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Title: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on August 09, 2011, 09:38:14 AM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904140604576495932704234052.html?mod=opinion_newsreel (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904140604576495932704234052.html?mod=opinion_newsreel)
A good opinion piece and basically lays out what we all knew already. There needs to be more of these in other papers.


Selected snips.
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...When it comes to piloting, Barack Obama seems to think he's the political equivalent of Charles Lindbergh, Chuck Yeager and—in a "Fly Me to the Moon" sort of way—Nat King Cole rolled into one. "I think I'm a better speech writer than my speech writers," he reportedly told an aide in 2008. "I know more about policies on any particular issue than my policy directors. And I'll tell you right now that I'm . . . a better political director than my political director."

On another occasion—at the 2004 Democratic convention—Mr. Obama explained to a Chicago Tribune reporter that "I'm LeBron, baby. I can play at this level. I got game."...

Even when he's criticized, his failures are usually chalked up to his supposed brilliance. Liberals say he's too cerebral for the Beltway rough-and-tumble; conservatives often seem to think his blunders, foreign and domestic, are all part of a cunning scheme to turn the U.S. into a combination of Finland, Cuba and Saudi Arabia.

I don't buy it. I just think the president isn't very bright...

But it takes actual smarts to understand that glibness and self-belief are not sufficient proof of genuine intelligence. Stupid is as stupid does, said the great philosopher Forrest Gump. The presidency of Barack Obama is a case study in stupid does.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: Eupher on August 09, 2011, 09:48:49 AM
I've always maintained that Lord Zero is about as subtle as a train wreck.

He has no couth, no sense of direction (except in the wrong direction), no sense of propriety, no sense of humility.

In short, he is a cad hardly worth the time to write this short little screed.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: CG6468 on August 09, 2011, 09:54:42 AM
He's as smart as a pile of rocks.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: delilahmused on August 09, 2011, 11:37:16 AM
I'm still stunned the country allowed itself to be duped like that. How could anyone think he could do a good job or deliver on his pie in the sky promises? And he had NO experience. Sarah Palin started out on the PTA and worked her way up to Governor and the meme was she didn't have any experience. He's an absolute embarrassment.

Cindie
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: RightCoast on August 09, 2011, 11:44:34 AM
He is an idiot surrounded by people that are smart, and that hate America to their core.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 09, 2011, 11:49:00 AM
He is an idiot surrounded by people that are smart, and that hate America to their core.

Bingo.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: WinOne4TheGipper on August 09, 2011, 11:55:19 AM
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904140604576495932704234052.html?mod=opinion_newsreel (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904140604576495932704234052.html?mod=opinion_newsreel)
A good opinion piece and basically lays out what we all knew already. There needs to be more of these in other papers.


Selected snips.

In order to understand this article, I'm pretty sure the One will need to read it in Austrian.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on August 09, 2011, 12:00:36 PM
He is an idiot surrounded by people that are smart, and that hate America to their core.
The GOP needs to get him and Paul Ryan in the same room with the press there to debate economic policy. Ryan would totally own him and make him look like the empty suit he is. We saw that at the health care meetings that were televised.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: JohnnyReb on August 09, 2011, 12:28:00 PM
Smart?...NO!...Well programed to destroy capitalist USA?...Yes.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: ConservativeMobster on August 09, 2011, 12:40:00 PM
He's smart enough to act dumb when it suits.  He isn't stupid, he knows exactly what he's doing as he destroys our America.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: Gina on August 09, 2011, 01:36:36 PM
He learns well.  Dogs learn well too but you don't give them the keys to your car.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: debk on August 09, 2011, 01:59:13 PM
He was smart enough to present a persona to the people to get enough votes to be elected president.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: md11hydmec on August 10, 2011, 09:11:22 AM
IMO I think lord 0 won because some on the right were so disgusted with who was running on the right that they sat out.   I don't think Obama thought he stood a chance of winning.  On that note, I don't think McCain thought he stood a chance of winning either.  The biggest problem with the Wun is the fact that he is an idiot and knows it. He tried to cover it up but the whole country, hell, the whole world knows it and it gets worse every day.  He's the joke of the world.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 10, 2011, 09:39:30 AM
Honestly, he is not an intellectually stupid man (Nor is he an intellectual, his grades would have been widely-publicized if they even remotely supported that claim).  Terribly and unshakably wrong in his political and economic beliefs, but not actually stupid in an intellectual capacity sort of way. 

However, most of his adult life he has been flattered and groomed as a cat's-paw by people much smarter than he is to present himself as such, and has been deceived his whole life about his own value and abilities by affirmative action in education.  He therefore vastly overestimates his own intelligence, and honestly believes he deserves the flattery and baseless 'achievements' in his education.  This unjustified self-confidence convinces the willing believer and the gullible that there is really something going on in that bony head that would resemble a cogent plan, rather than the aimless ricochets from one crisis to another that the astute observer sees. 

All the victims of the deception really need to do to lift the veil of illusion is to seriously ask themselves "How did that laser-like focus on jobs work out?"
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: NHSparky on August 10, 2011, 09:56:50 AM
Bottom line, he might be educated and even smart, but isn't all that INTELLIGENT.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: CG6468 on August 10, 2011, 10:04:43 AM
Bottom line, he might be educated and even smart, but isn't all that INTELLIGENT.

Nor does he have any common sense, although he is as common as they come.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: NHSparky on August 10, 2011, 10:11:45 AM
I would suggest that 1-having, 2-using, common sense is in fact a measure of one's "intelligence".  Remember, certain cultures place greater value on certain aspects.  I might be book smart and able to run a nuclear power plant, but when it comes to basic life skills like farming, hunting, or fishing, I may be considered dumber than a bag of hammers.

Bottom line, Obama might be educated in certain areas, but in diplomacy, tact, leadership, and pretty much any skill or quality outside campaigning, he's screwed.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: debk on August 10, 2011, 03:15:17 PM
I would suggest that 1-having, 2-using, common sense is in fact a measure of one's "intelligence".  Remember, certain cultures place greater value on certain aspects.  I might be book smart and able to run a nuclear power plant, but when it comes to basic life skills like farming, hunting, or fishing, I may be considered dumber than a bag of hammers.

Bottom line, Obama might be educated in certain areas, but in diplomacy, tact, leadership, and pretty much any skill or quality outside campaigning, he's screwed.

Exactly.

Some very intelligent people are, in a sense, very one dimensional. If something is outside of their area of expertise, they can't find their way out of a paper bag...UNLESS, they either have a desire to learn to read directions or they also have some common sense, to be used at the very least to ask for help to get out of the bag. 

In your case, Sparky, as evidenced on this board, you are not only very knowledgeable in many things, you also have seem to have a great deal of common sense. Your examples of farming, hunting and fishing are not necessarily applicable because you either have not had the experience, the opportunity, or the desire to learn about them. You also seem to be willing to, and have the desire to, learn other about things.

Contrasted with Obama, he may have a high IQ( I don't know if one has ever been reported), which would put him into the intelligent category so to speak, but he appears to not have much common sense. I base this on his apparent unwillingness to learn, or acknowledge that he is in over his head. I recognize that because he is president, he's not going to publicly admit to not understanding or not knowing what to do in certain situations. But if he had any common sense, he would at least surround himself with people who DO know what should be done.

Obama, like many intelligent one-dimensional people, is convinced he is the smartest individual around and he doesn't need to learn, because he already knows everything. That characteristic, makes him stupid.

I'm sure everyone here, has met someone at some point in their lives, who thinks they are the greatest thing since sliced bread. They don't have to learn from anyone else because they not already know everything, they know it better than anyone else.

Obama is one of those people.

The other characteristic that Obama has which makes him even more dangerous, is is over-abundance of self-confidence. The confidence combined with the know-everything attitude is what got him elected. Take those dominant characteristics,  along with his age and his general persona - looks, physical fitness, age - add in the husband/father with perceived "hard-working wife" rather than a wealthy socialite and two cute young daughters, he appealed to the younger voters more than any other prior candidate or elected president in a long, long time. Perhaps even more so than Clinton, simply because Obama, being "black" ( ::) ) supposedly brought more black voters to the polls than ever before.

It's those characteristics, that may get him reelected. Which is really scary.

The GOP is going to have to find someone equally charismatic to run, and pray to God, someone who is not only intelligent but with common sense and some worthwhile experience, or despite his incompetence, Obama will get reelected.

If the GOP candidate is another old fart politician, worthy experience or not, we're screwed. So far, we aren't doing so good since Romney is, according to the polls, the front leading candidate. He comes across like a used car salesman....slicked back hair, phony smile, and a somewhat shaky track record.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: Bodadh on August 12, 2011, 06:35:19 AM
IMO I think lord 0 won because some on the right were so disgusted with who was running on the right that they sat out.   I don't think Obama thought he stood a chance of winning.  On that note, I don't think McCain thought he stood a chance of winning either.  The biggest problem with the Wun is the fact that he is an idiot and knows it. He tried to cover it up but the whole country, hell, the whole world knows it and it gets worse every day.  He's the joke of the world.

Oh no no, he really DOES think he is that smart. He was raised and coddled by people who thought they were brilliant them selves and flattered him all his life into thinking he was special too. I said it before and I will say it again. He is not all that bright ( not stupid mind you ) and actually pretty lazy.

If he grew up in the real world he would been a so so high school teacher or middle management at a car dealership or insurance company. Comfortable but not setting the world on fire.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: CG6468 on August 12, 2011, 07:37:36 AM
Bottom line, Obama might be educated in certain areas, but in diplomacy, tact, leadership, and pretty much any skill or quality outside campaigning, he's screwed.

Those attributes are not taught; they occur naturally.
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on August 12, 2011, 08:52:27 AM
Oh no no, he really DOES think he is that smart. He was raised and coddled by people who thought they were brilliant them selves and flattered him all his life into thinking he was special too. I said it before and I will say it again. He is not all that bright ( not stupid mind you ) and actually pretty lazy.

If he grew up in the real world he would been a so so high school teacher or middle management at a car dealership or insurance company. Comfortable but not setting the world on fire.

 :werd:
Title: Re: WSJ: Is Obama Smart?
Post by: namvet on August 12, 2011, 10:57:15 AM
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