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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on August 09, 2011, 07:39:00 PM
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Well, I didn't think it was going to last, the gigantic primitive staying away from politics.
But once he started politicizing his plight again, he's fair game.
The backstory is that the gigantic primitive had gotten down to 333 pounds, looking fit and trim enough to get a job. However, he's more worried about the wife Jeanette bringing home the bacon; she applied for a job with a cellular telephone place, but didn't get it. And inbetweentimes, the gigantic primitive, Jeanette, and roommate Joe moved into a new apartment.
Ege Bamyasi
Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:40 pm
Location: Las Vegas, NV
06/26 - 339
07/10 - 337 -2
07/17 - 333 -4
07/24 - 337 +4
07/31 - 343 +6
That isn't a typo, and as far as I can tell there is nothing wrong with my scale.
Two things to consider concerning this:
First, my bowels are still acting really weird. I'm in this pattern where, for as many as 3-4 days, I will only have a small BM here or there. Then, the floodgates open and I'll go as many as 6 times in a single day with huge ones. After that is done I'm left with this feeling like I've been sucker punched in the gut. Then that feeling passes and it's lather, rinse repeat. Truthfully I have always been a little bit like this, but lately it's like the process has gone quantum on me. Right now I'm about to enter the "floodgates open" phase. So, were I to weigh in tomorrow, I would probably be 340 or slightly under. In fact, I will do just that and post the results here.
The other thing is that my muscles are so badly atrophied that there just isn't anything there to really burn off the fat. When I say that I have lost about 180 lbs. doing almost no exercise at all, maybe what I should amend that to is no activity at all. Pain has limited me, and still does, but I am at least to the point now where I can walk indoors on a carpeted floor with reasonable certainty that I won't wear all the skin off my feet and end up with more ulcerations like I almost certainly would in shoes if I had any that even fit properly.
A comparison between 12 years or so ago, and now:
I was about 375 lbs. or so back in 1998, when I decided that I needed to try and get serious about getting in shape, losing weight, and eating better. So, I began walking from the trailer park along the main highway where I lived, up to the (at the time) one and only stoplight in Pahrump, NV, and back. The distance was almost exactly one mile each way. On day one, I made it down to the light and back, and just to push a little extra I walked half the distance and back for a total of 3 miles. By the time I got home, I needed to grip the rail of the little metal stairs up to the door for dear life with one hand, and brace my other hand against the wall just to be sure I could get up three little steps without falling and busting my head open. My legs were literally quivering like Jell-O, and when I got inside I went immediately to the couch and just sat there for a good 20 minutes to get my breath and stop the shaking in my legs. There was only muscle pain for a while, but my joints seemed fine.
The next day I went out and did it again, and by the end of the first week I was up to two complete trips to the light and back. Six days a week I kept doing this, and I built my distance up to an average of 6 miles per day and a maximum of about 9.5, while my weight dropped from 375 to about 302. At that point, I was forced to return to Vegas for work and the onset of major depression led to me giving up on all that hard work. Sucks, doesn't it?
Now just today. I gave it my all and walked laps around the living room and kitchen for 30 minutes. My legs had that rubbery feeling after only 20 but I put in that extra bit with the old adage, "no pain, no gain" in mind. The muscle fatigue has mostly abated now that I've been typing for a while, but my knees, hips and lower back are all screaming in pain and much of this is joint pain instead of muscle pain.
Now, I'm determined to fight to rebuild my atrophied muscles, to the point where I can function as close to normally as possible (and in the hopes that my feet will heal enough to make wearing some of my old shoes plausible again). I believe that this will be the only way I can continue losing weight at a regular clip without limiting my calorie intake to a point which could be harmful. Living with a very low income and no access to medical care has me terrified of causing myself some sort of serious injury, but my rational mind accepts the fact that there's simply nothing else I can do at this point. I'm up against a brick wall that will only come down with major effort on my part which ideally would involve the help of doctors and physical therapists. But bitching about this epic flustercluck of a medical system we have here in the US (we're now 37th in the world in overall health care and 50th in overall life expectancy, while in many counties -- mostly rural -- women have had their average life expectancy drop in recent years), while certainly cathartic, isn't going to get me where I need to be.
So, with that all having been said, I'll be pushing as hard as I think I can get away with to accomplish something every day towards a decent level of rehabilitation. Today was my first half hour, and there may be more if I can get myself moving again. And the rest of this weight is coming off whether it wants to or not.
And then this, from another member over there, pointing out something that of course the gigantic primitive had known a long time ago. The gigantic primitive's been riding on the social security disability gravy train for a long time now, first-class.
With your medical problems you are surely eligible for Social Security Disability. That would make you eligible for Medicare too after 2 years (but the 2 years are retroactive to the date SS determines you became disabled, I believe up to one year lookback).
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Now just today. I gave it my all and walked laps around the living room and kitchen for 30 minutes.
Be still my beating heart. Get out of the house, fatty.
Cut your intake to 1500-2000 calories and walk 2-4 miles a day. Drink plenty of water.
It may take you all damn day to do it, but you have to start somewhere.
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Right now I'm about to enter the "floodgates open" phase. So, were I to weigh in tomorrow, I would probably be 340 or slightly under. In fact, I will do just that and post the results here.
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With your medical problems you are surely eligible for Social Security Disability.
So...you can eat your way into a public meal ticket? A lardass pension?
Maybe Li'l Ava's otherwise wasted time in New York will qualify her for a lifetime income after all.
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Be still my beating heart. Get out of the house, fatty.
Cut your intake to 1500-2000 calories and walk 2-4 miles a day. Drink plenty of water.
It may take you all damn day to do it, but you have to start somewhere.
BINGO!!
Too ashamed to go out of the house? Then, cut back those calories big time and drink tons of water to help fill you up. PLUS, water is very good for a body.
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Yes, politics, depression, that mean disapproving glance from the mailman...surely there is some reason for your elephantine weight besides your own simple, total lack of discipline.
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From the length of that post, I swear he's the pittsters rectal tumor.
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So...you can eat your way into a public meal ticket? A lardass pension?
Maybe Li'l Ava's otherwise wasted time in New York will qualify her for a lifetime income after all.
Correct me if I'm wrong, as the social security disability gravy train isn't anything with which I've had personal experience.
It used to be that being an alcoholic got one a free ticket to ride the gravy train, right? But then that was changed sometime during the administration of the Impeached One 1993-2001, and that's no longer the case, right?
If that's no longer the case, to be consistent and fair, other "disabilities" gotten by bad life-style choices shouldn't give one a ride on the gravy train, either.
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Oh but he's depressed. That's why he had to "give up" the hard work in Las Vegas.
I don't know all the ins and outs of the disability gravy train either, Frank. I do know that there are some alcoholics who are currently on it, maybe they were grandfathered in or something. I know that there some ADHD people on it. ::)
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I gave it my all and walked laps around the living room and kitchen for 30 minutes.
Which means you never get your heart rate up to the 65-70 percent of max range needed for fat burning, and if he feels "fatigued", hey, the kitchen and fridge full of food is RIGHT THERE! Genius!
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Now, I'm determined to fight to rebuild my atrophied muscles, to the point where I can function as close to normally as possible (and in the hopes that my feet will heal enough to make wearing some of my old shoes plausible again). I believe that this will be the only way I can continue losing weight at a regular clip without limiting my calorie intake to a point which could be harmful.
Uhhh, you CANNOT out-train a piss-poor diet, period. That two mile walk? Burned 300 calories at most for someone his size. Which I'm sure he completely offset with the first two sodas he drank when he finished the walk.
It's laughable that he would think he was cutting calories back to a "dangerous level". He's already eating a diet that is at a dangerous level, or he wouldn't be that big. At his size, he'd lose weight on a 2,500 calorie diet for a good long while.
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I'm in this pattern where, for as many as 3-4 days, I will only have a small BM here or there. Then, the floodgates open and I'll go as many as 6 times in a single day with huge ones.
Is there a way that I could un-read that? :banghead:
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Is there a way that I could un-read that? :banghead:
Oh, you want to purge it from your memory, too?
:-)
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Uhhh, you CANNOT out-train a piss-poor diet, period. That two mile walk? Burned 300 calories at most for someone his size. Which I'm sure he completely offset with the first two sodas he drank when he finished the walk.
It's laughable that he would think he was cutting calories back to a "dangerous level". He's already eating a diet that is at a dangerous level, or he wouldn't be that big. At his size, he'd lose weight on a 2,500 calorie diet for a good long while.
Also, if he has gained 10 pounds over two weeks then his calorie intake is so far above where it should be that the idea of dangerously restricting his diet is ridiculous.
I realize that at his size, vigorous activity is likely to be uncomfortable, but has he considered joining a pool? Around here, YMCA memberships are scaled based on income, so I'm sure that Las Vegas must have something similar. Walking in a pool might provide the essential exercise while helping support his weight so that his joints don't have to bear all the weight. What happened to his stationary bike?
If all else fails, The Biggest Loser is casting for their fall season...
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Also, if he has gained 10 pounds over two weeks then his calorie intake is so far above where it should be that the idea of dangerously restricting his diet is ridiculous.
I realize that at his size, vigorous activity is likely to be uncomfortable, but has he considered joining a pool? Around here, YMCA memberships are scaled based on income, so I'm sure that Las Vegas must have something similar. Walking in a pool might provide the essential exercise while helping support his weight so that his joints don't have to bear all the weight. What happened to his stationary bike?
If all else fails, The Biggest Loser is casting for their fall season...
This is true. His BMR is probably pushing 3,000 calories per day. Some of the 10 was likely more water weight, but geez.
He's probably drinking sodas, not water. He is likely chronically dehydrated and is likely headed for diabetes (if he's not already there). Between the dehydration and undoubtedly a lack of fiber, he's having gastrointestinal issues (similar to Barney Frank's). At this stage in the game, he needs to cut calories, drink about a gallon of water a day, and start some type of physical activity. His liver is having to pick up the slack from his underhydrated kidneys, thus further impairing the fat metabolizing function of his liver.
He'll go for 300 calorie walks and wonder why he's still gaining weight, then he'll give up and put on another 10 pounds. He could lose 100 pounds by calorie restriction alone (which is not dangerous, as he implies) without even exercising. He could start exercising (lifting weights) somewhere around 300 pounds and it would be all downhill from there.
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07/31 - 343
I'd say he's eating over 3500 calories on some days.
STOP STUFFING YOUR FACE WITH FOOD
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Also, if he has gained 10 pounds over two weeks then his calorie intake is so far above where it should be that the idea of dangerously restricting his diet is ridiculous.
I realize that at his size, vigorous activity is likely to be uncomfortable, but has he considered joining a pool? Around here, YMCA memberships are scaled based on income, so I'm sure that Las Vegas must have something similar. Walking in a pool might provide the essential exercise while helping support his weight so that his joints don't have to bear all the weight. What happened to his stationary bike?
If all else fails, The Biggest Loser is casting for their fall season...
He's a prime candidate for gastric bypass, but even then he's got to get out and EXERCISE at some point.
And he SHOULD be able to get a better workout on either a stationary or elliptical than just walking around his living room. But lay off the freakin Gatorade!
ETA: GAINED 10 lbs in 2 weeks? Assuming that's true, that's a gain of 35,000 calories in 14 days--or almost 2500 excess calories PER DAY. Assuming that he's burning an average of 2500-3000 (extra because of his size and needs to work harder) then we're talking in some cases upwards of 6000 calories per freakin day. That's like Thanksgiving Day, EVERY DAY.
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Ok, I stopped reading at "Small BM".
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Oh, you want to purge it from your memory, too?
:-)
You two could just flush it out of your systems, too . . . :pokingpoop:
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Also, if he has gained 10 pounds over two weeks then his calorie intake is so far above where it should be that the idea of dangerously restricting his diet is ridiculous.
I realize that at his size, vigorous activity is likely to be uncomfortable, but has he considered joining a pool? Around here, YMCA memberships are scaled based on income, so I'm sure that Las Vegas must have something similar. Walking in a pool might provide the essential exercise while helping support his weight so that his joints don't have to bear all the weight.
He'd be a great swimmer. Those size 15EEEEEEE feet could propel him through the water like a fat Lloyd Bridges. It's like wearing swim fins full time. His problem is no shoes, and the pavement in Las Vegas is too hot to walk barefooted to the Y.
Seems to me he could find something from the fine folks at Rubbermaid, or Tupperware, that could serve as shoes in a pinch.
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All it takes to find anything in any size now is a basic google search. Mens 6E shoes (which I think is the width he last mentioned) brought up http://http://www.wideshoes.com/ , http://http://www.justwideshoes.com/, and http://www.thewideshoes.com/ as well as many others on the first page of results. All of them appear to instructions on how to measure your foot for the best fit. Yes, they are pricy, but one pair of shoes to allow you to go outside to lose weight would be well worth it.
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Ok, I stopped reading at "Small BM".
You're new here, madam, and so I'm sure the gigantic primitive has some shock value for you.
For the rest of us, well, there was that time he mentioned yeast infection.....after which many of us got used to it.
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Ok, I stopped reading at "Small BM".
That is too much information for him to be sharing on the internets. Flood gates? Really?
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That is too much information for him to be sharing on the internets. Flood gates? Really?
See my comment just above yours, madam.
Watching certain primitives, one gets enured so such things.
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You're new here, madam, and so I'm sure the gigantic primitive has some shock value for you.
For the rest of us, well, there was that time he mentioned yeast infection.....after which many of us got used to it.
Not to mention the inner thigh rash.
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Not to mention the inner thigh rash.
Oh yeah, the photographs of the chafing on the groin.
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I felt like crap this morning and instead of going back to bed, I got out on my bike and rode for 45 minutes. I even rode right past the Sonic! Actually, I ride by the Sonic almost every time I ride my bike and am never tempted to stop. It was hot and humid but knew it would be better than laying around. And you know what? I felt better.
I think the gigantic primitive guy needs to find himself a good bike shop where they sell special bikes for special-sized people and start out there. It would do him a world of good emotionally and physically to get out of that hellhole apartment.
The company Giant makes bikes for big people - up to 600 pounds. He has no excuse.
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I felt like crap this morning and instead of going back to bed, I got out on my bike and rode for 45 minutes. I even rode right past the Sonic! Actually, I ride by the Sonic almost every time I ride my bike and am never tempted to stop. It was hot and humid but knew it would be better than laying around. And you know what? I felt better.
I think the gigantic primitive guy needs to find himself a good bike shop where they sell special bikes for special-sized people and start out there. It would do him a world of good emotionally and physically to get out of that hellhole apartment.
The company Giant makes bikes for big people - up to 600 pounds. He has no excuse.
If I'm not mistaken about what a "recumbent" is (I really don't know what it is; I'm just guessing), the gigantic primitive had one of those, a stationary bicycle. But when he, Jeanette, and roommate Joe moved to another apartment, they had to leave it behind because it had acquired bed-bugs.
I have no idea how that happened.
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The company Giant makes bikes for big people - up to 600 pounds. He has no excuse.
marketing genius
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If I'm not mistaken about what a "recumbent" is (I really don't know what it is; I'm just guessing), the gigantic primitive had one of those, a stationary bicycle. But when he, Jeanette, and roommate Joe moved to another apartment, they had to leave it behind because it had acquired bed-bugs.
I have no idea how that happened.
A recumbent bike, in my experience, has been nothing short of a place that gathers dust and also acts as a clothes rack at times. It's a stationary bike where you sit and pedal. I found it to be totally ineffective for weight loss or as exercise. Other people may have had better luck.
My reason for riding outdoors is the fact that once I ride somewhere away from home, I have to use energy to get myself back home. Except for that one time in January when I crashed my bike and had to be taken by ambulance to the hospital. Or that time I thought I could ride to the post office and back and had to call my husband to come pick my bike and me up and take me home. But other than those two times, it's worked out better for me to ride outdoors.
:lmao:
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How does a stationary bicycle get infested with vermin?
I'm not really sure I want an answer.
A recumbent is a style of bicycle -- it's not the same thing as a stationary bike.
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How does a stationary bicycle get infested with vermin?
I'm not really sure I want an answer.
I kinda wondered about that myself. There's only one part of a stationary bike that has fibers in it and that is the seat. The rest of it is metal and plastic and I've never heard of bed bugs attaching themselves to metal or plastic.
The thought is kind of making me sick to my stomach.
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How does a stationary bicycle get infested with vermin?
I'm not really sure I want an answer.
A recumbent is a style of bicycle -- it's not the same thing as a stationary bike.
I can see the seat getting infested, but that would be easy enough to replace. The rest of it should have been unaffected.
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I've considered buying one of these, but I would have to ride it first. It just seems unnatural to do it that way.
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I kinda wondered about that myself. There's only one part of a stationary bike that has fibers in it and that is the seat. The rest of it is metal and plastic and I've never heard of bed bugs attaching themselves to metal or plastic.
The thought is kind of making me sick to my stomach.
You'll get used to it, madam.
That apartment (I think the three of them moved into another apartment in the same building or complex) must've been something to clean. Or rather, to fumigate and sanitize. In it lived three people, close quarters. Jeanette of course was always working, slaving away to support the lazy husband.
The other two, the gigantic primitive and roommate Joe, are big guys, mountains of blubber, and more or less agoraphobics, hermitical recluses. One had the impression the old apartment had few, if any windows.
I'll bet that after a couple of years, it really stank in there. Damn.
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How does a stationary bicycle get infested with vermin?
I'm not really sure I want an answer.
A recumbent is a style of bicycle -- it's not the same thing as a stationary bike.
Most gyms have recumbent stationary bikes. You pedal them in the same position as a mobile recumbent.
I much prefer the elliptical trainer, but a stationary recumbent can be an excellent gadget. The ones I've used have adjustments to allow
resistance to be set at a given level of wattage required. If you slow down, the resistance goes up, and if you go faster it reduces, so you're
always working at the same level. I'm sure there are many different controls on different brands and models. The advantage is the back support. Anyone who has a problem with lower back pain will much prefer the recumbent over a standard stationary bike.
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There are some incredibly large people at my new job. Actually "incredibly large" is an understatement. Most of them are women. One can only get around in a wheelchair, and she barely fits into it. Compared to many of them, I look like I've spent the last 10 years in Somalia.
Truthfully, it is not only mindboggling to me how they could ever get to the point they are, but it's also very sad. To see some of them walk, it has to be painful.
Unlike the GP, these people are working. They are clean, and as neat in their appearance as possible, and they show up for work on time and when scheduled. Have to hand to to the company, for their willingness to hire these people. However, it also explains why those of us who are not in management positions(in my division), are restricted to parttime only(29.5hrs/wk) and there is no opportunity to even buy into the company health insurance plan....yet dental is available.
At their weight, like the GP's, they could not eat for days, maybe weeks, and their bodies wouldn't starve. While that is obviously not a healthy way to lose weight, under any circumstaces...with water, they would survive.
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Ege Bamyasi
I'm up against a brick wall that will only come down with major effort on my part which ideally would involve the help of doctors and physical therapists.
There's a lot of things that "ideally" would be nice. For instance, I could save a lot of money if ideally my utility companies would let me use electricity and water for free. But they won't, so why even bring up the topic?
You demonstrate your stupidity when you express yourself, Ege. Try directing the limited amount of thoughts you do have on occasion towards keeping the fork away from your mouth.
(http://archive.blisstree.com/files/2008/06/930066-77389052.jpg)
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All it takes to find anything in any size now is a basic google search. ...All of them appear to instructions on how to measure your foot for the best fit. Yes, they are pricy, but one pair of shoes to allow you to go outside to lose weight would be well worth it.
I did just that, and I found this lower cost alternative. The bonus is that he can style them any way he wants; like having "BUSH'S FAULT" screen printed on the side:
http://flatbottomcanoe.com/
If he isn't so much in do-it-yourself projects, he might want to try out Old Towne, Mackinaw, or Grumman.
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All it takes to find anything in any size now is a basic google search. Mens 6E shoes (which I think is the width he last mentioned) brought up http://http://www.wideshoes.com/ , http://http://www.justwideshoes.com/, and http://www.thewideshoes.com/ as well as many others on the first page of results. All of them appear to instructions on how to measure your foot for the best fit. Yes, they are pricy, but one pair of shoes to allow you to go outside to lose weight would be well worth it.
He mentioned the "ulcerations" on his feet being a problem too.
I think you mentioned CR, that he probably has diabetes. No doubt that he does, especially since he mentioned the ulcerations. Without some medical help, they won't heal properly and if he's not careful, they will end up becoming gangrene.
I know TN has a public health plan that not only takes care of people who can't afford medical care but also the uninsurable. They also will provide gastric bypass to those who meet the criteria (one must be 100+ pounds overweight), because ultimately it's cheaper to pay for bypass surgery than to provide long term care due to obesity.
I would think NV would have some type of medical care. On the other hand, I think you can get SSI now for obesity. Much more satisfying to collect government assistance and to be able to continue to eat the Twinkies.
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He mentioned the "ulcerations" on his feet being a problem too.
I think you mentioned CR, that he probably has diabetes. No doubt that he does, especially since he mentioned the ulcerations. Without some medical help, they won't heal properly and if he's not careful, they will end up becoming gangrene.
I know TN has a public health plan that not only takes care of people who can't afford medical care but also the uninsurable. They also will provide gastric bypass to those who meet the criteria (one must be 100+ pounds overweight), because ultimately it's cheaper to pay for bypass surgery than to provide long term care due to obesity.
I would think NV would have some type of medical care. On the other hand, I think you can get SSI now for obesity. Much more satisfying to collect government assistance and to be able to continue to eat the Twinkies.
It would be one thing if this guy were truly handicapped, disabled, old, or ill with some form of degenerative disease (other than liberalism). This guy has a brain of some form or another, and he recognizes that it is a problem. He just needs to put his big girl panties on and stop stuffing his face, develop a meal plan, and go for a walk. In 8 weeks he'd be a new man. In a year he could be looking good. I hope he's lurking here, but he's probably not. With the "support" that he's getting over there (sign up for social security or disability), he'll end up costing his health care plan or medicare hundreds of thousands of avoidable dollars in diabetes and heart-related treatments. His liberal "pals" over at DU are enabling his deadly lifestyle.
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I have always struggled with my weight. I'm "big-boned.". :rofl: I am proud to say that since January I have lost 55 pounds. How did I do it? It really started with my bike accident and I just totally lost my appetite. When I got my appetite back I was so encouraged that I decided to try something different. I eat whatever I want. I just eat a few bites, including sweets. I love Coke and I still drink one per day. I'd love to give it up but I enjoy it. The biggest change was to just eat slowly and enjoy my food. I still need to lose another 50 lbs if I want to be really thin. We'll see what happens. I like to bike and swim so I will continue those activities even though my doctor told me if I fall again I will break my arm again. I'll take the chance.
I turn 50 next year so I was ready to make some changes. Would have preferred not to break my arm to do it but whatever works. :panic:
I think the gigantic primitive is trying too hard. Keeping track of calories is all well and good but eating by intuition is far more effective, at least for me. Keeping track of bowel movements is a little obsessive, if you ask me, not to mention just gross to share publicly. Ewwwww.
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I would think NV would have some type of medical care. On the other hand, I think you can get SSI now for obesity. Much more satisfying to collect government assistance and to be able to continue to eat the Twinkies.
So, the LVL would need to make a decision between:
a) getting a "disability" check from the taxpayers every month, like clockwork, while continuing to gorge himself on foodstamp chow, feeding at a trough like a Hampshire hog and living a life of leisure, or
b) signing up for medical care including possibly the pain of gastric bypass, a rigid and restricted diet along with exhausting exerecise and physical therapy, leading to enormous weight loss and the curtailment of his "disability" payments. His condition would then require that he find employment and take responsiblity for his own livelihood.
I wonder how long the Leviathan will have to study those options before making a choice.
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The future for Mr Big:
480 lb Woman's Flesh Merged with Fabric of Sofa
http://www.wftv.com/news/3643877/detail.html
I ain't the ghost of Christmas Past: But if you don't change your ways you will die too.
And Obama's army doesn't have uniforms in your size.
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So, the LVL would need to make a decision between:
a) getting a "disability" check from the taxpayers every month, like clockwork, while continuing to gorge himself on foodstamp chow, feeding at a trough like a Hampshire hog and living a life of leisure, or
b) signing up for medical care including possibly the pain of gastric bypass, a rigid and restricted diet along with exhausting exerecise and physical therapy, leading to enormous weight loss and the curtailment of his "disability" payments. His condition would then require that he find employment and take responsiblity for his own livelihood.
I wonder how long the Leviathan will have to study those options before making a choice.
Right.
And that's one good way to get started on saving the social security program, or at least prolonging its life.
No ride on the disability gravy train for disabilities gotten through bad life-style choices.
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The future for Mr Big:
480 lb Woman's Flesh Merged with Fabric of Sofa
http://www.wftv.com/news/3643877/detail.html
I ain't the ghost of Christmas Past: But if you don't change your ways you will die too.
And Obama's army doesn't have uniforms in your size.
Ewwwwwwwwwwwww!
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The future for Mr Big:
480 lb Woman's Flesh Merged with Fabric of Sofa
stevenumbers would do her.
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stevenumbers would do her.
And, the added bonus of the surface to do her on is just gravy.
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You'll get used to it, madam.
That apartment (I think the three of them moved into another apartment in the same building or complex) must've been something to clean. Or rather, to fumigate and sanitize. In it lived three people, close quarters. Jeanette of course was always working, slaving away to support the lazy husband.
The other two, the gigantic primitive and roommate Joe, are big guys, mountains of blubber, and more or less agoraphobics, hermitical recluses. One had the impression the old apartment had few, if any windows.
I'll bet that after a couple of years, it really stank in there. Damn.
That's about the impression I got. Seems to me recluses generally dont even open windows either so stuffy, stinky air sounds about right. Don't get it. I get to work from home now a good part of the week. Most days, I open the window by me until the sun comes over...it's very nice to have the fresh air and I'll take my breaks on my back porch with a cup of coffee and the sun streaming on my face. ON a day like today where it was 50 something to start, it probably will be open the majority of the day. I love the solitude of a quiet home to myself some days, but closing oneself off entirely to wallow in filth==well it's no wonder he is depressed. I have a feeling if he'd get moving, get working, and throw open those windows every so often and let the light in, the world for him would be a happier and more joyful place.
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Oh yeah, the photographs of the chafing on the groin.
Yikes - truly yikes.
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Yikes - truly yikes.
You want the link, sir?
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You want the link, sir?
I doubt that my stomach could take it...just bemused at what some people consider appropriate fodder for public web-sites.
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There's no way this person couldn't go to a free clinic if he doesn't have the money, and if he has ulcers on his feet? as others said, he could be diabetic and they would run a glucose test on him, if that came back positive then they would do an extended glucose test done over several hours. He may have lost weight with this diet that he's on, but if he's diabetic? it seems a lot of foods he's been eating on this diet can have an effect on his sugar. things like rice and potatoes need to be eaten in small amounts if someone is diabetic. I don't want to call these McDougall people kooks, I don't know enough about them, but it seems to me they don't have a variety of foods to take in.
I just googled this diet and it's high in carbs, not good for diabetics, and wiki says this:
McDougall's philosophy is controversial and Quackwatch lists his newsletter as one of the non-recommended ones that "promote misinformation, espouse unscientific theories, contain unsubstantiated advice, are insufficiently skeptical, and/or fail to distinguish between reliable and unreliable sources of advice."
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Seems that all the people with a weight problem are sucking the government tit....solution: kill the old sow and make bacon.
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You want the link, sir?
I imagine anyone who wants to see that could get an equally disturbing visual by searching for images of whalers flensing their quarry.
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I imagine anyone who wants to see that could get an equally disturbing visual by searching for images of whalers flensing their quarry.
I know, but it was a new member who had prompted my suggestion for the link, as I wanted to get him initiated by startling him. This sort of initiation makes adjusting to the primitives a lot easier.
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That's true, Ballygrl; what I remember about that diet of his was: A big bowl of boiled potatoes, a big bowl of rice, ladeled over with plainish tomato sauce. Nothing but carbs, which converts to sugar. Non-healing sores are extremely worrisome.
Someone should sign up at McDougalls where he posts, and provide the helpful links that Celtic Rose found. If he's got shoes, he can get out and move.
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I just googled this diet and it's high in carbs, not good for diabetics, and wiki says this:
Yeah, he needs a high protein, moderate fats and carbs diet. And some weight lifting. Lots of exercises he could do without getting out of his Hoveround®.
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Limit your in take around 1800 cals.
Drop the "diet" coke and just drink unsweetened ice tea or water. Lots of water. No beer! Watch how much juice you drink. Those calories count as food too.
Lean meats
No carbs
More veggies, god knows you needs the fiber. And DONT drop a pound of bacon fat in the green beans and put a whole bottle of ranch on your salad.
Take supplements to make up for what is missing in your diet until you learn how to make sensable meals that taste good at home. Invest in a good cook book for weight loss.
NO FAST FOOD!
Eat on a regular schdual. You can eat like 4 times a day and make sure your over all cal count is around 1800 if you plan it out and read the labels. No snacks before bed!
If you must have something sweet after dinner make it fruit ( NOT A TON OF FRUIT, and raw, not cups or cocktails ) or get a bag of diabetic candy and just have ONE piece. Learn to savor food. Sugar free jello might be ok if you don't put whipped cream on it.
Walk where ever and when ever you can. Don't use the electric cart at the store and go in with a list and stick to that list. ( this will save you money too.)
Swim at the Y. That is the best thing you can do for your muscles and joints. If you are broke they will work with you. Hell they let me join for free so you have no excuse not to join.
Avoid being around people who have the same bad eating habits as you. That is really hard.
Six months of that and you will look and feel like a brand new person and might able to start a more ambitious exercise program. It is not fast but it really is that simple.
Now if you will excuse me. The Y opens at 5:30 am and I and plan of getting my 5'11' 187 lb azz to the weight room in a few minutes. O-)
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That's about the impression I got. Seems to me recluses generally dont even open windows either so stuffy, stinky air sounds about right. Don't get it. I get to work from home now a good part of the week. Most days, I open the window by me until the sun comes over...it's very nice to have the fresh air and I'll take my breaks on my back porch with a cup of coffee and the sun streaming on my face. ON a day like today where it was 50 something to start, it probably will be open the majority of the day. I love the solitude of a quiet home to myself some days, but closing oneself off entirely to wallow in filth==well it's no wonder he is depressed. I have a feeling if he'd get moving, get working, and throw open those windows every so often and let the light in, the world for him would be a happier and more joyful place.
I do, too, but if he started feeling happier and better, and the world became a more joyful place, he wouldn't be a DUmmie.
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I do, too, but if he started feeling happier and better, and the world became a more joyful place, he wouldn't be a DUmmie.
There is that! :-)