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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Gina on August 29, 2011, 02:31:05 PM
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Read this story http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44316064/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
One of the comments was that "blood isn't on the hands of the shooter, it's on the hands of everyone that doesn't think pot should be legalized".
So the debate is:
Do you feel pot should be just as legal as cigarettes and why?
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Yes with the exception that buyers should be 21 years of age vs. 18 for cigarettes.
My reason? See encyclopedia entry: "Prohibition." See also bumper sticker: "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns." See also, effects of alcoholism vs effects of marijuana use.
I'm pretty sure that had marijuana been legalized long ago as it should have been, that city councilman would not be dead today.
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I wish it was....It would be nice to be able to take a hit, if I was stressed out and not have to deal with the legality of getting caught. However, I am not in the best financial situation to buy it, so it is a moot point for me....
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I have no problem with it being legalized with the caveat that they have a test for it before legalization.
I mean a test where they can tell when you actually smoked. If someone smoked today after they got off work then got pulled over tomorrow afternoon on their way home from work it would still show up even though they are probably not high at the time.
When they can test for it like alcohol I say let those who want to toke, toke.
It's not for me. I don't smoke now and wouldn't even if it were legal.
KC
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I wish it was....It would be nice to be able to take a hit, if I was stressed out and not have to deal with the legality of getting caught. However, I am not in the best financial situation to buy it, so it is a moot point for me....
If it's legal doesn't mean employers will stop testing for it. I don't exepct that to change.
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"blood isn't on the hands of the shooter, it's on the hands of everyone that doesn't think pot should be legalized".
Side note, regardless of my opinion on the legalization subject, I believe the blood is on the hands of the shooter. Period!
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To those who say there would be less crime if pot were legal, I ask, wouldn't there be less crime if theft was legal?
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If it's legal doesn't mean employers will stop testing for it. I don't exepct that to change.
Bingo. You can't expect employers who are paying people to be....uh.....wow, man........The lights?.....You know?
What were we talkin' about? Pass me those Doritos, man. Kinda hungry.....
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Legal = shitty pot. :rofl:
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To those who say there would be less crime if pot were legal, I ask, wouldn't there be less crime if theft was legal?
Well, you are comparing apples to oranges on that one....
Stealing is wrong, because you are taking something that doesn't belong to you. Smoking mj, is like having an alcoholic beverage when you get home, to relax after a stressful day. However, if you drive under the influence, or it affects your job in a negative way, then the consequences should be the same if alcohol was involved.
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No way I would back legalization. I have way too many friends who are permanent burn outs due to their constant pot smoking. I know how the prohibitionists felt about alcohol too. It sucks to lose a friend or family member to the bottle. I know it is nanny statism to want things banned but I would rather have that than have smoking weed become the norm.
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To those who say there would be less crime if pot were legal, I ask, wouldn't there be less crime if theft was legal?
little difference, toking up doesn't violate anyone else's rights.
No way I would back legalization. I have way too many friends who are permanent burn outs due to their constant pot smoking. I know how the prohibitionists felt about alcohol too. It sucks to lose a friend or family member to the bottle. I know it is nanny statism to want things banned but I would rather have that than have smoking weed become the norm.
i prefer anything to be the norm, except nanny statism. your friends that are burnouts, if they instead chose to play russian roulette for the adrenaline rush... would you outlaw guns to save them?
can we take this thread's question to the next level and mention so called "stronger drugs" and whether they should be legalized? or just keep this thread on the marijane level?
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No way I would back legalization. I have way too many friends who are permanent burn outs due to their constant pot smoking. I know how the prohibitionists felt about alcohol too. It sucks to lose a friend or family member to the bottle. I know it is nanny statism to want things banned but I would rather have that than have smoking weed become the norm.
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I have no problem with it being legalized with the caveat that they have a test for it before legalization.
I mean a test where they can tell when you actually smoked. If someone smoked today after they got off work then got pulled over tomorrow afternoon on their way home from work it would still show up even though they are probably not high at the time.
When they can test for it like alcohol I say let those who want to toke, toke.
It's not for me. I don't smoke now and wouldn't even if it were legal.
KC
Yeah, I'm with you on that. Texters and the cell-phone-addicted are shitty enough drivers already, we need a bunch of potheads on the road like we need more moonbats voting.
It seems to be an even faster ticket to Loserville than video game addiction, but everyone can go to Hell in their own way. The idea that legalizing it is going to do anything to cripple organized crime is totally retarded wishful thinking, of course. I suppose taxing it might generate some revenue, but as easy as it would be to grow it untaxed and as hard and expensive as it would be to police whether the end product was tax-paid or not, I think that particular plus has been overestimated by at least two orders of magnitude.
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Legal no, but I would be OK with a fine instead of court time for smaller amounts. Caught with "x" amount = mandatory fine of "x" dollars. Multiple offenses bring escalating fines.
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I say regulate, legalize and tax the crap. I dont 'indulge' (I did when I was a teen, but not anymore) but it seems to make sense to me.
One nice side benefit would be not having a gazzillion pot smokers helping to over crowd the jails and not having them thrown into the clinker with much, much worse 'types'. Not to mention the incredible amount of man hours and tax dollars poured down the drain enforcing this nonsense.
Me thinks booze and cigarettes cause far more damage. But I wouldnt outlaw them either. At least not on a federal level. Let the states decide. I say regulate and tax.
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Legalised outright no.
De-Criminalised for amounts within reasonable grounds of personal use yes.
On the spot fine and confiscation for possession. Loss of driving privileges for 12 months if found intoxicated behind the wheel.
Far too many law enforcement resources go to waste dealing with people who often aren't a problem to society. I'd rather those resources went to dealing with violent, sexual and property related crimes.
I understand the argument that there are people susceptible to allowing the drug to rule their life - but those are often people who will find a way to **** things up regardless of the availability of weed, and as is demonstrated weed being illegal hasn't stopped them in the first place.
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I have no problem with it being legalized with the caveat that they have a test for it before legalization.
I mean a test where they can tell when you actually smoked. If someone smoked today after they got off work then got pulled over tomorrow afternoon on their way home from work it would still show up even though they are probably not high at the time.
When they can test for it like alcohol I say let those who want to toke, toke.
It's not for me. I don't smoke now and wouldn't even if it were legal.
KC
I agree.
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Yeah, I'm with you on that. Texters and the cell-phone-addicted are shitty enough drivers already, we need a bunch of potheads on the road like we need more moonbats voting.
It seems to be an even faster ticket to Loserville than video game addiction, but everyone can go to Hell in their own way. The idea that legalizing it is going to do anything to cripple organized crime is totally retarded wishful thinking, of course. I suppose taxing it might generate some revenue, but as easy as it would be to grow it untaxed and as hard and expensive as it would be to police whether the end product was tax-paid or not, I think that particular plus has been overestimated by at least two orders of magnitude.
Indeed. The amount of manpower needed to "regulate and tax" would far outweigh any financial benefit from the tax itself.
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Indeed. The amount of manpower needed to "regulate and tax" would far outweigh any financial benefit from the tax itself.
NUTS, people find a way to get high all over the world. Ever see a bunch of kids playing and the spin about until they fall down ? Ever have a child that became hyper active from eating sugar, check out a cat on catnip, they Love the stuff.
The world has millions of growing plants that humans and animals seek out. Fact of life, some things make us feel good, relaxed or excite us.
Man and animals seek out these things for a reason.
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I honestly don't think the proponents of legalization have thought this through completely. Their idea of what the reality of legalization would be is likely very different from what it would actually be like.
I don't believe they realize just how good they have it now and just how radically different things will become with government regulation.
They bitch about the prices now, wait until they see what taxation will take that to.
They enjoy the convenient availability of scoring a bag of weed off their friendly neighborhood pot dealer, their friend next door, down the street, etc. That will no longer be the case. Joe Dealer will be out of the market without a license and face heavy penalties for bootlegging if caught.
They envision the whole pot culture as it is staying as it is, without the bust factor of course. It won't be like growing tomatoes in the back yard with anyone and everyone being able to do as they please. The government will take a dim view of that sort of thing, the same way as an illicit moonshine still will put you in the big house for hard time.
No, it would not be a free for all Utokia. You will be able to purchase it but that will be from Philip Morris with a big fat tax stamp on it. Doubt this? Go look up big tobacco/marijuana and you will find this has all been laid in place for years in anticipation of legalization.
Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
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freeborn, the things you are warning about do not affect me. i have no desire to smoke pot. yet i want it legalized.
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I honestly don't think the proponents of legalization have thought this through completely. Their idea of what the reality of legalization would be is likely very different from what it would actually be like.
I don't believe they realize just how good they have it now and just how radically different things will become with government regulation.
They bitch about the prices now, wait until they see what taxation will take that to.
They enjoy the convenient availability of scoring a bag of weed off their friendly neighborhood pot dealer, their friend next door, down the street, etc. That will no longer be the case. Joe Dealer will be out of the market without a license and face heavy penalties for bootlegging if caught.
They envision the whole pot culture as it is staying as it is, without the bust factor of course. It won't be like growing tomatoes in the back yard with anyone and everyone being able to do as they please. The government will take a dim view of that sort of thing, the same way as an illicit moonshine still will put you in the big house for hard time.
No, it would not be a free for all Utokia. You will be able to purchase it but that will be from Philip Morris with a big fat tax stamp on it. Doubt this? Go look up big tobacco/marijuana and you will find this has all been laid in place for years in anticipation of legalization.
Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
That is exactly what I was trying to say. Cept better. :-)
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I'm not in favor of pot being legalized.
I think it does cause significant brain damage and damages other systems, too. I think drinking alcohol is stupid, also, though.
I grew up in Michigan and remember when up to 1 oz (or some other small amount) was legal for personal use in some places. My gosh, I'd be out in public, just taking care of my own business and have to deal with idiot stoners. Just like a drunken boor, they are so flippin' self centered. Ugh.
Have also worked in schools and had children on caseload who's only real problem was that mom and/or dad were stoners and/or drunks and never paid the child any, any attention. The district SpEd director would just shrug and mumble, "Job security for us."
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Just got back from trolling DU. Every time I go there I see what pot can do to a person.
NO. No to legalization.
Prison for potheads. life terms for dealers/growers. DU is proof that this is not a victimless crime.
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We are told we can't just hack up the rain forest because there may be as yet undiscovered plants with medicinal qualities, possible the cure for cancer.
We already know pot has medicinal qualities and it can be home grown. It can be abused but so can tightly controlled prescription drugs.
I don't think the world will be any less violent if pot is legal or illegal so that is not the argument. It could marginally shrink the size and power of the federal government, which would be a point in favor.
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I disagree. the medicinal parts can be distilled down to a pill. you can get whats good and not get high.
the argument really boils down to recreational use...that is all the real proponents care about. they talk about medicine, but when you look at Denmark or California...its recreational.
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Just got back from trolling DU. Every time I go there I see what pot can do to a person.
NO. No to legalization.
Prison for potheads. life terms for dealers/growers. DU is proof that this is not a victimless crime.
I tend to think drugs for DUmmies and liberals should be compulsory. If they are stoned off their ass they are less likely to make it to the voting booth and if they do make it, they are less likely to vote for the liberal guy unless ballots start coming color coded with Cheetos color for the lib.
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I disagree. the medicinal parts can be distilled down to a pill. you can get whats good and not get high.
the argument really boils down to recreational use...that is all the real proponents care about. they talk about medicine, but when you look at Denmark or California...its recreational.
The whole trouble with distilling it down to a pill is it is being distilled down to a pill.
But a broader point is once it is legal, the DUmmies will be the first demanding regulation and even making it illegal again because it would become a choice, a volition of individual freedom. It would be entertaining to watch.
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The documented medicinal qualities are pretty lame, actually. Glaucoma? That's about it. As a pain reliever, it only has about 6,000 competitors, none of which have to be smoked for ingestion. It's 'medicinal effects' are touted not because it actually has any that are particularly remarkable, but because people want to be able to get it to toke up.
There will come a day, and probably in litigation-happy Californistan, when the wink-wink 'Pain relief' prescriptions backfire on the docs writing them now, after the long-term negative effects begin to take hold.
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If someone wants to play Russian roulette then I wouldn't stop them or take their gun (unless it was my kid). People that stupid should go ahead and take themselves out of the gene pool.
If we legalize pot because it has medicinal purposes then why not all other drugs? Ecstasy has medicinal purposes as does cocaine, herion, LSD, even meth. People claim that having sex with little kids makes them feel better, should we legalize and tax that too? It is a bullshit argument.
I enjoy the thought of tons of drug users being locked up. I would be happier if they all were. Especially methheads, crackheads, smackheads, and cokeheads. I say if they hate life so much that they have to stay constantly high, just give them a gun and lock them in a room until the go ahead and kill themselves the fast way instead of doing it slowly through drugs.
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If someone wants to play Russian roulette then I wouldn't stop them or take their gun (unless it was my kid). People that stupid should go ahead and take themselves out of the gene pool.
If we legalize pot because it has medicinal purposes then why not all other drugs? Ecstasy has medicinal purposes as does cocaine, herion, LSD, even meth. People claim that having sex with little kids makes them feel better, should we legalize and tax that too? It is a bullshit argument.
I enjoy the thought of tons of drug users being locked up. I would be happier if they all were. Especially methheads, crackheads, smackheads, and cokeheads. I say if they hate life so much that they have to stay constantly high, just give them a gun and lock them in a room until the go ahead and kill themselves the fast way instead of doing it slowly through drugs.
I love you so much :-*
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No way I would back legalization. I have way too many friends who are permanent burn outs due to their constant pot smoking. I know how the prohibitionists felt about alcohol too. It sucks to lose a friend or family member to the bottle. I know it is nanny statism to want things banned but I would rather have that than have smoking weed become the norm.
This. There's already enough idiots drunk driving. Double the number by legalizing pot and you'll need to start driving an Abrams just to survive being on the highways.
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This. There's already enough idiots drunk driving. Double the number by legalizing pot and you'll need to start driving an Abrams just to survive being on the highways.
I could get into that last bit...
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If someone wants to play Russian roulette then I wouldn't stop them or take their gun (unless it was my kid). People that stupid should go ahead and take themselves out of the gene pool.
If we legalize pot because it has medicinal purposes then why not all other drugs? Ecstasy has medicinal purposes as does cocaine, herion, LSD, even meth. People claim that having sex with little kids makes them feel better, should we legalize and tax that too? It is a bullshit argument.
I enjoy the thought of tons of drug users being locked up. I would be happier if they all were. Especially methheads, crackheads, smackheads, and cokeheads. I say if they hate life so much that they have to stay constantly high, just give them a gun and lock them in a room until the go ahead and kill themselves the fast way instead of doing it slowly through drugs.
Most of your post is personal opinion, all of it nonsense. (Except for the roulette stoopid, definitely a Darwin move.)
You enjoy the thought of tons of drug users in jail - do you enjoy supporting them as well? If you took marijuana "crimes" out of the penal system, you could use so much more resources toward cleaning up the dangerous drugs & criminals.
I don't believe hard narcotics such as opiates, meth etc should be legal anymore than having sex with little kids should be.
Wait,... what? Did you just compare smoking pot to having sex with little kids? Hmmm, nevermind, I think you've made my point for me.
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Most of your post is personal opinion, all of it nonsense. (Except for the roulette stoopid, definitely a Darwin move.)
You enjoy the thought of tons of drug users in jail - do you enjoy supporting them as well? If you took marijuana "crimes" out of the penal system, you could use so much more resources toward cleaning up the dangerous drugs & criminals.
I don't believe hard narcotics such as opiates, meth etc should be legal anymore than having sex with little kids should be.
Wait,... what? Did you just compare smoking pot to having sex with little kids? Hmmm, nevermind, I think you've made my point for me.
If you weren't high maybe you would understand better. And don't start out here by being a total freaking bitch. It won't get you far and make many friends.
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If you weren't high maybe you would understand better. And don't start out here by being a total freaking bitch. It won't get you far and make many friends.
Well shoot. I thought this was a debate thread. My apologies for not kissing butt or pulling my punches.
I like this forum and while I do agree with many of the sentiments of members, if there's a nice hot topic for debate I'm not going to just bobble my head and grin.
Edit: removed a swear word and a taunt because I promised seahorse I'd play nice outside of Fight Club.
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This. There's already enough idiots drunk driving. Double the number by legalizing pot and you'll need to start driving an Abrams just to survive being on the highways.
you need to change your avatar, I was reading this think it was vesta :lmao: I was wondering why it was so short :lol:
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I enjoy the thought of tons of drug users being locked up. I would be happier if they all were. Especially methheads, crackheads, smackheads, and cokeheads. I say if they hate life so much that they have to stay constantly high, just give them a gun and lock them in a room until the go ahead and kill themselves the fast way instead of doing it slowly through drugs.
It'd be nice if drug addiction was as simple as "they hate life" so the have to stay high. Claiming that is pure ignorance.
You're trying to take a very complex problem and simplify it. While you'll always find someone who fits what you describe, insinuating the majority use drugs for that reason is insane.
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This. There's already enough idiots drunk driving. Double the number by legalizing pot and you'll need to start driving an Abrams just to survive being on the highways.
Why would the number of those driving under the influence of pot go up when legalized? I don't buy that argument. It's simply a variation of what the gun grabbers say when concealed carry is talked about in a state;
"If we legalize conceal carry there will be shootings in the streets!!"
It hasn't happened anymore than it happened before and actually it went down in most cases.
KC
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I have no problem with the legalization of pot. It's the #1 drug cartels south of the Border are using to fund their operations and I don't think it's that bad of a drug. Sure, people abuse it, but people also abuse alcohol. I just see no reason why we're spending billions trying to prosecute cases about pot. Crack and all the other "manufactured" stuff? No, I don't think that shit should be legal.
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Well shoot. I thought this was a debate thread. My apologies for not kissing butt or pulling my punches.
I like this forum and while I do agree with many of the sentiments of members, if there's a nice hot topic for debate I'm not going to just bobble my head and grin.
Edit: removed a swear word and a taunt because I promised seahorse I'd play nice outside of Fight Club.
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I think you went from stating your own opinion and supporting it, which is totally acceptable here, into mocking hers, which is not the same thing and rather naturally pissed her off.
And just FWIW, Mama and I have quite opposing views on a lot of things, so I'm not speaking as her buddy, just as an observer.
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Yeah disagree with me all you want. I don't have a problem with that. Being a snotty bitch when you do it, I do have a problem with. Most people do. If you can't respond like an adult, and you feel that Vesta is your personal hero, then go ahead and put me on ignore so you aren't tempted to start it. I disagree with a ton of things around here and tons of things people say here but either I let it go, or I attept to explain my position rationally. I don't try to sway them because at this point in life most people are going to stick to their opinions. It isn't worth losing friends over. Save the attitude for posting on DU or go to www.pregnancy.org. They LOVE attitudes there!
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Fine, I don't want to play with you anyway, you probably hog all the good Barbie clothes.
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...and you feel that Vesta is your personal hero...
:lmao:
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Fine, I don't want to play with you anyway, you probably hog all the good Barbie clothes.
According to Gina, yeah, she does.
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The way I see it, you can't smoke cigarettes in most public places, in some communities, and some states are even talking about banning it in your own car. So if we legalized pot, you can have it, you just can't smoke it anywhere. :-)
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Most of your post is personal opinion, all of it nonsense. (Except for the roulette stoopid, definitely a Darwin move.)
You enjoy the thought of tons of drug users in jail - do you enjoy supporting them as well? If you took marijuana "crimes" out of the penal system, you could use so much more resources toward cleaning up the dangerous drugs & criminals.
I don't believe hard narcotics such as opiates, meth etc should be legal anymore than having sex with little kids should be.
Wait,... what? Did you just compare smoking pot to having sex with little kids? Hmmm, nevermind, I think you've made my point for me.
I don't enjoy supporting murderers, theives, or rapists, either. Just make all that legal, too? YOUR logic.
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I don't enjoy supporting murderers, theives, or rapists, either. Just make all that legal, too? YOUR logic.
Wrong, that's faulty logic and none of mine. I'm talking about pot - not rape, murder, theft or pedophilia. Wow, seriously?
My logic is that marijuana is a drug that studies show to be less harmful than cigarettes or alcohol. So, make it legal, regulated, and taxed as alcohol & tobacco are, and you will gain not only revenue but empty jail cells. You will then have the money to pay policemen and judges to put rapists, murderers, thieves and pedophiles in said empty cells.
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I don't enjoy supporting murderers, thieves, or rapists, either. Just make all that legal, too? YOUR logic.
no, my logic is "anything that is victimless, should not be a crime." everything you mention clearly has a victim.
there still can be regulation. driving under the influence can lead to an innocent death, should no be allowed. employers can still prohibit drug use on the job just like alcohol.
now if are assuming another's logic, consider this.
i believe most conservatives feel the war on poverty is a failure. and continuing does more harm than good. which leads to a waste of resources that could never be justified.
that same logic apply's to the war on drugs. so why not the same opinion on it?
once again, i am not a drug user. i do not want it legalized for the tax revenue. i do not think it is the holy grail of medicinal value. When someone wants to toke up, and it does not affect anyone else, why can anyone who believes in "Liberty and justice for all" want it illegalized???
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Legalize it. Put all the taxes on it that are on alcohol and tobacco. Figure out a way to test if one is driving under the influence.
No I don't smoke it, never have. But not only do I know people who use it recreationally, but some who have used it during chemo treatments as it is an appetite stimulant and also seems to help with the horrendous nausea that comes with chemo.
Smoking pot it and of itself, does not lead to using the harder drugs. What leads a pot smoker to the "hard stuff" is the person who is selling the pot. The dealer is going to make much more money getting the pot smoker onto the harder stuff than they are from marijuana. Like Rebel said, it's those animals in the drug cartels in Mexico that are shipping a lot of the marijuana into the US. Grant people licenses to grow it, just like the government does for tobacco farmers. Those leases are hard to get, used to be down here in the south, selling land with a tobacco lease was way more valuable than one without. Make marijuana leases the same.
There are thousands upon thousands of individuals incarcerated for marijuana - either for using or dealing a couple of ounces. Billions of tax dollars go for their court costs, prison costs, attorney fees. All monies that could be used much more effectively somewhere else. Heck, there are people in prison for marijuana crimes for longer prison terms than some murderers have!! What do you think happens to a 18-19 yo kid who got busted for an ounce or more of pot, spending years in an violent environment surrounded by murderers and rapists? Does anyone really think that individual is going to come out of prison any where remotely near "normal"? Chances are much higher that individual will be back in prison within a year or two than becoming a productive member of society.
Does marijuana kill brain cells? Maybe. But so does alcohol and tobacco. Is excessive use bad? Maybe. Excessive alcohol use is bad. So is excessive use of tobacco for some people. For that matter, Rx drugs used to excess can be just as bad - physically and certainly financially. Look at all the people that are hooked on oxycontin. How many of them started out with a 10 day 'script for pain following surgery, and are now seriously addicted to it? How many of you who are so opposed to the legalization of marijuana, have taken oxy, or percoset, or Tylenol 3 for pain - that a physician prescribed for you, because it IS legal - or even have demerol Rx's for migraine headaches? While YOU might not be one who abuses the use of pain pills, doesn't mean that Jimmy Joe Bob down the street hasn't become addicted any one or more of them after he had that little bit of surgery on his knee that he twisted playing tag football with his kids in his backyard.
Those Rx drugs that are oh so legal, are MORE physically addictive than marijuana is. Marijuana is an emotionally/psychologically addictive substance rather than a physically addictive substance. The body does not crave it, the mind wants it to make the person "feel better" emotionally rather than physically. It has a calming effect, making the smoker more "laid back and mellow" rather than argumentative and/or combative.
As far as being a more dangerous person/parent for using marijuana....that's crap. Go live with a violent alcoholic for 6 months. Then come back and tell me who is worse. I've been around recreational pot smokers for 40 years, since I was a freshman in college, and never had a one of them lay a hand on me. But I do know what's it's like to have a black eye from an alcoholic and be chased out of the house with him holding a butcher knife that he threatened to use on me.
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debk - :clap: H5
So glad you got out of that last bit. I survived my own Budweiser-sponsored "Hurricane Bob;" I'd rather walk by a happy pot smoker in a dark alley any day.
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...My logic is that marijuana is a drug that studies funded by advocates for legalized recreational pot, and therefore with a profit motive to report back the results they do show to be less harmful than cigarettes or alcohol...
FIFY, sweetie. :II:
I can point to at least as many different studies - funded by groups that would like to see cannabis eradicated from the face of the earth, of course - which point to the brain damaging effects of marijuana use, and the secondary crime rates associated with the drug. They still aren't going to convince you that you should abandon the Evil Devil's Weed for clean living any more than your studies will convince me that Marijuana is THE Wonder Drug that Works Wonders, and I should advocate for legalization so that I can take up a three pack a day habit of the stuff.
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so that I can take up a three pack a day habit of the stuff.
Good heavens if we legalize weed, you may end up smoking 3 packs a day! I never knew this was a risk! I may need to rethink my position! :wink:
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