOT on public assistance don't have to worry about the same things or make the same choices every day. Poor baby!
I have been struggling my ENTIRE adult life to make something better out of NOTHING. and i feel this huge hand on my head holding me down. I even took advantage of welfare to work and drove 150 miles for 6 months to get a certification in HR management in 2008/09...but I can't break into the field because it isn't a BA, so it did me NO good
I am just. so. done.
I don't want this life anymore, but i don't know how to break free... my heart hurts, i am having trouble breathing, my stress level is off the charts... I want to scream and break shit. I am screwn.
Golly, how about starting at an entry level job: file clerk, receptionist, general office clerk and working your way up? Imagine if you'd done that 4 or 5 years ago how far you'd be now! Nice to see all the taxpayer funds you've received have been put to such good use.
Cindie
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How can people claiming to be so smart, so super educated, be so damn poor ?
It's a claim repeated often at the DUmp.
I think they're either lazy or crazy. Probably both.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-21-10 11:59 PM
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72. Lol, my folks are so old-school...depression-era folks
My dad is 78, mom is 74...He sits in front of Faux all day and is very limited in his views (and for so many years growing up he was a Dem, too.) Mom is more liberal. But I think it is a condition of their generation to be ruled by fear and anxiety.
No, they don't live there, it's never been more than a wekend thing when was a kid. Now the property is all but abandoned...with a 3 bd house too..nobody has even BEEN up there for a few years...they check on it every five years or so, just to make sure the road hasn;t washed out or the house fallen apart or the property hasn;t been taken over by the pot growers. (hehe)
But the water supply is not reliable and a MODERN well needs to be surveyed and dug... the road really does need some real grading with a dozer and maybe a layer of good gravel (or that new eco-asphalt that filters the water through to avoid erosion) to keep it stable...and I would love to retrofit the house for solar, etc...
*sigh* ...I swear, it really sux knowing it is there and I can't access it. I have been telling my whole family that I am going to LIVE there and FARM one day since I was a teen... they all think I am nuts. They Like infrastructure. wierdos.
Healdsbrg, eh? do you know Armstrong Redwoods outside of Guerneville? ya, nice area...remote and good growing season and climate...
Ahh, now I get the picture.
We've been supporting this unproductive, never go anywhere leach for so long because she has no incentive at all to do better---her plan is to take over her parents land once they croak. What a bitch. Sorry, but what an absolute bitch. I hope her parents have a will leaving all that beautiful country to someone deserving. And you know what, they probably know about your little pot habit and it's why they don't want your sorry ne'er do well ass living up on their property. :hammer:
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How can people claiming to be so smart, so super educated, be so damn poor ?
It's a claim repeated often at the DUmp.
I think they're either lazy or crazy. Probably both.
And lying, they always lie.
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Good gosh, woman! Good for you leaving an abusive relationship, but that was seven years ago. It's time to put on your big girl panties and support your family yourself. Move to someplace cheaper. I have never heard of a law or "rule" that said opposite sex children cannot share a room.
If I were to get pregnant and have a boy, our daughter and new baby would be sharing a room. We cannot afford to move to a larger place right now. We are staying where we are because it's what fits our budget. Sometimes you need to downgrade. Get yourself a household budget and support your family with pride, not with taxpayer money for SEVEN YEARS!
Stop being a victim.
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It's time to put on your big girl panties and support your family yourself.
If she kept them on, she wouldn't be in this predicament.
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If she kept them on, she wouldn't be in this predicament.
This is true.
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When we had or first child we lived in a one bedroom apartment...and I went back to work three weeks after I had him. My husband was in collage, I was the only one working full time and I didn't get paid maternity. You do what you have to do DUmmie, if you did what you had to do years ago (and I'm talking WAY before the 7 years you have been a drain on this country) you wouldn't be in the situation you are in now.
You are a LOSER and will NEVER be anything else. You don't have it in you to be anything but what you are right now. Everyone slips and falls at some point, people like you stay down.
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A masturbating teen?? That was way too much info for me or to put in the net...
Can I dropkick her now?? 7 years?? holy crap!!
Something tells me, she doesn't want to make any sacrafices...
If some one reports her for any reason to DHS. They'll look into the situation, and they might have standards. (That mght be something for Nadine to google for us eh?? :wink:)
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When we had or first child we lived in a one bedroom apartment...and I went back to work three weeks after I had him. My husband was in collage, I was the only one working full time and I didn't get paid maternity. You do what you have to do DUmmie, if you did what you had to do years ago (and I'm talking WAY before the 7 years you have been a drain on this country) you wouldn't be in the situation you are in now.
You are a LOSER and will NEVER be anything else. You don't have it in you to be anything but what you are right now. Everyone slips and falls at some point, people like you stay down.
No maternity leave pay for me either. We had to (GASP!!) save up enough money while I was pregnant so we could afford to have me off eight weeks before heading right back to work again.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-21-10 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #58
72. Lol, my folks are so old-school...depression-era folks
My dad is 78, mom is 74...He sits in front of Faux all day and is very limited in his views (and for so many years growing up he was a Dem, too.) Mom is more liberal. But I think it is a condition of their generation to be ruled by fear and anxiety.
No, they don't live there, it's never been more than a wekend thing when was a kid. Now the property is all but abandoned...with a 3 bd house too..nobody has even BEEN up there for a few years...they check on it every five years or so, just to make sure the road hasn;t washed out or the house fallen apart or the property hasn;t been taken over by the pot growers. (hehe)
But the water supply is not reliable and a MODERN well needs to be surveyed and dug... the road really does need some real grading with a dozer and maybe a layer of good gravel (or that new eco-asphalt that filters the water through to avoid erosion) to keep it stable...and I would love to retrofit the house for solar, etc...
*sigh* ...I swear, it really sux knowing it is there and I can't access it. I have been telling my whole family that I am going to LIVE there and FARM one day since I was a teen... they all think I am nuts. They Like infrastructure. wierdos.
Healdsbrg, eh? do you know Armstrong Redwoods outside of Guerneville? ya, nice area...remote and good growing season and climate...
Oh, you've GOT to be kidding! I went to Healdsburg High for a year when I lived with my dad. My stepsister lives in Guerneville, and my half sister lives in Windsor. We ran around the grape vineyards and rode our dirt bikes out there all the time. Used to party at The Woods when I was in college because it was a gay bar and you could always get into them even if you didn't have ID. This, of course, was just before I met my husband who took be away from all this debauchery!
Cindie
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 03:42 PM
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Is it really MY fault?
Yes. STFU
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Alright, this thread has been chapping my ass all day. And Ms. FirstLight has also been kicking it all day (I'll eat my hat if she doesn't have a PayPal account, wink, wink). Here is an exerpt from her latest whoa is me entry: ...and yes, I am one of those who think our President and ALL of congress are bought and paid for....and the 2% will continue to squeeze us until we are dry...
Squeeze us until we are dry? Really? Who the f&ck do you think has given you a free ride for years? Who? The fatherless family living in Section 8 next door to you? And why your masturbating son did not sleep on the couch or an air mattress is beyond me. And, FirstLight, I noticed in your journal that you rallied your hairdresser and dog groomer to help with the BP spill. That happened 2 years after you had been on "cash aid", and you still had a hairdresser and dog groomer?
Beside the fact that you make me physically ill, you are either the best mole ever, demonstrating the very reason the right is uprising, or you are simply a scum sucking scourge of society.
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Alright, this thread has been chapping my ass all day. And Ms. FirstLight has also been kicking it all day (I'll eat my hat if she doesn't have a PayPal account, wink, wink). Here is an exerpt from her latest whoa is me entry: ...and yes, I am one of those who think our President and ALL of congress are bought and paid for....and the 2% will continue to squeeze us until we are dry...
Squeeze us until we are dry? Really? Who the f&ck do you think has given you a free ride for years? Who? The fatherless family living in Section 8 next door to you? And why your masturbating son did not sleep on the couch or an air mattress is beyond me. And, FirstLight, I noticed in your journal that you rallied your hairdresser and dog groomer to help with the BP spill. That happened 2 years after you had been on "cash aid", and you still had a hairdresser and dog groomer?
Beside the fact that you make me physically ill, you are either the best mole ever, demonstrating the very reason the right is uprising, or you are simply a scum sucking scourge of society.
Even I felt the crack of that whip.
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property hasn;t been taken over by the pot growers. (hehe)
I think we've seen her plans for her parents property.
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I'm not good with words. But, know that as a single mom who raised three children, went to school for five years, stayed off public assistance with the exception of Medicaid for the kids while in school, and has had a wonderful life... I loathe everything I have read about this rip. What a waste.
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I've got a newsflash for ya, DUmmies--when TSHTF in the not-too-distant future, you want to know who's going to be leading the charge?
Not you. Nor will it be the rich, your convenient foil.
No, denizens and leeches of the Internet and of society, it will be guys like me. Guys who don't have a whole lot in this life, but that which we DO have, came by it by honest hard WORK and sacrifice. For too many years, we've seen you out there, hands out, bitching and pissing that you're not "given" enough of the fruits of MY labor so you can sit on your ass with whatever malady, infirmity, or just weak ****ing excuse you have for not contributing like the rest of us. Here we are, busting our asses to eek out a living while you live nearly as well as we do, and in some cases better than we do, just to be told we're selfish for not giving you MORE.
**** you. Just **** you.
I've paid nearly $30K in federal taxes each of the last two years (2009 and 2010) and on track to pay at least that much again this year. That does NOT include the Social Security that has been raped to death which I'll be lucky if I ever see a dime of my "contributions". Nor does it include state taxes, property taxes, or any of the other myriad of taxes and "fees" we supposedly pay for the benefit of living in a civilized society. And what does this money go to? "Green" companies that go tits up because their products suck. Welfare queens. Food stamps so people can buy steak and lobster while I eat ****ing hamburgers and hot dogs. "Retirement" benefits to people who weren't astute enough to save themselves, or who were gullible enough to think that "da gubmint" gonna provide.
Me, I see taxes as an investment in America. You know, kind of like a stock, bond, or mutual fund. Only problem is this--if America were a company, would YOU invest your hard-earned money in it? I know, hypothetical question since ya'll spend your ****ing welfare checks on bong hits and Cheetos. Your glorious leader talks a good line about having, "skin in the game." Well, I can see where you have some too, although on the side of the sugar tit--taking all, giving nothing, demanding more.
And I've about had it with your shit, you ****ing whiny little bitches. Ruck the **** up and pull your own ****ing weight, or I really WON'T have a problem letting you drown in your own shit.
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Ruck the **** up and pull your own ****ing weight, or I really WON'T have a problem letting you drown in your own shit.
Matter of fact, I won't have any problem holding their pointy little heads under the surface of the shit.
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Someone offers a solution;
SheilaT (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #20
29. Her two sons could have shared a room.
If she was concerned about the teen's behavior, how about talking to the teen about what is and is not appropriate to do in front of younger brother?
Mom and daughter can share a room.
I do know that the employment picture is quite rough, but the hospital I work in generally has about a hundred job openings at any time. Yes, most of them are for nurses, so anyone who has a nursing degree and claims there's no work is flat-out lying. But there are ALWAYS openings in other parts of the hospital: for registration people (that department has had 75% turnover in the two years since I first started); the lab, where they will train you to draw blood; for unit secretaries; even housekeeping and food service usually have openings.
The up side of hospital employment is that it generally includes good health benefits.
"There are no jobs" if you're looking in a lot of specific fields, but ever since I moved to Santa Fe (considered a difficult place to get work even in good times) at age 60, I have had no trouble finding work. Yes, it's all entry-level, not the highest paid out there, but it pays my bills.
I did not suggest there is endless money for retraining, but my hospital will reimburse most of the cost of classes relevant to the area you're in, and I'm pretty sure will pay for most of nursing school.
But that shit ain't gonna fly;
FirstLight (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. you don't get it
it's about stability, and the teen is out of the picture now so that's a moot point to argue.(though 'talking to the teen' was never an option either) The house is someplace we have been for 4 years after moving EVERY year since we have been free from the ex...that isn't healthy for them emotionally, it has been a HUGE struggle. No, I will find a way to make another $300-500 a month to stay here, even if it means ...well, we won't go there.
Hospital Jobs: there is ONE in town and it is not hiring, it's laying off. So is the City for that matter, it ain't pretty.
ANY job I go for, even an executive secretary position...like the P/T one i have now with a prominent non profit, pays $10/hr, that's it. No more if yuou have decades of experience, or great skills... just $10...some even as low as $8.50
I went back to school already, and it didn;t help for shit, can;t even get into the field i trained in.
So I am back to doing what I know, freelancing, design, minor webwork...if i can find it. gonna beat the bushes some more.
anything i do will require more than 4 hours of work ($40) in afterschool care.
so ya, thanks but no thanks
Now she says they've moved EVERY year since fleeing the ex .... and they have been in this home for 4 years so let's look at something;
FirstLight (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 04:11 PM
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13. well...
He is an 2 time ex-felon, just out of san quentin this year, we have a restraining order on him and have changed our names to hide... He keeps asking the child support people for an extention to find a job...
besides, he is also a child-pron addict (misdemeanor, they had to examine my daughter when she was 2 to see if he hurt her, inconclusive results)
and his big bust in 06 (we bailed in 04) was for selling drugs and assault... so ya, I am afraid to touch that with a 10 foot pole
Ok, so that was less than 6 years ago and they've been in this home for 4 years yet they moved EVERY single year since fleeing the ex ...
:lmao:
Life must be horrible.
KC
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She needs a man.
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Good catch, Texacon, but that's too much math for them.
Reading all five pages of this...you know what? Words are failing me.
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No man wants a lazy doped up chick.
I have always thought that Drug Testing is Unconstitutional. And yes, while it makes sense in heavy equipment operations, for admin. work, filing or answering phones...it is ridiculous to me.
So the guy who goes on a bender all weekend and whose blood or urine is clean by monday can do whatever...but if I smoke a joint it is in my body for a month and I am the one who gets penalized? bullshit!
I have recently re-connected with a temp agency I used to do work for about 10 years ago...and in their NEW! 13 page application and reference and background check, is a form about drug testing... saying that "some" places want their temps tested, and if you test positive, you will be INELIGIBLE. Not just for that particular job, but for ALL positions for 6 months!
Why can't I tell these employers that I refuse to submit to these tests?
Why don't I have the OPTION to refuse and sign a waiver or something?
where are MY rights?
oh, so sorry...I am just a Prole...I have none.
(...THIS is why I need to make my freelancing business work for ME, because this is straight up bullshit and I am NOT working for a ****ing PRISON system...)
She needs to hook up with The Straight Story.
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Good catch, Texacon, but that's too much math for them.
Reading all five pages of this...you know what? Words are failing me.
I think this has some bouncy feel to me.
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This *thing* is nearly 50 years old and still smokes dope like a teenager? I'm surprised her brain doesn't resemble Swiss cheese.
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I think this has some bouncy feel to me.
It's looking more and more like she is looking for a hand out. She kicked her thread twice last night for "The Night Crew".
KC
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This *thing* is nearly 50 years old and still smokes dope like a teenager? I'm surprised her brain doesn't resemble Swiss cheese.
My own attitude, exactly.
I mean, come on now, we all have to grow up sooner or later.
Dope's something one does in the late teenaged, early twenties, years, and then grows out of it; if one's still doing dope by, say, the age of 23, one's a loser for life.
Geezuz, I get accused, perhaps rightfully so, of being juvenile in some things every now and then, but nobody's ever accused me of being irresponsible and deluded.
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It's looking more and more like she is looking for a hand out. She kicked her thread twice last night for "The Night Crew".
KC
The assistance I would be humbly happy to offer is a call to social services about her illegal drug use, possibly around her children.
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Good gosh, woman! Good for you leaving an abusive relationship, but that was seven years ago. It's time to put on your big girl panties and support your family yourself. Move to someplace cheaper. I have never heard of a law or "rule" that said opposite sex children cannot share a room.
If I were to get pregnant and have a boy, our daughter and new baby would be sharing a room. We cannot afford to move to a larger place right now. We are staying where we are because it's what fits our budget. Sometimes you need to downgrade. Get yourself a household budget and support your family with pride, not with taxpayer money for SEVEN YEARS!
Stop being a victim.
When I was twelve and my brother was 8, my cousin and his wife moved in with my parents for about a year. My parents had a three bedroom house, so my cousin and his wife got my room, and I got moved to a bunk bed in my brother's room. I usually did my homework at the kitchen table, I went into the backyard if I wanted to play alone, and I learned to bring my clothes into the bathroom before taking a shower. My brother and I ended up be well adjusted adults (well, my brother is still in college, but he is getting there) despite having opposite sex children sharing a room as older children.
I can't believe that she would even consider "masturbation" as a reason not to have same sex children sharing a room. If her older child is enough of a perv that he can't figure out not to do that in front of a younger sibling then he has some serious mental issues.
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She probably won't kick her post today. It's the first of the month. Time to shop and replace the weed.
That's a fine parent right there. :whatever:
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She probably won't kick her post today. It's the first of the month. Time to shop and replace the weed.
That's a fine parent right there. :whatever:
Probably a good call there. It's payday.
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The biggest problem with DUmmies is they think they are too educated to do real work. Nothing is below you if it keeps you fed and housed. Especially if you have kids.
I could walk outside of my house right now and make money without leaving the neighborhood. And I'm not talking hooking. :-)
It kills me knowing my husband not only worked two jobs back in the day but now works all over the place to keep us taken care of while she sits home smoking dope drinking wine and has the nerve to say she's not getting her fair share.
BULL****
My sympathy ran out when the tax man took enough from us to keep someone else in comfort, for free. And that bonus my husband gets for a job well done gets eaten too. THAT AIN'T FAIR.
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Someone offers a solution;
But that shit ain't gonna fly;
Now she says they've moved EVERY year since fleeing the ex .... and they have been in this home for 4 years so let's look at something;
Ok, so that was less than 6 years ago and they've been in this home for 4 years yet they moved EVERY single year since fleeing the ex ...
:lmao:
Life must be horrible.
KC
I read that differently, Tex. I read it as they had moved every year UNTIL they lived in the house they are in currently for 4 years--so 3 years of moving and 4 years at this house--04 plus 7=11(current year). All that said, she doesn't say whether those 3 years were spent in the same neighborhood. For me, when I divorced, the important thing was to keep the kids in the same schools, not the same house. But yeah, 7 years out from this, you bet I don't want the government to be making my decisions for me. I plan to be fully self-sufficient, even if I never marry again or any of that, I want to be able to take care of myself and my children/grandchildren on my own if necessary.
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So I have been sitting here this morning and reading this for the very first time. I am literally dick (DAMN YOU AUTOCORRECT!!!! HAHA) to my stomach. How many people in this country receive this type of handout? The amount she is given by the taxpayers in the amount of a housing allowance is nearly as much as our house payment. WTF?
And she has a dog groomer AND a hairdresser?
Our country has certainlyngone to shit, hasn't it? I know people like to play the "but republicans do it too" game but it is the liberal policies pushed by liberal wingnuts in this country that have gotten us here and they aren't content. They want more!!!!!!
It maybe time to burn one of my moles ( who already had a comment deleted through an alert by Nadin) and send this loser a PM or post in that thread.
Oh, my blood is boiling.
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This is a post of hers from earlier in August. Someone needs to report this person. She's a leech on society and an irresponsible parent. This is just one clue but I'm sure there are many more, other than the several listed above.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x143182
FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Aug-01-11 07:57 PM
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I am so embarassed
went to a Bday BBq for my new boss yesterday.... it was nice, and I stayed too late... and drank too much... :(
My babysitter called the boss house because i took so long to get home, and when i rolled up i was wasted and should NOT have been driving.
I don't even remember the babysitter's mom picking her up...
oh geez! so i was drinking margaritas, like lemonade...it was hot i was thirsty and i totally forgot the tequiila factor until it was too late. and that stupid cognitive ability was gone so i didn't stop when i should have had dinner instead.
It wasn't till this morning that i realized that i couldn't remember getting home and pieces of the evening after that...gawd, did i make a fool of myself at the party? dread, embarassment and more dread
worrying about going to work tomorrow, my boss is gonna ask me if i was okay, and probably give me a lecture about driving drunk.
i know, i know, it was wrong, bad and stupid! I just don't know where my common sense went...well, i guess i do, i threw it in the blender with the margaritas! shit! I so rarely go out and get to be with grownups, that i overcompensate and get myself in trouble....
*sigh* no amount of penance can help, the damage is done, and now more than one person probably thinks i am a lush...
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I read that differently, Tex. I read it as they had moved every year UNTIL they lived in the house they are in currently for 4 years--so 3 years of moving and 4 years at this house--04 plus 7=11(current year). All that said, she doesn't say whether those 3 years were spent in the same neighborhood. For me, when I divorced, the important thing was to keep the kids in the same schools, not the same house. But yeah, 7 years out from this, you bet I don't want the government to be making my decisions for me. I plan to be fully self-sufficient, even if I never marry again or any of that, I want to be able to take care of myself and my children/grandchildren on my own if necessary.
Your reading of it may be correct but even at that I wouldn't take a comment like "EVERY single year ..." seriously on a move a year for 3 years. Hell I've done that on my own.
This is exactly what happens when you give someone something. They want more and they want less. More house, less work in having said house.
This chick is pissed because she is going to have to downsize to a smaller home that she doesn't have to pay for. It pisses me off. If she doesn't need the larger home then she shouldn't expect the tax payers to shell out for the larger home just because it is more 'convenient' for her.
KC
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I have a "dog groomer" and a "hairdresser" too. Her name is Scoobie.
The same set of trimmers cut the dog's hair and mine.
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the damage is done, and now more than one person probably thinks i am a lush...
No, you dumbass skank, they KNOW you're a lush if you drink until you black out.
And you don't have money for rent but you do to go out and party?
In the words of Cartman, "Kill...you...guys..."
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This is a post of hers from earlier in August. Someone needs to report this person. She's a leech on society and an irresponsible parent. This is just one clue but I'm sure there are many more, other than the several listed above.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x143182
She is a disgusting parasite.
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Your reading of it may be correct but even at that I wouldn't take a comment like "EVERY single year ..." seriously on a move a year for 3 years. Hell I've done that on my own.
This is exactly what happens when you give someone something. They want more and they want less. More house, less work in having said house.
This chick is pissed because she is going to have to downsize to a smaller home that she doesn't have to pay for. It pisses me off. If she doesn't need the larger home then she shouldn't expect the tax payers to shell out for the larger home just because it is more 'convenient' for her.
KC
I'm with you...she wants us to pay for her convenience. She has one less person in her household and wants the same size house. And like trav, what she's alloted to begin with was about the same as my old mortgage. I pay less then that in rent now with NO taxpayer help and we had to give a bedroom up---*gasp*!!! Seriously...come on now!
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Getting sloppy drunk at the boss's house is not the way to get promoted or keep your job. Who wants to bet she got all flirty there too ?
Driving drunk ? Another parental fail.
I would never post the things she did for public eyes. She's gotta be stupid.
dick. BWAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!! Silly Trav. :rotf:
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FirstLight (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-31-11 10:53 PM
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31. you don't get it
it's about stability, and the teen is out of the picture now so that's a moot point to argue.(though 'talking to the teen' was never an option either)
Uh, what? Wait a minute, you preach non-stop about "stability" and taking some kind of control over your son "was never an option"?
Really?!?
Prison and juvie centers are slammed full of lovely little gems like your eldest dumpling, retard. Hope it was worth it to frig him and your youngest two over because you're a train wreck.
The house is someplace we have been for 4 years after moving EVERY year since we have been free from the ex...that isn't healthy for them emotionally, it has been a HUGE struggle. No, I will find a way to make another $300-500 a month to stay here, even if it means ...well, we won't go there.
So, you have had to move a total of 4 times in 7 years while 4 of those years you have been in one place. Oh, the horror!
:whatever:
If you were so worried about "healthy" for your children, you could have really struggled and dug yourself out of the hole you ended up being at the bottom of and, maybe, put the friggin' dope down. Been a, you know, inspiration for your children.
Instead you lived with your hand out and complained it was never good enough. Yeah, real good example, "mom".
Hospital Jobs: there is ONE in town and it is not hiring, it's laying off. So is the City for that matter, it ain't pretty.
Damn, that's horrible. How about McDonalds? Hardees? Home Depot? Lowes? How're they doing?
ANY job I go for, even an executive secretary position...like the P/T one i have now with a prominent non profit, pays $10/hr, that's it. No more if yuou [sic] have decades of experience, or great skills... just $10...some even as low as $8.50
Ah, I see. Not worth your time since they aren't willing to pay you an executive level salary, got it. :whatever:
So I am back to doing what I know
Mooching, getting high, bitching on DU.....
anything i do will require more than 4 hours of work ($40) in afterschool care.
so ya, thanks but no thanks
Well, looter, it's your call. Don't whine about how bad the shit tastes as your head goes under.
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my mom made a good point, she has watched me struggle through this system and bullshit since i was 22, and she said.."you always have this happen, you start getting ahead and feeling good about yourself, and they hamstring you for it." this time, she said, don't let them stop me, don't give up.
How far "ahead" can you be getting if a change of a couple of hundred bucks a month will make or break you? My thought is that "getting ahead" for this DUmmy means getting more government assistance rather than achieving anything on a personal level.
tired of having my earned income credit TAKEN to pay for student loans on and education that is null & void
That's okay, sweetie. That's MY tax money paying for those loans, since the EIC money was never "yours" to begin with and is simply a way to transfer wealth.
You're welcome.
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Reading her posts from the past through now reveals an awful lot about her and what's important to her. She uses her children as human shields to cover for her irresponsibility.
:banghead:
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Yes she does. It's pathetic.
The perpetual victim.
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Reading her posts from the past through now reveals an awful lot about her and what's important to her. She uses her children as human shields to cover for her irresponsibility.
:banghead:
For those of us 'impaired' by full time employment(unlike the dummies) bring a few gems over this way :) I love reading that stuff, but don't have time to get beyond this forum.
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The title of her thread says everything you really need to know about this woman (and I use the term loosely).
The DUmmies and evidently her mom are nothing more than enablers. I wish she would sign up over here. She could get a dose of reality very quickly.
KC
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Her journal reads like a diary.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/FirstLight
She forgets what she says and how many kids she has.
I wish I could find the post where she beats down her sister and BIL for being rich and not helping her. It was something.
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I have a "dog groomer" and a "hairdresser" too. Her name is Scoobie.
The same set of trimmers cut the dog's hair and mine.
:lmao:
To save money I've been cutting my Husbands hair, I was doing my own but figured I'd splurge on my hair at 1 of those discount places.
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Her journal reads like a diary.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/FirstLight
She forgets what she says and how many kids she has.
I wish I could find the post where she beats down her sister and BIL for being rich and not helping her. It was something.
Are FirstLight and Journalgrrl one and the same?
KC
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The biggest problem with DUmmies is they think they are too educated to do real work. Nothing is below you if it keeps you fed and housed. Especially if you have kids.
I could walk outside of my house right now and make money without leaving the neighborhood. And I'm not talking hooking. :-)
It kills me knowing my husband not only worked two jobs back in the day but now works all over the place to keep us taken care of while she sits home smoking dope drinking wine and has the nerve to say she's not getting her fair share.
BULL****
My sympathy ran out when the tax man took enough from us to keep someone else in comfort, for free. And that bonus my husband gets for a job well done gets eaten too. THAT AIN'T FAIR.
I hate to admit this but my brother (God rest his soul) thought he was too good to take any job that was not in his field, not just his field but the level he had reached. He was unemployed for a couple years after being fired from his job at Oracle. He wouldn't accept a job that was beneath him. He was on the verge of losing his house, had spent all his savings and 401k. He died feeling desperate and like a loser (he didn't know he had gotten a job he so desperately wanted, they called the day after he died).
He was brilliant, literally too smart for his own good. Skipped 3rd grade, received a full scholarship because he was so smart. Decided he wanted to live in New York so he moved there, not having a job. Lived at the YMCA for a couple weeks, got a job programming for Chase Manhattan bank. Got an apartment and eventually got a second job teaching programming during the evening at NYU. Then he got a new job at Oracle and moved to MN. Bought a brand new house, had savings and money in his 401k. Then he married his drug pusher DUER type wife, lost his job, got addicted to drugs, refused to work any job that was beneath him. He died feeling like a loser who lost everything he had worked for his whole life. He had the mindset of an elitist type liberal but he didn't just think he was the smartest person in the room, he really was the smartest person in the room.
When he was doing something he loved he worked hard, if he had to work a job just to survive he wouldn't do it. He was never the type to do what you have to to survive (I'm not just talking his job, I'm talking taking care of his lawn, upkeep on his house or car or making sure his bills were paid on time, those types of things). That was one of his biggest flaws. I have often wondered what he would have done if he had a child, would he have "done what it takes" to get by until he got a job "worthy" of his presence? My husband worked three jobs, totally unrelated to his field (or "beneath" him as DUers would say), after he lost his first "real" job out of collage. He (and I would as well) will always "do what it takes" no matter how "low" the job may be.
I don't like the fact that I doubt that my brother would have done any job he could to support his child if he had one. It makes me really sad that I feel this way but I do.
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She is a disgusting parasite.
Yes, basically.
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Her journal reads like a diary.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/FirstLight
She forgets what she says and how many kids she has.
I wish I could find the post where she beats down her sister and BIL for being rich and not helping her. It was something.
A pleasure to be of assistance.
Hard to believe we came from the same womb ...
Posted by Journalgrrl in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Sun Oct 26th 2008, 01:35 AM
My sister is about 5 years older than me. We have always been pretty different. I am the expressive one, trying to "find myself" and having many jobs and lifestyles in that search...while she did exactly as she was trained to do, get a good job, credit, husband, etc...
Now, her and her husband have a pretty nice house in Washoe Co. she works full time and he is home to take care of the kids since he is on permanent disability (3 back surgeries...) They have a boat, cars, and TONS of debt...because they live on their plastic and if anything should happen to her job their lifestyle would be in the crapper. I have often envied her for her "stable" life, and the fact that she has done it all "right" They don't make $250K a year though, they are just average americans by most standards.
I am a renter and have a section 8 subsidy for help to pay my rent, single mom of 3 and 2 bad exes over the last 20 years..i have never owned anything of value, can't get a credit card to save my life and have trouble just keeping a bank account open, because I play it so close to the vest to live. i did find my passion in career, i work part time for my church and the other half of my time I pick up freelancing writing gigs with our local news rag and do web design and mktg...still it is nickels and dimes compared to a steady job - but 40+ hours a week has never worked for me, especially with a special needs child.
Now - here's what I am getting to.
My sis & B-i-L were up at the folk's cabin this weekend, and I stooped by to see them and let our kids play. Within the first 5 minutes, my sister nods to my obama button and says, "you better take that off before my husband sees it."
I was like...:"excuuse me?"
she says "well, he's for the other ones" (couldn't even say Mccain or palin's names?)
i said "too bad he will be crying in his beer Nov 5th"
she says "what a sad day that will be"
again, shocked...I said "what, are you serious?"
she said "we don't like 'that one'...can't trust him...don't buy his spiel, he's fake..."
Are you ****ing kidding me!???
I changed the subject and walked away, trying to avoid a confrontation......went to play with the kids. As I am standing there talking to her about our health, etc... I am thinking I don't even know this person, she is my sister, and I know her less than an acquaintance...how are we even of the same womb and upbringing... !
so as we are all going out to the cars in about an hour,
Her husband makes a snide comment about tearing off my bumper stickers...
I just looked them both in the face and said
"you know, YES, I AM a peace-mongering, liberal, care for my fellow man, hippie.... there's one in every family I guess, Better get used to it!"
I kept it light, but they could tell I wasn't going to feel ashamed for my choices.
enough said, I got the kids in the car and got out of there before I got mad....
they wanted to get together for lunch tomorrow but we were busy and I won't have to deal with them until after the election...
I got home and called my Mom, just to say I couldn't believe that she had swung that way... and she said they don't even vote! ...so they have no real right to an opinion since they don't care enough to vote! This is my southern, Barack-voting Momma who grew up deep in Mississippi and just recently decided He was the only hope we had for the future!
Good, two LESS we have to worry about!
ugh.
I love my sister, but sometimes I think my mom had an affair with the milkman because I am SO different from her and my dad! Yikes!
Discuss (19 comments) | Recommend (+1 votes)
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Journalgrrl/63
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As frank says; DUmmies lie. DUmmies lie all the time;
Irony? I want to host/go to a MoveOn Healthcare Vigil... but I am sick!
Posted by Journalgrrl in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Tue Sep 01st 2009, 11:47 AM
ha...that's not funny.
As a Medi-CAL patient for my entire adult life, I have been my own advocate for my health and that of my kids for years...
Thank godness I actually took pre-med clases in college and have a working knowledge of the human body and can ask questions and demand tests, etc from my LESS THAN MEDIOCRE doctors - There is only ONE dentist in town that takes MediCAL and only ONE pediatrician, and only ONE clinic with a rotating door for patients and docs...it's amazing we haven't found ourselves in dire straits due to falling through the cracks. Though on more than one occasion I have had to tell the doc at the clinic "I'm not leaving until you do the strep test!" ...when they are telling me I am upset NOT because I am SICK - but that I need ANTI_DEPRESSANTS!
<snip>
Med Students use Art to describe experiences with cadavers...
Posted by Journalgrrl in General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010)
Tue Aug 18th 2009, 04:47 PM
This was an interesting article about the use of Cadavers in Medical school lessons. I had no idea that Med students only spend one semester with their cadavers...I thought it was (at least) a full year! How many doctors really have the expreience to see their patients as people, much less as people who experience pain and the discomfort and helplessness of death?
<snip>
:-)
So which is it?? Pre-Med or No-Idea what lies she has told.
KC
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High school biology class=pre-med. du/mode
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She partakes in medical marijuana which instantly qualifies her as a medical expert.
:rofl:
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I love my sister, but sometimes I think my mom had an affair with the milkman because I am SO different from her and my dad! Yikes!
Hey mental moron, your father is the milkman.
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She sure loves to capitalize whole words A LOT!
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:lmao:
To save money I've been cutting my Husbands hair, I was doing my own but figured I'd splurge on my hair at 1 of those discount places.
Fortunately for me, I've never been able to wear my hair long since the age of 17. Hate it hate it hate it. She gives GOOD high and tight cuts.
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:lmao:
To save money I've been cutting my Husbands hair, I was doing my own but figured I'd splurge on my hair at 1 of those discount places.
I don't even go close to the wife if she has a sharp, pointed object in her hands. :old:
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...the discomfort and helplessness of death
What?
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Aug-31-11 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. it's terribly scary, isn;t it?
...and yes, I am one of those who think our President and ALL of congress are bought and paid for....and the 2% will continue to squeeze us until we are dry...
My teen is unemployed and trying to get financial aid for school, who knows. and no, he can;t move back in, we are seriously at odds and barely speaking...he is living in a cabin with a roommate and they are living on pnut butter and cereal basically...and the good graces of my mother. (some enabling going on, but who am I to talk? we are all screwn these days)
I dunno, just have to keep trying the different channels to get more hours here or there somewhere. Kmart is hiring, but I have terrible arthritis and can't stand for long periods...though I still don't qualify for disability or anything... we don;t wanna talk about medical stuff. One of my kids has a birth defect, and she doesn't qualify for any assistance either...(cuz she is only blind in ONE eye, and has a cyst on her brain, but she's functional, so she's just peachy)
I am waiting for it all to crumble, but unfortunately, when it does, we will be in worse shape, and without ammo.
What an effed up POS poor excuse for a mother? How old is this teen? If he is under 18, it is illegal to throw your kid out the house and leave them to fend for themselves. Wonder if the poor kid told his mother to lay off the booze and pot and get her lazy ass off the computer and get a job and that is why she threw him out? Too bad SS hasn't taken her other two kids, then she would be without all her little money makers.
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I contacted my buddies in the newspaper biz to ask if i could sell advertizing and build ads for commission under the table
I don't have room to talk about my punctuation or grammar but damn I'm not in the writing businesses like this clown appears to be. Random capitalization, commas and semicolons just doesn't seem to be the trademark of a so-called writer.
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...the discomfort and helplessness of death
What?
Sure man, cadavers are people too. Can't you imagine just lying there on the slab, naked, wishing someone would at least throw a sheet over your nads?
"Lah-de-dah...ho-hum...so boring down here in the cooler. If I hear that ****in' pathologist hum 'The Girl From Ipanema' one more time... Geez, I wish someone would scratch my nose. Shit's driving me crazy. Oh no, there's that asshole with the bone saw again. Hope he keeps going. Whew! That was a close. Hey! Can a guy get a sheet over here? A towel? Hell, toss me one of those Mickey D napkins over here. Help a body out, willya? My jewels are frosted. And why is my head on this block? Is there a shortage of pillows in this dive? Freakin' animals. Dead guys have feelings too, ya know?"
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...(cuz she is only blind in ONE eye, and has a cyst on her brain, but she's functional, so she's just peachy)
This reminded me of SCTV, and the depressing hits of Connie Franklin
I'm losing my hearing,
Lost sight in one eye.
What? I can't hear you,
did you just say goodbye?
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Is this woman still going on and on and playing the victim?
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What a loser. You'd think you'd be able to figure out, being the smartest people on the planet, that your life is the product of your choices. If you haven't "found" yourself at 50 then for God's sake just forget about it. While you're trying to find yourself you're giving your kids a hell of a crappy life! How about you stop trying to find yourself (which focuses on YOU) and start making life better for your kids. YOU had them, YOU dragged them through 2 bad relationships. Again, if you're so intelligent why couldn't you pick better men? Or maybe they weren't so bad, they just thought that their house would be clean, laundry done, etc. Since you've been so busy finding yourself you probably mistook normal expectations in a relationship with abuse.
While you're the one whining and bitching you're forcing your precious children to live in a chaos of your making. YOU should be willing to do anything to provide for your kids. Even 3 minimum wage part time jobs. But no, you're teaching them to be victims, to go through life thinking the world is against them, with no hope, no ambition, no reason to strive for something better. For all your complaining about your abusive relationship (might rethink that superior IQ if you pick 2 assholes in a row), check the life you're giving your kids. Mental abuse is sometimes worse than physical abuse. Bruises heal, spirits not so easily and not without some nasty residue.
But you insult your sister because she's decided providing a good life for her family is worth the sacrifice. And I'd bet you anything (except you have nothing to bet) that part about your sister NOT voting is a lie. She pays taxes, she's got a vested interest. Her hard earned money is going to fund your loser lifestyle while you sit there and have the gall to put her down. And you actually think you're better than her because you think "profound" thoughts about "fairness" (well, you've got time on your hands). It's not your compassion, your love of your fellow man, it's your greed because YOU think you're not getting enough. If you really were concerned about people and caring you'd start with your own children.
Cindie
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What a loser. You'd think you'd be able to figure out, being the smartest people on the planet, that your life is the product of your choices. If you haven't "found" yourself at 50 then for God's sake just forget about it. While you're trying to find yourself you're giving your kids a hell of a crappy life! How about you stop trying to find yourself (which focuses on YOU) and start making life better for your kids. YOU had them, YOU dragged them through 2 bad relationships. Again, if you're so intelligent why couldn't you pick better men? Or maybe they weren't so bad, they just thought that their house would be clean, laundry done, etc. Since you've been so busy finding yourself you probably mistook normal expectations in a relationship with abuse.
While you're the one whining and bitching you're forcing your precious children to live in a chaos of your making. YOU should be willing to do anything to provide for your kids. Even 3 minimum wage part time jobs. But no, you're teaching them to be victims, to go through life thinking the world is against them, with no hope, no ambition, no reason to strive for something better. For all your complaining about your abusive relationship (might rethink that superior IQ if you pick 2 assholes in a row), check the life you're giving your kids. Mental abuse is sometimes worse than physical abuse. Bruises heal, spirits not so easily and not without some nasty residue.
But you insult your sister because she's decided providing a good life for her family is worth the sacrifice. And I'd bet you anything (except you have nothing to bet) that part about your sister NOT voting is a lie. She pays taxes, she's got a vested interest. Her hard earned money is going to fund your loser lifestyle while you sit there and have the gall to put her down. And you actually think you're better than her because you think "profound" thoughts about "fairness" (well, you've got time on your hands). It's not your compassion, your love of your fellow man, it's your greed because YOU think you're not getting enough. If you really were concerned about people and caring you'd start with your own children.
Cindie
I've always said that about the ungrateful types on welfare who use their children to sham people into giving them more. My question has always been, why am I supposed to care more about your children then you obviously do that years since having them you are still begging with a cup in hand to meet not just their needs, but their wants. It's not surprising some kids get in gangs and such a cling to the false bit of pride they find there--because they've never got the lesson about doing anything for that feeling or purpose before. It's a good feeling or kids wouldn't turn to destructive stuff like that that mimics the feelings of pride one has in family, community, home, and work. If personal pride could be learned in the home, I'm sure there wouldn't be such a need to go out and find a shred of it destructively on the street.
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Reading these people's rants about their sordid depressing lives is so disturbing and depressing. The DU truly is the sewer system of the country.
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When I was growing up, being on welfare was something people were ashamed of. Now, they wear it like a badge of honor.
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What a loser...
... If you really were concerned about people and caring you'd start with your own children.
Cindie
Oh, man, that was a good response! So true. H5
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When I was growing up, being on welfare was something people were ashamed of. Now, they wear it like a badge of honor.
Even when I was growing up, I remember people being ashamed of being on government assistance. And that really wasn't too long ago.
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H5 Cindie