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Title: primitives discuss obesity; Las Vegas Lardass nowhere to be seen
Post by: franksolich on August 24, 2011, 04:09:29 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=222x108330

Oh my.

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sinkingfeeling  (1000+ posts)        Tue Aug-23-11 03:47 PM
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Obesity's big fat cost to states: $15 billion per year 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44241074/ns/health-diet_and... /

The researchers estimated how much each state spends on obesity-related medical costs each year.

The estimated costs range from $203 million in Wyoming to $15.2 billion in California. (Estimates are in 2009 dollars.)

"This study shows that the toll that obesity takes goes beyond impairing the health of individuals to imposing a major burden on the entire health care system," said study researcher Dr. Carolyn Clancy, director of the U.S. Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality. "Reducing the prevalence of obesity and its complications is an important priority for the nation and requires focused and constant attention."

The researchers also calculated the percentage of each state's medical costs that was due to obesity. They found obesity was responsible for at least10 percent of medical costs in Alabama, Alaska, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Ohio, South Carolina, Tennessee and West Virginia. The lowest percentages were in Colorado and Hawaii.

"Across states, these estimates suggest that annual medical expenditures would be between 7.0 percent and 11.0 percent lower in the absence of obesity, the researchers wrote in a paper published June 16 in the journal Obesity.

In a 2009 paper, the researchers estimated national costs attributable to obesity to be $147 billion.

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JDPriestly  (1000+ posts)        Tue Aug-23-11 03:54 PM
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1. States should offer free memberships in nutrition, health and exercise classes to anyone who is not managing their weight on their own.

I keep my weight down not because I look better (That has become pretty hopeless) but because I feel better. I am sorry for those among us who cannot enjoy a beautiful walk, whose knees have given out under the weight of their torsos, who can barely climb one, much less seven, flights of stairs.

They should be helped, not scolded or ridiculed. And the help should start with a physical examination that eliminates things like thyroid malfunction as the cause.

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get the red out  (1000+ posts)        Tue Aug-23-11 04:43 PM
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2. Prevention is always less expensive
 
In my state overweight and obese is almost the norm at this point. Just going out running errands I see so many obese people who can barely get around, it is horribly sad. I feel so grateful that I am physically able to exercise and though we're hardly rich, we can afford healthy food. It makes me especially sad when I see young children who are obese, if nothing is done for them their lives will be shortened.

I don't know what the answer is, but prevention is always easier than cure after the fact. When I was a young girl slender was the norm. I had a great-aunt that my family considered "fat", I was looking at some old pictures last month and realized that she wouldn't even rate as plump now. I'm 47 so I'm not ancient yet so that wasn't back in the days before cars.

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JDPriestly  (1000+ posts)        Tue Aug-23-11 04:49 PM
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3. Cars are the problem. Nobody walks further than three blocks.

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get the red out  (1000+ posts)        Wed Aug-24-11 08:40 AM
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4. They are a problem

But the culture change since I was a kid, all fast food all the time and no walking anywhere is even bigger, IMO, though certainly helped along by cars.

When I see film footage of average people from the 70's they are dramatically thinner than people today are. But most families I knew had two cars etc... Though I remember eating out being considered way to expensive to do all the time and recreation involved physical activity, especially for young people.
Title: Re: primitives discuss obesity; Las Vegas Lardass nowhere to be seen
Post by: Erasmus on August 24, 2011, 04:56:27 PM
The state always has a solution to the problem of lack of self-responsibility, lol.
Title: Re: primitives discuss obesity; Las Vegas Lardass nowhere to be seen
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 24, 2011, 05:10:48 PM
Back before foodstamps, welfare, free medical care, free housing, etc., etc...I don't remeber there being so many fat people. SOOOO, cut out the government freebies and we can save 2 ways.
Title: Re: primitives discuss obesity; Las Vegas Lardass nowhere to be seen
Post by: franksolich on August 24, 2011, 05:21:57 PM
Back before foodstamps, welfare, free medical care, free housing, etc., etc...I don't remeber there being so many fat people. SOOOO, cut out the government freebies and we can save 2 ways.

Are you sure we aren't twins, sir, the way we always think alike?
Title: Re: primitives discuss obesity; Las Vegas Lardass nowhere to be seen
Post by: BEG on August 24, 2011, 05:26:42 PM
The people you would have to give a free gym membership to wouldn't use it. What are you going to do DUmmie, arrest them?
Title: Re: primitives discuss obesity; Las Vegas Lardass nowhere to be seen
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 24, 2011, 06:26:26 PM
Back before foodstamps, welfare, free medical care, free housing, etc., etc...I don't remeber there being so many fat people. SOOOO, cut out the government freebies and we can save 2 ways.

'Course, most of the work was done manually, and not by computers.  Technology has contributed some to the obesity problem.
Title: Re: primitives discuss obesity; Las Vegas Lardass nowhere to be seen
Post by: jukin on August 24, 2011, 07:43:17 PM
Yep, I remember when poor people didn't weigh in on the north side of 300 pounds.
Title: Re: primitives discuss obesity; Las Vegas Lardass nowhere to be seen
Post by: BEG on August 24, 2011, 07:50:09 PM
Speaking of lard asses, I was reading the school website of the school my youngest will go to once our house is ready and we move into it in Austin.

Thanks Michelle Obama:

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At last Thursday's Board meeting, the Trustees learned of the federally mandated meal price increase which is part of the Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010.

In order to bring about equity between the price charged for a student full price lunch and the federal reimbursement received for a free lunch, the price of lunches must be increased annually until the required price is reached.
Title: Re: primitives discuss obesity; Las Vegas Lardass nowhere to be seen
Post by: thundley4 on August 24, 2011, 07:54:54 PM
Speaking of lard asses, I was reading the school website of the school my youngest will go to once our house is ready and we move into it in Austin.

Thanks Michelle Obama:


But, but , in Detroit all the kids will get free lunches (http://www.detnews.com/article/20110817/SCHOOLS/108170381/1026/DPS-1st-in-Mich.-to-get-free-meals-for-all) , and breakfast and snacks.
Title: Re: primitives discuss obesity; Las Vegas Lardass nowhere to be seen
Post by: Evil_Conservative on August 24, 2011, 08:10:08 PM
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I am sorry for those among us who cannot enjoy a beautiful walk, whose knees have given out under the weight of their torsos, who can barely climb one, much less seven, flights of stairs.

All they need to do is put down the fork.  Why does the government have to step in to "help" them? 
Title: Re: primitives discuss obesity; Las Vegas Lardass nowhere to be seen
Post by: Evil_Conservative on August 24, 2011, 08:12:45 PM
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When I see film footage of average people from the 70's they are dramatically thinner than people today are.

Cars were invented way before the 70's.  How can cars be blamed for obesity?
Title: Re: primitives discuss obesity; Las Vegas Lardass nowhere to be seen
Post by: GOBUCKS on August 24, 2011, 08:18:22 PM
Yep, I remember when poor people didn't weigh in on the north side of 300 pounds.
Yes. The modern U.S.A. is the only society in human history in which the most impoverished members can be identified by their obesity.