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Title: ATF Director Reassigned; U.S. Attorney Out Amid 'Fast and Furious' Uproar
Post by: thundley4 on August 16, 2011, 04:48:26 PM
Payoffs to keep them from blabbing more? (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/08/16/139682699/atf-promotes-supervisors-of-its-controversial-fast-and-furious-operation)

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The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has promoted three managers who were involved in the agency's "Fast and Furious" operation, which allowed weapons to be illegally smuggled across the U.S. border into Mexico.

The Los Angeles Times, which broke the story, reports:

All three have been heavily criticized for pushing the program forward even as it became apparent that it was out of control. At least 2,000 guns were lost and many turned up at crime scenes in Mexico and two at the killing of a U.S. Border Patrol agent in Arizona.

The three supervisors have been given new management positions at the agency's headquarters in Washington. They are William G. McMahon, who was the ATF's deputy director of operations in the West, where the illegal trafficking program was focused, and William D. Newell and David Voth, both field supervisors who oversaw the program out of the agency's Phoenix office.

Last month, in testimony before the House Committee On Oversight And Government Reform, McMahon admitted mistakes in the implementation of the operation.

"I share responsibility for mistakes that we made in the Fast and Furious investigation," McMahon said in a prepared statement. "The advantage of hindsight and the benefit of a thorough review of this case clearly points me to things that I would have done differently. However good our intentions, regardless of our resource challenges, and notwithstanding the difficult legal hurdles we face in fighting firearms traffickers, we made mistakes."
Title: Re: ATF Director Reassigned; U.S. Attorney Out Amid 'Fast and Furious' Uproar
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 16, 2011, 04:57:55 PM
Apparently doing obviously-stupid things that get Federal agents killed for nothing is a great management career path in the ATF, judging by incidents from Waco to this one.
Title: Re: ATF Director Reassigned; U.S. Attorney Out Amid 'Fast and Furious' Uproar
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 16, 2011, 05:02:36 PM
Apparently doing obviously-stupid things that get Federal agents killed for nothing is a great management career path in the ATF, judging by incidents from Waco to this one.

Hey, it's all in the "Obama Standards for Promotion". Besides, it's the pay off for protecting the president.
Title: Re: ATF Director Reassigned; U.S. Attorney Out Amid 'Fast and Furious' Uproar
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on August 16, 2011, 05:17:45 PM
Promotion or hush money?
Title: Re: ATF Director Reassigned; U.S. Attorney Out Amid 'Fast and Furious' Uproar
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 16, 2011, 05:46:15 PM
Promotion or hush money?

Both.
Title: Re: ATF Director Reassigned; U.S. Attorney Out Amid 'Fast and Furious' Uproar
Post by: CG6468 on August 16, 2011, 07:16:33 PM
The Peter Principle at work.
Title: Re: ATF Director Reassigned; U.S. Attorney Out Amid 'Fast and Furious' Uproar
Post by: thundley4 on August 16, 2011, 07:31:05 PM
The Peter Principle at work.

That is how we got Obama, but this is different.
Title: Re: ATF Director Reassigned; U.S. Attorney Out Amid 'Fast and Furious' Uproar
Post by: whiffleball on August 17, 2011, 05:15:13 AM
"**** up and move up" in action with the fed.
Title: Re: ATF Director Reassigned; U.S. Attorney Out Amid 'Fast and Furious' Uproar
Post by: Chris_ on August 30, 2011, 01:25:29 PM
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/ken_melson.jpg)

Acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson has been reassigned to a lesser post in the Justice Department and the U.S. attorney for Arizona was also pushed out Tuesday as fallout from Operation Fast and Furious reached new heights.

Melson's step down from his role as head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to the position of senior adviser on forensic science in the Department of Justice's Office of Legal Programs is effective by close of business Tuesday, administration officials announced. U.S. Attorney for the District of Minnesota B. Todd Jones will replace Melson.

U.S. Attorney for Arizona Dennis Burke, one of the officials closely tied to Fast and Furious, is also a casualty in a shakeup tied to the botched gun-running program. Burke was on the hot seat last week with congressional investigators and, according to several sources, got physically sick during questioning and could not finish his session

In Phoenix, Assistant U.S. Attorney Emory Hurley, who oversaw Fast and Furious on a day-to-day basis, was reassigned from the criminal to civil division. Also in Phoenix, three out of the four whistleblowers involved in the case have been reassigned to new positions outside Arizona. Two are headed to Florida, one to South Carolina.

Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/30/sources-atf-director-to-be-reassigned-amid-fast-and-furious-uproar/#ixzz1WXOH5F6d)


Too little.
Title: Re: ATF Director Reassigned; U.S. Attorney Out Amid 'Fast and Furious' Uproar
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 30, 2011, 01:47:32 PM
Just shuffled around.  Nobody actually fired or even disciplined at ATF, only the one U.S. Attorney 'Serving at will' appointee gone.
Title: Re: ATF Director Reassigned; U.S. Attorney Out Amid 'Fast and Furious' Uproar
Post by: BlueStateSaint on August 30, 2011, 01:47:57 PM
They should be "out and reassigned" to Florence CO, along with Eric Holder.  As permanent residents.
Title: Re: ATF Director Reassigned; U.S. Attorney Out Amid 'Fast and Furious' Uproar
Post by: FreeBorn on August 30, 2011, 02:49:37 PM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ0epRjfGLw[/youtube]
Title: Re: ATF Director Reassigned; U.S. Attorney Out Amid 'Fast and Furious' Uproar
Post by: Ptarmigan on August 30, 2011, 10:46:02 PM
They should be tried for aiding the enemy.
Title: Re: ATF Director Reassigned; U.S. Attorney Out Amid 'Fast and Furious' Uproar
Post by: Janice on September 01, 2011, 03:31:24 PM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WnXANaE27o[/youtube]

Issa to DOJ: We’ve been Gamed (http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/08/31/issa-doj-we-ve-been-gamed)

Rep. Darrell Issa told Greta Van Susteren that the House Oversight Committee is being gamed by the Obama Administration. He also said he knew that most all of the weapons in the Fast and Furious program were in the hands of the Mexican cartels.