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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on August 26, 2011, 08:44:09 PM
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Oh my.
cliffordu (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-26-11 08:33 PM
Original message
I'm sorry the President failed you.
Really, I am.
It isn't as bad as the time my stepdad set my hand on fire, but I feel your pain.
JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-26-11 08:37 PM
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1. Society has forgotten the art of managing expectations...
I knew going in that Obama wasn't the tree hugging uber liberal socialist hippie I am, and I never expected him to do everything I wanted him to do. I knew he was a pragmatic centrist, and that looked pretty effing good to me up against Grampy McWarmonger and The Whore of Babble-on.
It isn't as bad as the day last month I broke my leg either. As loud and nasty as some get, they aren't a writhing mass of pain, so... eh.
cliffordu (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-26-11 08:39 PM
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2. Sorry about your leg - how did you do it??
Mountain biking or full contact ballroom dancing??
JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-26-11 08:47 PM
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7. LOL!
I forgot my earrings. That is the butterfly wing beating that started this mess, or maybe it was the wind from a butterfly wing beating that caused me to be distracted and forget my earrings.
I ran up a dark flight of stairs that leads from my garage to the living room, with sunglasses on, missed a step and my leg landed across the top two steps. Spiral hairline fracture of the distal fibula... looks very graceful when you see that kind of fracture in an x-ray, but I can assure you gracefulness had nothing to do with it!
Xithras (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-26-11 08:52 PM
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14. I think it was the whole "Hope" and "Change" lie that got to us.
Sadly, some of us drank the Koolaid and believed it.
What we got was just another politician, selling his wares to those with the fattest wallets. Hope and Change are a great marketing gimmick, but apparently they aren't very "practical" when it comes time to run a country.
panader0 (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-26-11 08:41 PM
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5. I believe that if the Prez could do it all by himself that things would be far more progressive. Obama is a smart man, and smart prople are usually liberal, but he doesn't have the luxury of doing everything alone. There are many layers of pressure from all sides. Imagine cleaning out an old warehouse filled with waste and crap. Obama inherited a mess. In spite of that he has done many good things. Give the best candidate for Prez your vote and give him four more years to clean up a bit more.
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-26-11 08:47 PM
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8. He didn't fail me personally, he failed the poor, the jobless
the homeowners cheated out of their homes by the mortgage fraudsters. He failed the victims of torture trying to get some justice and the elderly and disabled whose pittances he put on the table as a bargaining chip for the most heartless, cruel, avaricious representatives of the far right to dispose of.
I don't need him particularly, but so many others did and he has failed them. I don't think they expected much from him, just to leave their SS alone eg, not to cut their Medicare. I'm not even sure I would call it 'failing'. Betrayal seems more accurate to me.
CelticThunder (417 posts) Fri Aug-26-11 08:50 PM
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11. Applauding!
ProSense (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-26-11 08:56 PM
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16. Nonsense
It's easy to sit back and take the facts about state of the country and lay the blame at the President's feet.
This is the America Obama inherited as President.
The President continues to try to solve a crisis he didn't create.
Oh. So Bela Pelosi and Scary Harry created it.
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-26-11 09:26 PM
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24. Did he or did he not, without, as Rep. Conyers pointed out so clearly even being asked by Republicans, put SS/Medicare and Medicaid on the bargaining table, something no Democrat should ever even think of. And is he is not willing to stop the COLA for Seniors and push this Chained CPI that will steal even more from their already tragically inadequate benefits well into their old age? Who forced him to do that?
Please stop, the people are not blind. I can't make this clear enough for you. I don't care about rich politicians other than that they do the job they were elected to do without a million excuses as to why they cannot. They and their families don't need my concern.
I care about the most vulnerable people in this society because someone has to, and I care about those innocents who have been unjustly abused, brutally tortured by the US Government and who are being denied access to the civil courts to get some justice, although they can never be adequately compensated, by this administration.
All of these politicians are set for several lifetimes. If they are ever in need, they will then be on my list of people to worry about. Right now they are not on that list. All I want from them is to stop catering to the already obscenely wealthy and start helping the American people who most need their help. And if they can't do that, if the job is so hard that all they have are excuses for not doing it, then they should step aside and let someone more competent try.
Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-26-11 09:01 PM
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21. Thank you.
Similarly, Bill Clinton signed the one of the meanest "reform" in the history of my lifetime. "Welfare reform."
warrior1 (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-26-11 08:53 PM
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15. He hasn't failed me
He's one of the better president of our times.
cliffordu (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-26-11 08:57 PM
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18. Yep -
Kinda my point, exactly.....
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-26-11 09:06 PM
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23. I think many many people are in severe pain and many have died. The pile of bodies could be seen from space, I'd bet.
Is that enough suffering to sate the corporatists who have it all?
Both parties. Most of Congress. Supreme Courtesans. Media. Bureaucracy. Inferior courts, etc...
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-26-11 08:52 PM
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14. I think it was the whole "Hope" and "Change" lie that got to us.
Sadly, some of us drank the Koolaid and believed it.
What we got was just another politician, selling his wares to those with the fattest wallets. Hope and Change are a great marketing gimmick, but apparently they aren't very "practical" when it comes time to run a country.
Someone at DU accidentally told the truth.
Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.
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Man THOSE people are racist.
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-26-11 08:33 PM
It isn't as bad as the time my stepdad set my hand on fire, but I feel your pain.
Somebody seriously needs five gallons of jet A.
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Somebody seriously needs five gallons of jet A.
Mixed with Ivory Snow.
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Someone at DU accidentally told the truth.
Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.
Ask not for whom the bell tollstrolls, it tollstrolls for thee
John Donne, like Xithras, was demonstrably a troll. O-)
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DUmmies: never missing a chance to play the victim. It is kind of funny, whether they are pro-Obama or down on Obama, they remain consistent in their victimology.
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panader0 (1000+ posts) Fri Aug-26-11 08:41 PM
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5. I believe that if the Prez could do it all by himself that things would be far more progressive. Obama is a smart man, and smart prople are usually liberal, but he doesn't have the luxury of doing everything alone.
I sense some regret that he was elected President rather than Reichskanzler.
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I think they really expected to get envelopes in the mail chock full of "obama money".
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I think they really expected to get envelopes in the mail chock full of "obama money".
Well, uh, actually, most of them do.