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Title: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 07:59:58 PM
Anybody else watching tonight?

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Five things to watch in the Iowa GOP debate

Thursday night's debate on the campus of Iowa State University will be shown on Fox News Channel and will pit eight contenders for the Republican presidential nomination against each other. Expect plenty of Obama-bashing, but the question, as always with events like these, is whether the candidates will violate Ronald Reagan's commandment and take each other on. Here are some things to keep an eye on.

Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-five-things-debate-20110811,0,7338934.story?track=rss)

The iTunes app doesn't seem to be working.  Listen here: http://affiliates.foxnewsradio.com/radio/special.html
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 08:07:37 PM
Ron Paul brought his cheering section with him.  He was doing good until after the bell when he borrowed a play from Barney Frank's tired old book.

Herman Cain is up and some guy named Huntsman.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Rugnuts on August 11, 2011, 08:12:08 PM
loud n clear
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 08:12:49 PM
Gingrich knows his numbers but he likes the taste of his feet too much to suit me. I don't trust him to be a dependable leader.

Next, please.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 08:13:45 PM
Did Pawlenty repeat what Cain just said?  Come on, man.

I wish I could see my TV from here.  I wonder what Michelle Bachmann is wearing.  :naughty:
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 08:16:20 PM
Oooh, that had to sting.  +1 to Michelle. :II:

Pawlenty follows with a jab and Bachmann counters. :-)
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 08:27:32 PM
OH!  OUCH!  And Wallace delivers a knee to Newt's groin.  That had to hurt!

:popcorn:

I wish I could have transcribed that.  It will show up tomorrow.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 08:37:00 PM
Quite a few polished non-answer on immigration.  Ron Paul just sounds like a freakin' fruit loop.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Ree on August 11, 2011, 08:39:59 PM
Romney still looks like a Ken doll
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Mike220 on August 11, 2011, 08:42:50 PM
Ron Paul just sounds like a freakin' fruit loop.

If nothing else, at least he's consistent.

Pawlenty and Bachmann attacking each other is going to be the story of the night, though.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 08:43:18 PM
Pawlenty and Bachmann attacking each other is going to be the story of the night, though.
True.  I kinda wish they'd move on.  There's plenty of time for that.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 09:10:32 PM
Ron Paul: Obama is too tough on Iran.

Yeah, he's a ****ing fruit loop.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Mike220 on August 11, 2011, 09:11:33 PM
Ron Paul has the foreign and military affairs expertise of the gum on the bottom of my shoe.

No problem with the Iranians building a nuke.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 09:18:34 PM
This debate is over... it's Paul-bashin' time, I guess.

I got lost about 15 minutes ago.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:20:44 PM
they gave paul enough time to make us all look like lunatics.

Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:21:53 PM
libertarians are all fine and good, but their philosophy never took national security into consideration
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: CG6468 on August 11, 2011, 09:22:36 PM
This debate is over... it's Paul-bashin' time, I guess.

I got lost about 15 minutes ago.

I'm falling sleep.............  :whistling:  :popcorn:
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:22:44 PM
michelle sparkled, to the extent that they gave her camera time
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 09:23:57 PM
michelle sparkled, to the extent that they gave her camera time
Indeed.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:25:17 PM
Indeed.

this debate just reinforces my support for bachmann.  and I am in an early state -- SC.

Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 09:26:30 PM
The problem with having this many people in the pool is that they all sound the same after a while, especially when they only have 60 seconds to "discuss" a topic.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:27:08 PM
byron york just tossed her a hand granade

The problem with having this many people in the pool is that they all sound the same after a while, especially when they only have 60 seconds to "discuss" a topic.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:27:45 PM
OMG!

she is hitting it out of the park!
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: CG6468 on August 11, 2011, 09:28:31 PM
It's not a debate, and it's barely a discussion.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:29:22 PM
ok.  10 minutes ago, I merely supported michelle.  after that answer, I think I will create a temple amd worship her.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:29:58 PM
It's not a debate, and it's barely a discussion.

it is for "other people", pal. 
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:30:46 PM
dr nutz is up
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:31:44 PM
dr nutz is very close to eradicating stop signs
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 09:32:03 PM
Ron Paul: :blah:
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:32:23 PM
santorum is such a non-entity. 
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:33:24 PM
Michelle rocks again
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:34:18 PM
does anyone care what santorum says?
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:35:25 PM
santorum couldn't beat the mildly retarded son of a former governor in order to keep his senate seat.

Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 09:36:00 PM
does anyone care what santorum says?
Huntsman, Santorum, Pawlenty... what's the difference? :yawn:

It's like being stuck in rush-hour traffic.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:36:19 PM
(should I shut up?  I just sorta showed up and started spewing stuff)

Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:37:47 PM
god knows that they are infinitely boring.

Huntsman, Santorum, Pawlenty... what's the difference? :yawn:

It's like being stuck in rush-hour traffic.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Mike220 on August 11, 2011, 09:44:47 PM
Talking about the Fed now. RuPaul will have a field day if they ask him anything.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:45:48 PM
dr nutz is still nuts.

Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:48:05 PM
santorum is a freaking non starter.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:52:46 PM
no child left behind was working fine -- that's why teachers in ATL and PHIL CHEATED.

Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:53:46 PM
closing comments -- santorum . . .  zzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:54:57 PM
cain --  he is a governmental neophyte.  we tried that the last time
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:55:19 PM
paul -- I hate that I agree with him so much
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:55:41 PM
romney can blow me
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:56:09 PM
next?
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:56:56 PM
Michelle continues to sparkle
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:57:20 PM
pawlenty is a good guy, but he's just boring
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 09:57:33 PM
:rofl:  If you're going to crib from Stan Lee, at least get it right.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:58:08 PM
huntsman probably did himself some good tonight, but only because he was nowhere last night
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:58:39 PM
I am scared.  I am agreeing with newt.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:59:19 PM
those were all my original thoughts. :rofl:

:rofl:  If you're going to crib from Stan Lee, at least get it right.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Mike220 on August 11, 2011, 09:59:25 PM
I am scared.  I am agreeing with newt.

Some alcohol will take care of that.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 09:59:51 PM
michelle won the debate.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 10:00:25 PM
dude, I am trying.  ask anyone!

Some alcohol will take care of that.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 10:01:40 PM
oh, god.  frank luntz is on.  i hate this guy, as well as his hamsters that spin the "like" wheel.

Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Mike220 on August 11, 2011, 10:04:09 PM
oh, god.  frank luntz is on.  i hate this guy, as well as his hamsters that spin the "like" wheel.



I do think he was right that Pawlenty screwed himself completely tonight, though.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 10:09:03 PM
I do think he was right that Pawlenty screwed himself completely tonight, though.

pawlenty was already history.  this debate was between michelle and romney.  and she cleaned his clock
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 11, 2011, 10:10:03 PM
newt was good tonight, though.  he always is in the debate format.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 10:10:27 PM
Way too much clutter in this debate... too many mouths flapping.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 11, 2011, 10:18:19 PM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxQTp07KS_k&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

A good answer from Newt, but Wallace's reply was pretty harsh.  I felt it all the way over here.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Wretched Excess on August 12, 2011, 01:50:23 AM
we have to work on this, don't we?

Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: NHSparky on August 12, 2011, 06:23:45 AM
dr nutz is up

Please tell me why anyone with more than five functional brain cells considers this guy a serious candidate?  He's the right's version of Dennis Kucinich.  Actually, those two agree on a lot of points.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Eupher on August 12, 2011, 08:32:10 AM
Please tell me why anyone with more than five functional brain cells considers this guy a serious candidate?  He's the right's version of Dennis Kucinich.  Actually, those two agree on a lot of points.

Your question is rhetorical, but I'll bite -- I think he appeals to those who are disaffected with both political parties.

Ron Paul doesn't have the guts to stay within the Libertarian party, because he knows it's a lost cause, so he's going to cloud the Republican party with his level of insanity.

That kind of hypocrisy apparently doesn't register with the Paulbots, so that's what we get -- scads of folks who are sick of the Washington two-step but somehow believe that a 3rd party is going to make the butt-hurt go away.

In a pig's ass.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: CG6468 on August 12, 2011, 08:51:02 AM
He sure did bring his troops to the debate last night, didn't he? Everything he did or said got loud applause.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 12, 2011, 09:00:13 AM
Judging by the coverage I've seen this morning, it doesn't seem to have improved the position of any of the front-runners, nor to have turned any of the also-rans into leaders.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Rugnuts on August 12, 2011, 11:38:36 AM
A good answer from Newt, but Wallace's reply was pretty harsh.  I felt it all the way over here.
yes his initial answer was good. wallace's reply was harsh, but it was newts rebuttal at the end that dealt the KO punch. slamming the media for not distinguishing all Rep. candidates from Obama.

Judging by the coverage I've seen this morning, it doesn't seem to have improved the position of any of the front-runners, nor to have turned any of the also-rans into leaders.
my take on the debate, the top runners maintained their pedestal, Bachman, Cain, Romney did no harm. 3 of the bottom feeders, forgot their names because they are meaningless, ate their scraps. paul pleased his followers. and newt, who was thought to be down an out, actually put up a fight and gets my "debate winner" nod. im not saying he put himself on top in the RACE, just the debate. After winning this battle, he still has a long way to go to win the war.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 12, 2011, 12:15:27 PM
Yeah, a lot of people are saying Newt made the most impact in the debate, just as far as debate performance alone goes.  It still doesn't make him a viable candidate though.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Karin on August 12, 2011, 12:56:16 PM
Thanks for this thread, because my TV shit the bed last night.  Just curious, how was Wallace harsh? 
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Chris_ on August 12, 2011, 01:08:28 PM
I guess his answer seemed that way at the time.  I was not expecting him to stand up to Gingrich.  
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If you think questions about your record are Mickey Mouse, I'm sorry. I think those are questions that a lot of people want to hear answers to and you're responsible for your record, sir.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Lacarnut on August 12, 2011, 01:15:08 PM
Thanks for this thread, because my TV shit the bed last night.  Just curious, how was Wallace harsh?  

I think Wallace is an asshole and is into gotcha questions. If I am not mistaken, Cain has lost a bunch of his campaign employees. Who really gives a shit though?

One thing that did irritate me was the fact that the moderators allowed Dr Nutz rebuttal time on practically every question. I bet his air time was far more than Newt, Romney or the rest of the candidates.   
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: rich_t on August 12, 2011, 04:02:37 PM
I watched most of the debate on you tube this morning.

Some did OK.  I liked Newt's response to that idiot Wallace.  Ron P. still sounds like a moonbat to me.

It's time to start narrowing the field though.  I just hope that Romney isn't the nominee next year.  If he is, Obama may very well get a second term.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: CG6468 on August 12, 2011, 04:07:06 PM
Different strokes for different folks. I like Wallace. He's not afraid to ask politicians anything, and he won't step back from his questions. If they don't like him, that's a great + in my book.

 
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 12, 2011, 05:54:37 PM
Different strokes for different folks. I like Wallace. He's not afraid to ask politicians anything, and he won't step back from his questions. If they don't like him, that's a great + in my book.

 

Yeah, I think Wallace is one of the few reporters who won't just take a non-answer and move on.  I like that about him.
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: Lacarnut on August 12, 2011, 10:13:19 PM
Different strokes for different folks. I like Wallace. He's not afraid to ask politicians anything, and he won't step back from his questions. If they don't like him, that's a great + in my book.

 

I thought the question was stupid. After Newt answered the question, Wallace got his wittie bitty feeling hurt and had to make a counter attack statement. I don't like Wallace nor most journalists. They are always trying to create sensationalism.

Do you have a problem with York asking Bachmann a question about being submissive to her husband? You better believe Hillary wore the pants when it was a family; a man would have never been asked that question. Another chicken shit and rather sexist question if you ask me.

Overall the debate was pathetic in that the panel allowed Paul to hog more of the time than others, and a number of the questions had little substance in defeating Obama. 
Title: Re: August 11, 2011 Iowa GOP debate
Post by: CG6468 on August 12, 2011, 10:20:16 PM
As I said, different strokes....