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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on August 24, 2011, 08:05:12 PM

Title: Obamacare will cause employees to lose insurance coverage.
Post by: thundley4 on August 24, 2011, 08:05:12 PM
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marmar   (1000+ posts)             Wed Aug-24-11 12:47 PM
Original message
Survey: Employers consider ending health coverage   
   


INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- Nearly one of every 10 midsized or big employers expects to stop offering health coverage to workers once federal insurance exchanges start in 2014, according to a new survey from a large benefits consultant.

Towers Watson also found in a survey completed last month that an additional 20 percent of the companies are unsure about what they will do.

Another big benefits consultant, Mercer, found in a June survey of large and smaller employers that 8 percent are either "likely" or "very likely" to end health benefits once the exchanges start.

Employer-sponsored health insurance has long been the backbone of the nation's health insurance system. But the studies suggest that some employers, especially retailers or those offering low wages, feel they will be better off paying fines and taxes than continuing to provide benefits that eat up a growing portion of their budget every year. ...........(more)
 
The complete piece is at: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Survey-Employers-consider...
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fascisthunter   (1000+ posts)             Wed Aug-24-11 12:50 PM
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1. why should Americans have to work harder, longer hours for less?
   
oh, right... because of greed and the promotion of corporate fascism.

Someone has to pay for you lazy-ass leeches that want the government freebies.

Some of the DUmmies seem happy and think this might push for the demand for free government care for all.  I think it will backfire.
Title: Re: Obamacare will cause employees to lose insurance coverage.
Post by: Ballygrl on August 24, 2011, 08:09:01 PM
Didn't we say this? we said Employers would find it cheaper to pay the fines then to have coverage for their Employees.
Title: Re: Obamacare will cause employees to lose insurance coverage.
Post by: BEG on August 24, 2011, 08:11:36 PM
DUmmies will see this as a positive.
Title: Re: Obamacare will cause employees to lose insurance coverage.
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 25, 2011, 04:03:34 AM
DUmmies will see this as a positive.

Just wait 'til the price of Cheetos goes through the roof.
Title: Re: Obamacare will cause employees to lose insurance coverage.
Post by: Karin on August 25, 2011, 07:58:24 AM
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riderinthestorm  (1000+ posts)      Thu Aug-25-11 12:38 AM
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30. I'm a small business owner. In 2014 why should I continue employer funded health ins?
 I mean it. In 2014, the govt will subsidize every single last one of my employees regardless of their ability to pay so why should I continue to pay that premium?

I really doubt the debunkers. If you are a business owner, dropping health care insurance costs will be a major, major boost to the bottom line. Everyone will do it - it's just common sense.

Furthermore, I will eliminate the paperwork and hassle.... You have no idea the drain THAT takes up.

I don't care how they worded this study. Companies are going to drop their employee health ins as soon as they can.

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ohheckyeah  (1000+ posts)      Thu Aug-25-11 02:28 AM
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32. Why should you continue?
 Because it's the right thing to do?

 

Is this a business or a charity ward?   DUmmies simply cannot grasp that businesses exist to make money, not necessarily to make life sweet for them. 
Title: Re: Obamacare will cause employees to lose insurance coverage.
Post by: Erasmus on August 25, 2011, 08:01:26 AM
This was one of the main reasons the CBO estimates were dead WRONG.  Now, Obamacare is projected to cost hundreds of billions more than originally planned.

All because some halfwit Kenyan and his Congressional cronies thought they could outsmart the laws of economics.

When will the dolt liberals learn?
Title: Re: Obamacare will cause employees to lose insurance coverage.
Post by: Carl on August 25, 2011, 08:29:11 AM
One DUmbass gets it and understands what the damn thing was about all along.

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SoCalDem  (1000+ posts)        Wed Aug-24-11 01:25 PM
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12. DUH!
 But this is what will eventually drive us into real health care reform..SINGLE PAYER/Medicare for all.

Until the $50K & up workers "lose" employer health care there will never be enough pressure to force the issue.

People do not protest loudly so that someone somewhere can get something that they take for granted, as a given.

People protest to keep what they have.
Title: Re: Obamacare will cause employees to lose insurance coverage.
Post by: jukin on August 25, 2011, 12:08:35 PM
It's going to be a lot more than 10%. The one and only reason that the 0 regime is handing out those waivers is to stem the tide of health insurance cancellations by companies before 2012.

On another note i heard that the average cost to satisfy the government regulations runs around $7500/employee. That would be a nice raise if the government got the **** out of our businesses.
Title: Re: Obamacare will cause employees to lose insurance coverage.
Post by: Wineslob on August 25, 2011, 12:14:49 PM
It's going to be a lot more than 10%. The one and only reason that the 0 regime is handing out those waivers is to stem the tide of health insurance cancellations by companies before 2012.

On another note i heard that the average cost to satisfy the government regulations runs around $7500/employee. That would be a nice raise if the government got the **** out of our businesses.


Ya, so much for the original $6500 that was DOUBLE what I have to pay in now. :hammer:


KILL THE BILL
Title: Re: Obamacare will cause employees to lose insurance coverage.
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 25, 2011, 01:21:54 PM
Law of unintended consequences.  But pretty much as everyone with a brain instead of just 'Hope' predicted.