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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on August 30, 2011, 08:08:46 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1845163
Oh my.
The always-morose Oscar Wilde, the large-proboscised primitive.
Cyrano (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-30-11 01:49 PM
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We’re losing. And we’re losing big.
We Democrats/Liberals/Progressives, or whatever we choose to call ourselves, have spent the last 30 years playing defense. Somewhere along the way, we forgot how to fight back. And we don’t play defense very well. We’re being buried by banks, oil companies and all the rest of that one or two percent who, in effect, “own us.â€
“Own us.†What a despicable idea. I’m talking about those who own almost the entire media. They own most of our federal and state “elected†politicians. And they own many of the next generation of “elected†whores at the local level, who are waiting to sell their souls for influence, wealth and power.
The peasants are kept in line because their votes are guaranteed through fear of “immigrants,†“Muslim terrorists,†“real black equality in America,†and through every other despicable tactic that can be brought to bear. It’s not that hard to exploit ignorance.
So here’s where we are. We Dems seem to have been castrated since the day that the amiable imbecile, Ronald Reagan, infested the Oval Office?
Can this political “game†be turned around? Perhaps. It may take a dozen or a hundred years. And even then, who knows if a new Renaissance will come about? But by then, Earth’s ecological system may have ended us.
So what do you think? Are we losing big? Or are we just in a slump? You already know my opinion.
demwing (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-30-11 01:56 PM
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3. We're are losing, but it aint over till we quit
are you quitting?
"We're are....."
Cyrano (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-30-11 03:05 PM
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33. There's a difference between losing and being sold out.
leveymg (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-30-11 02:01 PM
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8. We had a window of opportunity in 2009 but Obama and the Dem Senate leaders quickly threw it away
Obama had a mandate for a Second New Deal but squandered it playing political softball and footsie with Wall Street.
He'll end up in the history books along with Herbert Hoover as a competent technocrat who lacked the imagination and ideological orientation to push for any real reforms or control over the banks while the country sank into Depression.
Cyrano (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-30-11 03:14 PM
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36. I really, really hope you're wrong, leveymg. Yet, I can't come up with a good argument to refute your opinion.
Herbert Hoover sucked a lot. The idea of Obama's presidency falling into the Hoover sewer is too depressing to contemplate.
So.....can somebody please send Oscar a razor blade, with illustrated instructions?
Please.
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You can make every excuse in the world but the fact is that thinking people reject your belief system as a flawed and hopeless failure.
Beyond that folks with a sense of esteem don`t want to be told they are doomed to fail unless leftist politicians grant an economic pity **** on them.
You lose on every level.
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Cyrano
Somewhere along the way, we forgot how to fight back.
In order to fight back, you have to be armed with something other than BO and halitosis.
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-30-11 02:01 PM
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8. We had a window of opportunity in 2009 but Obama and the Dem Senate leaders quickly threw it away
Obama had a mandate for a Second New Deal more freebies, but squandered it playing political softball and footsie with Wall Street.
He'll end up in the history books along with Herbert Hoover as an incompetent technocrat who lacked the imagination intelligence and ideological orientation to push for any real reforms or control over the banks while the country sank into Depression.
FIFY, you can thank me later.
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3. We're are losing, but it aint over till we quit
Yes, yes you are, and you ain't seen shit yet. :fuelfire:
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Yes, yes you are, and you ain't seen shit yet. :fuelfire:
We can only hope it is something like this:
(http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2010/10/reagan-mondale-1984-electoral-college-map.jpg)
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We Democrats/Liberals/Progressives, or whatever we choose to call ourselves, have spent the last 30 years playing defense.
False. For the past century, this country has been steadily moving left. Social security, medicare, welfare, food stamps, Constitutional violations, political correctness, hate crime legislation, larger and larger government.
Sounds like a fairly decent winning streak for liberals for the past 100 years.
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We Democrats/Liberals/Progressives, or whatever we choose to call ourselves, have spent the last 30 years playing defense. Somewhere along the way, we forgot how to fight back. And we don’t play defense very well. We’re being buried by banks, oil companies and all the rest of that one or two percent who, in effect, “own us.â€
You mean like those banks and oil companies who gave to 0bama despite his unequal status here (good thing there's affirmative action or else he might've actually had to show his transcripts). I'm sure this is just an anomaly:
Goldman Sachs
JP Morgan Chase
Citigroup
UBS AG
Morgan Stanley
Exxon
Chevron
BP
And a few bonus corporations:
Microsoft
Google
Time Warner
National Amusement
Skadden Arps
IBM
GE
Latham & Watkins
Most of this is available at Open Secrets so it's not like you guys couldn't inform yourselves. Perhaps the problem is you're buying the hype from your overlords that Republicans are in the pockets of banks/oil/corporation. You guys continually pull the wool over your own eyes so suck on it, DUmmies.
Cindie
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A mandate for a second New Deal. Right. What does that look like, free stuff for everyone, but just in blue states (excluding the red counties within).
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-30-11 01:49 PM
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We’re losing. And we’re losing big.
Because, well, you're LOSERS, and that's what you do...in life, in work, in relationships, in politics...
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The peasants are kept in line because their votes are guaranteed through fear of “immigrants,†“Muslim terrorists,†“real black equality in America,†and through every other despicable tactic that can be brought to bear. It’s not that hard to exploit ignorance.
The "peasants" are being keep in line through fear of losing their precious entitlements that the libs have chosen to use as a tool of enslavement.