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Current Events => Archives => Politics => Election 2012 => Topic started by: RealConservativePatriot on August 24, 2011, 10:32:04 PM
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I would pick Romney because he has an impressive business record and turned around finances in MA while Perry sat around for the past decade and took credit for the Bush policies in Texas.
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I'd rather have Perry. He's made mistakes, we all have. He also owned up to those mistakes. His record on creating a pro-growth business climate speaks for itself.
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(just off the top of my head)...
Reasons why I don't want Romney:
Romneycare (Obamacare must be repealed, and we don't need someone there who implemented something similar in his state and wouldn't renounce it)
His beliefs on global warming (what is the correct temperature of the earth anyway?)
Reasons why I don't want Perry:
His beliefs on illegal immigration
Sure, neither of them are perfect, but given the choice here, I'd go for Perry.
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I'm not a religious guy and Perry is a little too heavily into religion for my taste in rational, analytical leadership; I do give him points for making headway with tort reform though. I have grave reservations about Romney supporting any of the GOP base principles beyond simply fiscal/monetary issues.
I think they are both bullshit artists of the first order, but between the two, I'd go with Perry.
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I went undecided for now. I need to learn more about Perry before I render a judgment between these two.
Either is better than Obama.
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I went undecided for now. I need to learn more about Perry before I render a judgment between these two.
Either is better than Obama.
:werd:
Except for one thing -- unless Perry is a complete RINO, taxaholic, turd-in-the-punchbowl, it would be very, very difficult to be worse than Romney.
I'd seen Romney operate 10 years ago. He's a complete plastic personality and first-class liar.
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:werd:
Except for one thing -- unless Perry is a complete RINO, taxaholic, turd-in-the-punchbowl, it would be very, very difficult to be worse than Romney.
I'd seen Romney operate 10 years ago. He's a complete plastic personality and first-class liar.
We need a "lightning struck me in the head" smiley. I just put Perry as well. DAT, Perry's religious leanings have never been on the radar until recently. I suspect there may be another motive involved. :whatever:
The things I know about Perry, aren't nearly as bad as what I have heard about Romney. But I really hope I don't have to vote for Perry either.
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We need a "lightning struck me in the head" smiley. I just put Perry as well. DAT, Perry's religious leanings have never been on the radar until recently. I suspect there may be another motive involved. :whatever:
The things I know about Perry, aren't nearly as bad as what I have heard about Romney. But I really hope I don't have to vote for Perry either.
I blame the MSM and the left for highlighting his religion. Much the same way that they ignored Reverend Wright and his connection to Obama.
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I blame the MSM and the left for highlighting his religion. Much the same way that they ignored Reverend Wright and his connection to Obama.
I agree. Granted, we knew he was a professed Christian, but this religious fanaticism is a bit over board. There is a whole SLEW of stuff that people could throw at him and stick. This really is a non-issue being blown up out of proportion.
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I agree. Granted, we knew he was a professed Christian, but this religious fanaticism is a bit over board. There is a whole SLEW of stuff that people could throw at him and stick. This really is a non-issue being blown up out of proportion.
I think half of it is the media overplaying it to undermine Perry, but the other half of it is him overplaying it to sell himself to evangelicals and other Social Conservatives. It's not a show-stopper for me, and I would be a lot more comfortable voting for him than Mitt.
Something about Mitt just doesn't sit well with me, he seems to have no commitment whatsoever to civil liberty issues I care about, and they're more important to me than the fiscal ones on which he wants to solely focus. Frickin' Red China has a great sole fiscal focus but dismal civil liberties. He isn't reassuring me on that score at all so far.
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At least this poll had the advantage of NOT having Dr. Nutz as an option. :popcorn:
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Perry by a long shot. Romney is a RINO thru and thru and the father of Obamacare. No contest when it comes to job creation. Romney oversaw the pathetic job creation (47 out of 50 states) in MA while Gov. That will not cut the mustard. Perry #1.
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Perry by a long shot. Romney is a RINO thru and thru and the father of Obamacare. No contest when it comes to job creation. Romney oversaw the pathetic job creation (47 out of 50 states) in MA while Gov. That will not cut the mustard. Perry #1.
Ditto!
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Perry.
Didn't like Romney last time, and don't like him any better this time. Something about him bugs me. There's something about him that makes him seem phoney to me.
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At least this poll had the advantage of NOT having Dr. Nutz as an option. :popcorn:
That's because to put him in, you'd also have to add, "TEH JOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSS!!!!"
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That's because to put him in, you'd also have to add, "TEH JOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSS!!!!"
You wouldn't have to add it, you could just bank on the fact that Dr. Nutz and his whole "army" :rotf: of Ronulan insurgents would be shouting it at the top of their lungs; usually in the same circumstances where Obama and the moonbats are shouting "Boooosh". (Directly in front of the word "Fault" in other words.)
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Perry.
Didn't like Romney last time, and don't like him any better this time. Something about him bugs me. There's something about him that makes him seem phoney to me.
For some reason he reminds me of Herb Tarlick from WKRP in Cincinnati, smarmy and untrustworthy.
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For some reason he reminds me of Herb Tarlick from WKRP in Cincinnati, smarmy and untrustworthy.
Excellent analysis!
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perry
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I would pick Romney because he has an impressive business record and turned around finances in MA while Perry sat around for the past decade and took credit for the Bush policies in Texas.
Mitt? Is that you?
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I'd have to go with Rick Perry. Romney will never get a vote from me because of Romney Care.
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No contest. Easy pick - Perry.
If for no other reason than the dem media and the talking heads (moderates they call conservative) on the talk shows would choose (for us) the Romulator from the two.
I would instinctively run in the opposite direction.
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Reasons why I don't want Perry:
His beliefs on illegal immigration
im not sure ive heard his immigration beliefs. has it been reported alot? i know almost nothing about perry because up here in MN/IA land, all the publicity (at least up until recently) went to bachmann.
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It was music to my ears yesterday when Steve Moore said on Kudlow's radio show that Rick Perry has been consulting heavily with Arthur Laffer, and is re-reading everything he can find on Reaganomics.
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This just solidified my stand on Perry. He vows his first act will be to sign an Executive Order dismantling ObamaCare: http://www.bluegrasspundit.com/2011/08/rick-perry-in-iowa-first-act-would-be.html
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This just solidified my stand on Perry. He vows his first act will be to sign an Executive Order dismantling ObamaCare: http://www.bluegrasspundit.com/2011/08/rick-perry-in-iowa-first-act-would-be.html
Bullshit, bluster and bravado.
An EO cannot in any way negate legislation. Period. Well, it's not supposed to, unless you want to rule by executive fiat -- as Barry is wont to do.
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Bullshit, bluster and bravado.
An EO cannot in any way negate legislation. Period. Well, it's not supposed to, unless you want to rule by executive fiat -- as Barry is wont to do.
True, but an EO can direct all departments of the Exec Branch to suspend any movement towards implementation of legislation
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Bullshit, bluster and bravado.
An EO cannot in any way negate legislation. Period. Well, it's not supposed to, unless you want to rule by executive fiat -- as Barry is wont to do.
I was assuming that Perry was talking about the fact that ObamaCare was passed via reconciliation, but, under constitutional challenges about the health insurance mandate, if thrown out, would sky rocket the price tag of ObamaCare, thus it does become a spending issue and the entire ObamaCare legislation falls apart.
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True, but an EO can direct all departments of the Exec Branch to suspend any movement towards implementation of legislation
Yep, at which point the courts get involved and we have that legal battle that takes place over month after month and brief after brief, with all the delaying tactics imagineable, until the courts order the executive branch to follow the law -- which, when ignored further, results in contempt of court charges.
Funny....where have I heard that before?
Bloomberg link (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-03/u-s-administration-in-contempt-over-gulf-drill-ban-judge-rules.html)
Yeah, I know, it ain't quite the same as noncompliance with the law, but the principle is still the same.
Here's a better example:
Breitbart (http://biggovernment.com/smotley/2011/04/13/obama-administration-ignores-federal-law-to-regulate-internet/)
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Romney is SO yesterday. He thinks he can win by getting cozy with the establishment RINO's then condescending to the base saying pretty words and pretending to believe the same things we do. He's an arrogant prick who's 0bama's white side, who was apparently able to drag himself out from under the bus.
Cindie
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Perry just to piss of the DUmmies. :-)
Seriously though I think Perry is closer to what I want than Romney.
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Perry just to piss of the DUmmies. :-)
Seriously though I think Perry is closer to what I want than Romney.
Perry is LIGHTYEARS closer to where I stand than Da MittWit ever was; or MittWit's idiot half brother, Huntsman Jr.