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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on August 11, 2011, 12:36:09 PM
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-11-11 12:35 PM
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America's 14 Most Ready to Riot Cities
Here's a list of 14 large American cities that may be ready to erupt. They have been identified by sorting common social, economic and demographic data including: unemployment, education, income, crime, housing and homelessness.
Other data was also included that might indicate probable "flash points" igniting unrest. These include: cities with especially high rates of reported police misconduct, high disparity between rich and poor, city budget deficits threatening social services, high incidence of hate crime, and large difference in home values between neighborhoods.
One such statistic is the Wealth Disparity Index is calculated as a "Gini" co-efficient. The index measures the inequality of the local wealth distribution. In this case, the closer the index number is to 1 the greater the disparity between the haves and have nots.
If the American economy should take another dive into "official recession" makes little difference if our cities and states become dysfunctional with a recovery that does not include jobs and a missing safety net to catch those victimized by an economic system based on fraud.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/3/America-s-14-Most-Ready-to-by-Chaz-Valenza-110811-723.html
I found the socio economic analysis well done. It does not mean we are going to have a riot tomorrow or the week after tomorrow or next year. But if you were going to have the CONDITIONS, that lead to one, these are the best candidates, but far from the only candidates.
Now necessary disclaimer... understanding why they happen does not mean one condones them. Sad that one needs to post such a disclaimer but such is life.
Nadin wants riots. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1718332)
Almost every city listed is a DemonRat stronghold with high minority populations.
zappaman (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-11-11 12:40 PM
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1. I predict that someday
there will be a riot in America.
then, you will all bow to my superior intellect as I will have shown how smart I am to have predicted this riot.
bookmark this page to see I will be right!
Must be a fan of nadin.
anamandujano (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-11-11 12:43 PM
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2. Watching the UK has been scary.
"understanding why they happen does not mean one condones them."
Yes.
Something needs to happen here but not like that.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Aug-11-11 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Agreed that not like that, but currennt TRENDS
are current trends.
And the point is they just don't happen... they come from helplessness and a few other matters.
We have time to turn those around...
Also there is something else that to a point bothers me. People can comprehend why Tahrir square happened, in broad points... even Greece or even Spain... which have had a few very bloody rioty demonstrations... but this one causes visceral fear.
I get it by the way, it is just an observation, And I do not, ever, want to be even in the same state where one is occurring.
nadin should move to a red state.
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which have had a few very bloody rioty demonstrations... but this
Ooooh, new word alert. Personally, I would have went with riotous ... but rioty has a nice ring to it.
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Why are all the cities listed under Democrat control?
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Why are all the cities listed under Democrat control?
Because Carl's Burgers left those cities and the rest of the rich don't pay their fair share there.
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Riots are the result from decades of leftist policies that have reduced a certain percentage of our population to little more then savages.
Subsidized child making without a family structure,no respect for the sanctity of life,no value of property,no pride or self respect and on and on.
It was your idiotic ilk that built that situation you stupid cow so **** off with your babble.
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Purest crap.
Riots in any of the cities identified may well happen, but it will be purely coincidental rather than due to the numbercrunched sociometric BS stats and 'Indexes' used for that silly article. The two biggest factors will be level of street crime/gang activity, and illegitimacy rates, neither one of which is considered in the bullshit analysis at her link.
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Purest crap.
Riots in any of the cities identified may well happen, but it will be purely coincidental rather than due to the numbercrunched sociometric BS stats and 'Indexes' used for that silly article. The two biggest factors will be level of street crime/gang activity, and illegitimacy rates, neither one of which is considered in the bullshit analysis at her link.
Those and other cities are susceptible to riots based on the causes of the one in London. A perceived injustice caused by the police or courts system.
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All of the above and the entitlement mentality that their liberal leaders have instilled in their very genetics. You don't create crack addicts and then withhold the crack and expect pleasant things to happen.
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Those and other cities are susceptible to riots based on the causes of the one in London. A perceived injustice caused by the police or courts system.
Sure, and historically that is the kind of thing that has been the catalyst or trigger, but I'm talking about the conditions that make a place ripe for that triggering event to result in a riot instead of just the normal on-camera wailing from mother on the evening news about how her little dirtbag gangbanger never did nuthin' wrong in spite of all those prior convictions, and being in juvie hall more than home from the age of 14 onward.
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Interesting. Goonads finds some obscure small business owner (currently working on a feature film), and totes the idiot as an authority.
Are you freaking kidding me, Goonads. :banghead:
New addition to the resume...Holly wood talent scout.
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I can explain riots very simply. Hoodrats are always looking to score a widescreen and a pair of sneaks.
All they need is an excuse. Perceived injustice has nothing to do with it.
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I love watching knowitallnadin getting smacked down.
SlimJimmy Donating Member (814 posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-11-11 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #71
72. Do you want to have a discussion, or do you want to baffle us with your BS?
A better discussion of social conditions that led to riots would have been the rebellion in New York during the Civil War. A rebellion that was put down by federal troops and cost numerous lives. Those days are gone, and we won't be seeing anything like them again, now or in the future.
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-11-11 02:58 PM
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73. A civil war is a riot? Mkay...
and that is why we should not have a conversation, you will continue to poison the well, have a goood LOOOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGGGGG day.
Oh and forget about the cover of ignore, you ain't going there, EVER,
zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-11-11 02:59 PM
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74. you have no idea what you are talking about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_draft_riots
as a student of history, I find your lack of knowledge of this incident to be baffling.
SlimJimmy Donating Member (814 posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-11-11 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #73
75. The riots occured because of the draft imposed by President Lincoln *during*
the Civil War. Did you actually read what I wrote?
Don't worry she's googling it as you type.
SlimJimmy Donating Member (814 posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-11-11 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #78
82. See, now we're having a discussion ...
The relevant passages from your response are:
But keep saying that I am like glenny and waiting for the riot next door TONIGHT... which you did. And when you start a discussion that way... there is nowhere for a discussion to go but down. It is called poisoning the well and a few of you are experts of just straddling the line.
I said you and Beck were predicting future riots based on prevailing social conditions. And a fair reading of your OP would certainly indicate that. So I stand by my original statement. Feel free to disagree. That's how discussions work.
Oh and PS a civil war is NOT the same thing as a riot.
The draft riots were *during* the civil war, not part of it. And they were *certainly* based on a sense of class warfare (prevailing social conditions; rich vs poor). To be honest, I highly suspect that you didn't know about them until I brought it up during our discussion. But that's okay; we all can't know everything about everything - I certainly don't.
nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-11-11 01:56 PM
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48. THen I will keep alerting on them
it is simple..,. I hate stalkers and some of them ARE stalkers and bullies too.
pintobean (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-11-11 02:04 PM
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50. Yes, you're the victim, nadin.
:eyes:
It's hard to claim you're being stalked when you have so many threads going all the time. When you're everywhere, you're going to run into some of the same people.
zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Aug-11-11 02:08 PM
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53. transalation:
I don't like to be disagreed with and will whine about it....constantly.
Unrecc'ed for a horrible source and the constant gloom/doom coupled with the "woe is me" prevalent in every single thread.
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Ooooh, new word alert. Personally, I would have went with riotous ... but rioty has a nice ring to it.
WTF over? We have had few bloody riots? Somebody forget the 60's race riots and the Watts riots? Not to mention the Rodney King Riot and more. Somebody had to be taking serious drugs for the last 30+ years.
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WTF over? We have had few bloody riots? Somebody forget the 60's race riots and the Watts riots? Not to mention the Rodney King Riot and more. Somebody had to be taking serious drugs for the last 30+ years.
It was early in my life, but I vaguely remember the late 60s Detroit riots. I grew up in the aftermath of them. I've seen the physical impact, the financial impact, and the social impact.
I hope nutball Nadin, and all the rest of the DUmb a-holes like her, have a painful brain aneurism for wishing them on anyone. That is a horrible thing to glamorize and idealize.
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She just rubs me the wrong way.....She totally talks out of her ass....
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She just rubs me the wrong way.....She totally talks out of her ass....
You know it. Crazy would be an improvment for her.
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I can explain riots very simply. Hoodrats are always looking to score a widescreen and a pair of sneaks.
All they need is an excuse. Perceived injustice has nothing to do with it.
I was looking through a bunch of pictures from the London riots, and saw one with four perps in it- and all of them appeared to be sporting new shoes. The picture someone snapped showed them robbing a clothing store. Clearly, they needed some new jeans to go with their new shoes.
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How many small shop owners lost everything?
Do those punks ever think of that?
Their ability to riot and destroy is only due to one thing.
The former "great" britain, has no second amendment.
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Wow, who is this bimbo? Really. I am just now becoming familiar with her postings. Self professed student of history and had no idea what any one was talking about with the riots during the Civil War? Expert on every thing but never seems to know anything about what she is yakking about?
Can you imagine what she was like as a kid or even now in person? From the sound of it even the DU don't seem to like her very much. I actually feel sorry for her. :( She might even be a decent person but all her knowitalislum ( there is a new word for ya ) would turn people off in a flash.
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Wow, who is this bimbo? Really. I am just now becoming familiar with her postings. Self professed student of history and had no idea what any one was talking about with the riots during the Civil War? Expert on every thing but never seems to know anything about what she is yakking about?
Can you imagine what she was like as a kid or even now in person? From the sound of it even the DU don't seem to like her very much. I actually feel sorry for her. :( She might even be a decent person but all her knowitalislum ( there is a new word for ya ) would turn people off in a flash.
I doubt she will survive the next great purge.
She did well earlier this year, then crossed over to a major left elite blog.
Needless to say, that didn't last long.
She's back in full force.
Her stay at the island is questionable.
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City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level (pop. 250,000+)
(U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007)
Detroit , MI 32.5% (#1 on nadins link)
Buffalo , NY 29.9% (tied for #5 with NOLA on nadins link)
Cincinnati , OH 27.8% (#10 at nadins link)
Cleveland , OH 27.0% (#3 on nadins link)
Miami , FL 26.9% (#2 on nadins link)
St. Louis , MO 26.8% (#7 on nadins link)
El Paso , TX 26.4%
Milwaukee , WI 26.2% (#6 on nadins link)
Philadelphia , PA 25.1% (#13 on nadins link)
Newark , NJ 24.2% (#12 on nadins link)
Democrat Party Rule in these Cities
Detroit, MI hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1961
Buffalo, NY hasn’t elected one since 1954
Cincinnati, OH …since 1984
Cleveland, OH …since 1989
Miami, FL has never had a Republican mayor
St. Louis, MO ….since 1949
El Paso, TX has never had a Republican mayor
Milwaukee, WI …since 1908
Philadelphia, PA …since 1952
Newark, NJ …since 1907