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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: miskie on August 17, 2011, 10:52:59 AM
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Thats right kids -- dead last :rotf:
Thread here -- http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1757105
kpete (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-17-11 11:38 AM
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REPORT: Texas Ranks Dead Last In Total Job Creation
Edited on Wed Aug-17-11 11:41 AM by kpete
REPORT: Texas Ranks Dead Last In Total Job Creation, Accounting For Labor Force Growth
By ThinkProgress on Aug 17, 2011 at 9:45 am
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In fact, “Texas has done worse than the rest of the country since the peak of national unemployment in October 2009.†The unemployment rate in Texas has been steadily increasing throughout the recession, and went from 7.7 to 8.2 percent while the state was supposedly creating 40 percent of all the new jobs in the U.S.
How is this possible, since Texas has created over 126,000 jobs since the depths of the recession in February 2009? The fact of the matter is that looking purely at job creation misses a key point, namely that Texas has also experienced incredibly rapid population and labor force growth (due to a series of factors, including that Texas weathered the housing bubble reasonably well due to strict mortgage lending regulations). When this is taken into account, Texas’ job creation looks decidedly less impressive:
<snipped chart data>
To Summarize :
A ) Texas Employment is booming by comparison to the rest of the United States.
B ) People flock to Texas to get a part of the economy for themselves & their families.
C ) Immigration to Texas out-paces job growth, meaning that there is a greater difference between jobs available and population.
Therefore - Texas is losing jobs.... and Perry is to blame.
This is potatonomics at it's finest. - I mean, this logic is so tortured, contorted, and twisted that it has the same feeling as a spreadsheet by TIA. And the primitives are eating it up.
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Muahahahahahah liberals!
We haz ur jobz.
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When you can't win it, spin it.
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Indeed -- here is the chart I snipped from above --
(http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/texas_labor-2.png)
Everything you need to know about this chart is available in the first line -- Look at the state with the highest job growth...
Michigan.. MICHIGAN ?!? Really ??
The state that everybody is fleeing from..
The state where entire city blocks are unpopulated because nobody wants to live or work there.
The state that plans to force relocate some reluctant tenants and homeowners so that entire residential communities may be leveled and given back to nature...
This is the MOSTEST BESTEST !!11!! State according to this chart... :mental:
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It's pretty easy to manipulate statistics. I do it for a living after all. This is such a bogus "report". I could come up with some criteria that would turn that entire chart upside down. Of course I'm not TIA and don't have the time, just saying.
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And a primitive shoots himself in the foot...
BNJMN (289 posts) Wed Aug-17-11 11:52 AM
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4. 1) Texas did not 'create' these jobs, they stole them from other states. 2) Uh, this housing thing?
'Report: Austin among 10 'worst' housing markets next five years'
http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news/2011/07/01/austin-one-of-10-worst-housing-markets.html
The pricing bubble is still expanding in Austin.
1 ) When all else fails, revert to the 'STOLEN 1!!!!11!!!!' meme ...
2 ) Isn't Austin the one big Texas city that is where the liberals are all holed up ?
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2 ) Isn't Austin the one big Texas city that is where the liberals are all holed up ?
Yes. And it is a beautiful & fun city as well. Except for the hippie libs, of course.
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And a primitive shoots himself in the foot...
1 ) When all else fails, revert to the 'STOLEN 1!!!!11!!!!' meme ...
2 ) Isn't Austin the one big Texas city that is where the liberals are all holed up ?
My husband found a job in Austin a week after he started looking. This is his 2nd week of work. I wonder what the average time DUers have been unemployed?
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I wonder what the average time DUers have been unemployed?
Sometimes Three Freaking Years (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1745298)
madmom (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-15-11 03:53 PM
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My daughter has a JOB!...it isn't much just part time at a
little carry out down the road, but it's better than nothing. She's been living at home and without a job for 3 years. She's starting back to school in the fall and this is exactly what she wanted/needed to help with expenses.
(http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/images/anim_bounce.gif) (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/images/anim_bounce.gif)
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Okay, DUmmies--break down unemployment by state. Where do your vaunted liberal paradises stand versus "blue" states?
I know where mine lies--fourth-best unemployment rate in the nation at 4.9 percent. New York? 8.0 percent. Illinois? 9.2 percent. Michigan? 10.5 percent. California? 11.8 percent. Now mind you, the actual "unemployed" doesn't include discouraged workers, or those working part-time who would LIKE to work full-time, in which case, the unemployment rate in some of your liberal shitholes would be well above 20 percent; i.e., Great Depression levels.
Job creation? Hey, if 1 million jobs are created in a state that has 2 million people show up, guess how the leftards spin it?
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My husband found a job in Austin a week after he started looking. This is his 2nd week of work. I wonder what the average time DUers have been unemployed?
Bingo--I've been working since I was 14 (part-time) and full-time since I joined the Navy at 17. In the nearly 30 years since, I've been unemployed TWO WEEKS.
That's right, DUmmies--TWO ****ING WEEKS IN 30 YEARS. Don't tell me I haven't earned the right to tell you lazy ****s to get off your asses and get to work.
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She's starting back to school in the fall and this is exactly what she wanted/needed to help with expenses.
Why are they always going back to school? Basket weaving not working out?
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Michigan showed +150,000, but the chart is change in number of jobs minus change in workforce.
If, for example, the state lost a million jobs, but the workforce went down by two million people leaving the state,
the chart would show +1,000,000.
What the chart shows is that people are fleeing Michigan, New York, and Pennsylvania in droves and swarming into the prosperous southern red states.
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1) Texas did not 'create' these jobs, they stole them from other states.
We did not "steal" anything. We have a sensible tax system, we're a right to work state, and we don't have lunatic regulations like the Communist Capital of the West, California does. Businesses GLADLY came here, scumbags. If Texas' approach was taken NATIONAL, we'd be stealing jobs from Europe and other countries now. But liberals are too stupid to put two and two together. And why would we need to create jobs when jobs are moving here? :loser: The correct analysis is precisely to look at the unemployment rate and the total job growth, including jobs that moved here.
2) Uh, this housing thing?
'Report: Austin among 10 'worst' housing markets next five years'
I'll see your "projections" and raise you reality - California, Nevada, Florida, NJ, etc. All took much, much larger hits than this piddly piece of poopy propaganda claims will hit Austin, lol. How much in state fees alone do you have to pay before you can even break ground on a house in California? $20k? Idiots.
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And then there's this --
According to the chart, Michigan is number one for job growth, whereas according to this story (also on DU..) http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1757185
RandySF (1000+ posts) Wed Aug-17-11 11:49 AM
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Report: 36% of Michigan kids live in jobless households From The Detroit News
Lansing— Unemployment has taken a toll on children in Michigan, with 36 percent living in families in which neither parent has a full-time, year-round job, according to a report out today.
Michigan has more children living without a working parent than 46 other states, according to the 22nd annual Kids Count Data Book by the Annie E. Casey Foundation.
Alaska tied Michigan, and only Kentucky at 38 percent and Mississippi at 39 percent had more kids in households that lack secure parental employment in 2009.
The previous year, Michigan ranked 44th with 31 percent of children in households with neither parent holding a full-time job all year.
http://detnews.com/article/20110817/METRO/108170383/Report--36--of-Michigan-kids-live-in-jobless-households#ixzz1VIlu9hDv
So which is it, primitives ?
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Michigan showed +150,000, but the chart is change in number of jobs minus change in workforce.
If, for example, the state lost a million jobs, but the workforce went down by two million people leaving the state,
the chart would show +1,000,000.
What the chart shows is that people are fleeing Michigan, New York, and Pennsylvania in droves and swarming into the prosperous southern red states.
That is correct -
But thats not going to swing the Potatonomic Ninja Cum-Laudes at DU from their interpretation. :whatever:
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So...
...people fleeing the rest of the nation into your state because it has the best housing and jobs market is now a detractor.
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So...
...people fleeing the rest of the nation into your state because it has the best housing and jobs market is now a detractor.
You get a Hi5 for an excellent example of potatonomics..................and DUmmie stupidity.
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So...
...people fleeing the rest of the nation into your state because it has the best housing and jobs market is now a detractor.
Funny, in my experience it seems the majority of people that move here because of the above gripe about being here. :thatsright:
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Oh my God. Stupid. I laughed at the idiocy of this through the whole thread. The DUmmies don't see that, really? People actually fleeing these blue state paradises of theirs? And the "stolen" jobs....WTF? It doesn't work that way, you ****ing braindead DUmbasses.
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Oh my God. Stupid. I laughed at the idiocy of this through the whole thread. The DUmmies don't see that, really? People actually fleeing these blue state paradises of theirs? And the "stolen" jobs....WTF? It doesn't work that way, you ****ing braindead DUmbasses.
I know, this puzzles me to no end. Liberals and their Marxist policies ran those jobs out of those states. They apparently DIDN'T WANT those jobs to stay in their states.
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I know, this puzzles me to no end. Liberals andtheir Marxist policies ran those jobs out of those states. They apparently DIDN'T WANT those jobs to stay in their states.
No, no, no, you Rethug. It just diden't work, this* time.
* Ya I harp on that, but these idiots actually believe this. :thatsright:
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1+1=mashed potatoes with butter and gravy.
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1+1=mashed potatoes with butter and gravy.
MMMMMMMMMMMM, gravy! :drool:
If you took that chart and reversed it, THEN it would be 100% correct.
WV is loosing jobs thanks to Zero's EPA, MSHA, and OSHA closing coal mines, VA has erased a $2 billion budget shortfall in 2 years thanks to our Republican governor, and consistently has an unemployment rate 1-2% LOWER than the national average.
I could tell the DUmmies what to do with there* charts and stats, but they would like it too much.
*I did this so DUmmies could understand it. There, their, they're are all interchangeable to them.
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Read this link DUmmies: LINK (http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2011/08/18/new-liberal-claim-tx-is-the-worst-state-for-job-creation/)
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I'll go even one step further, DUmmies--this guy is a LIBERAL and trashes your meme:
LINK (http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590)
That's gonna leave a mark.
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That's a great link, Sparky. In a nutshell, "Give up trashing Texas jobs. You can't win that argument."
The guy may be a lib, but he removes himself from that lunacy, and looks strictly at the math. Go over and look, lurkers. I dare you. Oh that's right, math is hard. It's also black and white, right or wrong.
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Texas has also experienced incredibly rapid population and labor force growth (due to a series of factors, including that Texas weathered the housing bubble reasonably well due to strict mortgage lending regulations).
I wonder how much of that "incredibly rapid population and labor force growth" is from illegal aliens.
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Yes, you cannot spin the numbers to make Texas look bad and do so with any amount of honesty.
The bottom line is: socialism and big government have failed, yet again, as predicted. Why? YOU CANNOT LEGISLATE AWAY THE LAWS OF ECONOMICS.
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I wonder how much of that "incredibly rapid population and labor force growth" is from illegal aliens.
That is all the growth going on in my side of town.
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That's a great link, Sparky. In a nutshell, "Give up trashing Texas jobs. You can't win that argument."
The guy may be a lib, but he removes himself from that lunacy, and looks strictly at the math. Go over and look, lurkers. I dare you. Oh that's right, math is hard. It's also black and white, right or wrong.
Mathematics and mathematicians are racist. [/DU]