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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ralph Wiggum on August 30, 2011, 02:45:29 PM
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Which of course we can't answer directly at the DUmp...
guitar man (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-30-11 03:27 PM
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Just one question for proponents of right wing economic philosophy (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1845636)
I have only one question for the "trickle down" or "supply side" or whatever the name de jour is for disaster capitalism....
In a nation of 300 million, just how *******ed miserable do 99 out of every 100 people have to be before that pissing, moaning priveged 1% is finally happy? How.*******ed.Miserable? (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/images/grr.gif) (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/images/anim_pissed.gif)
You DUmmies just don't get it. We don't want anyone to be miserable. OK, maybe liberals. But the economy is NOT A ZERO SUM GAME. Just because some people are rich doesn't mean that makes other people poorer.
Next?
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Well DUmmy just how miserable do you want those who have to pay taxes to be, before it's enough for you goons who leech off the productive people to be happy?
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:lol: :lol:Both of you spot on. :cheersmate: ^5's
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If 99% of Americans think the way you do then Obama should win election by a large margin DUmmie. :rotf:
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-30-11 03:27 PM
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Just one question for proponents of right wing economic philosophy
I have only one question for the "trickle down" or "supply side" or whatever the name de jour is for disaster capitalism....
In a nation of 300 million, just how *******ed miserable do 99 out of every 100 people have to be before that pissing, moaning priveged 1% is finally happy? How.*******ed.Miserable?
Nobody wants you to be miserable. Your lack of effort in school and work is the reason for your failing, ergo, any misery you feel is your.own.damned.fault.
Answer me this, guitarman:
For all of you communist, amoral, godless bastards, just how much wealth should be spread from the middle class to the lowest class? I ask this, because you bitch and whine about the top 1%, but all of your failed economic policies end up making the rich richer and #%@$ing the middle class right up the keester. In fact, most of the so called "Progressive" legislation is aimed squarely at the middle class. This is due in no small part to a complete lack of understanding about how corporations or businesses operate. So, how many middle class people do you have to turn into lower class people before you dipshits are happy?
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Nobody wants you to be miserable. Your lack of effort in school and work is the reason for your failing, ergo, any misery you feel is your.own.damned.fault.
Answer me this, guitarman:
For all of you communist, amoral, godless bastards, just how much wealth should be spread from the middle class to the lowest class? I ask this, because you bitch and whine about the top 1%, but all of your failed economic policies end up making the rich richer and #%@$ing the middle class right up the keester. In fact, most of the so called "Progressive" legislation is aimed squarely at the middle class. This is due in no small part to a complete lack of understanding about how corporations or businesses operate. So, how many middle class people do you have to turn into lower class people before you dipshits are happy?
HERE HERE!!!! K&R.
:-)
I know it's supposed to be hear hear, but the DUmmies say here here all the time
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Well, what's the misery index now compared to when the boy king first took office? Besides, I don't want everyone in America to be miserable, just you guys.
Cindie
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I expect DUmmy guitar man to be far more miserable than he is now. I, for one, won't be happy until he's suicidal.
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I have a few questions for all lurking left-leaning, mouth-breathing, dope-smoking, anus-diddling DUmbasses.
How is Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Donald Trump, George Soros, et.al., having umteen billions of dollars, making my life miserable?
How will making them poorer make me richer?
How does taking the property of someone who EARNED it, and giving it to someone that HASN'T EARNED, nor will ever EARN it, enrich society as a whole?
Finally, just how much is "enough"?
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Who said 99-percent were miserable?
I'm pretty damned sure that, were I left to my own devises I'd be happy and I doubt I'm not alone.
How hard is it to leave me a lone rather than insist everything in my life and everything I come in contact with is controlled by a state-owned monopoly run by a self-selecting political class?
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I'm miserable? Well **** me runnin, I never knew.
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The rich get richer while the poor get....richer, too???? (http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/craigsteiner/2011/08/26/the_truth_about_taxes,_the_rich,_and_the_poor)
Referring to the chart on page 5 of the same link, we see that the top of the lowest fifth bracket went from $13,471 in 1967 to $16,116 in 1998, a growth of 19.6% in real terms. During the same time, the top fifth of wage earners went from a minimum of $53,170 in 1967 to $75,000 in 1998, a growth of 41.1%. Similar increases can be observed in each of the income brackets.
Everyone got richer, but the rich got richer faster.
This is hardly surprising. Someone that is rich is going to have more extra money that they can invest which, in turn, creates more money. Money generates money and no-one disputes that being rich is, by definition, a financial advantage in a capitalistic society. Short of draconian wealth redistribution, this will always be the case. However, the macro-economic data from 1967 to 1998 does not support the assertion that the rich got richer and the poor got poorer. The data supports the position that everyone got richer. While there may be year to year variations in a negative direction, the long-term trend is that all Americans are getting richer.
So whine away, DUmpMonkeys. If you get your way, the rich will get poorer, but YOU will get poorer faster. :mental:
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the top fifth of wage earners went from a minimum of $53,170 in 1967 to $75,000 in 1998, a growth of 41.1%
Everyone got richer, but the rich got richer faster.
In DUmmyland, someone making $75K in 1998, $6250 per month, is considered rich!!
And, wow, if they were making $75K in 1998, can you imagine how much they're making now, after the Great Bush Prosperity?
Moonbats have no concept of money or wealth.
They really are a permanent underclass that normal people cannot comprehend.
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Nobody wants you to be miserable. Your lack of effort in school and work is the reason for your failing, ergo, any misery you feel is your.own.damned.fault.
Answer me this, guitarman:
For all of you communist, amoral, godless bastards, just how much wealth should be spread from the middle class to the lowest class? I ask this, because you bitch and whine about the top 1%, but all of your failed economic policies end up making the rich richer and #%@$ing the middle class right up the keester. In fact, most of the so called "Progressive" legislation is aimed squarely at the middle class. This is due in no small part to a complete lack of understanding about how corporations or businesses operate. So, how many middle class people do you have to turn into lower class people before you dipshits are happy?
One of 0bama's professors in school (who happens to be a Marxist, who knew?) stated that 0bama wanted to be part of a socialist revolution, but was told that the large middle class in this country would prevent it. Maybe shrinking the middle class is planned... I'm just sayin'...
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Just one question for proponents of right wing economic philosophy
Why am such a ***** that I can't ask my retarded questions to you directly, and instead choose to post only where I can just expect approval from a bunch of cock-sucking lunatics?
FIFY
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Misery is happiness to a DUmmie. They hate anyone who actually tries to help them and love the people who have bulldozed the economy. In short, they are progressives.
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Last I checked, the economy did VERY well under Bush and a Republican Congress and didn't tank until October of '07. Hmm, wonder who took control of Congress in January of that year for the sole reason of opposition to the wars WHICH WE'RE STILL F'N IN?
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I expect DUmmy guitar man to be far more miserable than he is now. I, for one, won't be happy until he's suicidal.
I second the sentiments. Enthusiastically.
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I look at this way...life is what you make of it.....
Why should we distribute the wealth, when people who don't work are not going to appreciate it?....
Heck I don't make alot, but I have a job that I work hard at. I always offer to bring a little something when I am invited to family festivities.
I have some medical setbacks, but I forge on......that's all we can do....
But I am damned if I will sit around on my ass and wait for a government handout!!!
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I have some medical setbacks, but I forge on......that's all we can do....
But I am damned if I will sit around on my ass and wait for a government handout!!!
You may not be born American, but you're all American now and you better damn well demand what you paid into the system for. These moonbats created the shit that pillaged your paycheck; demand a return on your investment. I have absolutely ZERO problem with people demanding what they paid into a ponzi scheme when it was forced upon them by their government.
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You may not be born American, but you're all American now.
This brought tears to my eyes....
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Finally, just how much is "enough"?
When their, meaning exclusivly the DUmmie in question here as they are a rather greedy lot, "needs" are met. Their needs being as follows:
An estate in the country, with a minimum of four bedrooms and three baths on a two acre plot of land
Landscaping and lawn maintenance for their plot of land.
A car less than two years old with all maintenance, gas, and insurance paid for.
An olympic size swimming pool
Swimming coach and 24/7 lifeguard for the pool (union of course)
A private chef, to make sure they drink their salads, fresh fish, and drink their red wine (union and union made of course)
An excercise room with all top of the line world class equipment
A personal excercise coach (union of course)
A personal therapist (union of course)
A personal yoga instructor (union of course)
A spa and a fully liscensed masseuse (union of course)
A maid so they don't have to clean their own mess (union of course)
A butler to bring them anything they want (union of course)
A top of the line new computer, with full high speed internet access
A cell phone, latest model only please
A fully paid one month vacation anywhere in the world they want to go, yearly
Access to whatever healthcare they want, now and for free
Access to take whatever mind/mood altering drug they want
...there's a lot more I'm missing. This is just an incomplete start
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If I may answer that question with a question.
What will you proponents of left wing economic theory do when you run out of other people's money ?
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When their, meaning exclusivly the DUmmie in question here as they are a rather greedy lot, "needs" are met. Their needs being as follows:
An estate in the country, with a minimum of four bedrooms and three baths on a two acre plot of land
Landscaping and lawn maintenance for their plot of land.
A car less than two years old with all maintenance, gas, and insurance paid for.
An olympic size swimming pool
Swimming coach and 24/7 lifeguard for the pool (union of course)
A private chef, to make sure they drink their salads, fresh fish, and drink their red wine (union and union made of course)
An excercise room with all top of the line world class equipment
A personal excercise coach (union of course)
A personal therapist (union of course)
A personal yoga instructor (union of course)
A spa and a fully liscensed masseuse (union of course)
A maid so they don't have to clean their own mess (union of course)
A butler to bring them anything they want (union of course)
A top of the line new computer, with full high speed internet access
A cell phone, latest model only please
A fully paid one month vacation anywhere in the world they want to go, yearly
Access to whatever healthcare they want, now and for free
Access to take whatever mind/mood altering drug they want
...there's a lot more I'm missing. This is just an incomplete start
:lol:
That's a good start, but I don't think it is "enough" to the DUmmies.
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Moonbats have no concept of money or wealth.
They really are a permanent underclass that normal people cannot comprehend.
Nor stand.
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Doesn't Keynesian economics depend on trickle-down and mulitiplier effects as well, my stupid and unsophisticated little DUmmie, with their main difference from free market economics just being who is injecting the money into the system - fake Government-supported markets, or real supply and demand?
And it is also painfully apparent that you do not understand the difference between political philosophies and economic philosophies.
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Doesn't Keynesian economics depend on trickle-down and mulitiplier effects as well, my stupid and unsophisticated little DUmmie, with their main difference from free market economics just being who is injecting the money into the system - fake Government-supported markets, or real supply and demand?
And it is also painfully apparent that you do not understand the difference between political philosophies and economic philosophies.
I've only read bits and pieces of Keynes. Our graduate economics class did not touch Keynes with a 10 foot pole, seeing as how we had a decent conservative professor. He said there was enough to cover without studying failed theories, lol.
That said, even Keynes wasn't actively hostile toward businesses. He merely wanted to smooth out business cycles. Democrats today claiming to carry Keynes' banner are actively hostile toward businesses, all the time. They don't want business cycles because there shouldn't be businesses. Only government.
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I second the sentiments. Enthusiastically.
I'll endorse said sentiments as well, with the caveat that I want the DUmb**** to succeed.
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Life is simple if you follow a few rules. Get a decent education for free while you can. Do your homework and don't drop out. After that either pick a skill people will want to pay for either in a trade school or a degree. Don't spend your life in the bottle or on drugs or partying every night in your 20s. Try to save up a bit and don't spend money on every new toy that comes out. Pay your bills on time. TRY NOT TO MARRY A ASSH***. If you are still working as a cashier or a waitress in your 40s that is NOT the fault of some rich guy some where.