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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on April 25, 2008, 12:13:02 PM
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The collective subconscious of the primitives in action; the primitives have no idea what's coming, but the primitives sense something's coming down, that it's not going to be good for the primitives.
Having lesser-developed cerebral capacities, the primitives of course can't articulate what it is, that's coming down; all they know is that something's coming down, and it won't be good for the primitives.
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:25 PM
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Has anyone else been squirreling away food this last yr?
I have a good sized emergency kit put away, in case of earthquake, and another smaller one in my car in case I'm too far away to walk home easily. MrUP bought a 25 lb sack of rice to add to the stock last week since he's been feeling the food/money crunch.
I've been warning people about food prices going up for the last yr, looking ahead at gas prices, and telling those who say "just drive less" that more importantly it's going to impact food supplies. People panicking aren't going to help things, but gradually adding bits here and there seem to be the way to go.
Here is an interesting website, how long can you survive in your home?
http://www.oneplusyou.com/q/v/trapped
I dunno. There's six 18-pound bags of Friskie's dried cat food in the garage.
Not that franksolich is a hoarder, but the first winter franksolich lived out here, there was a very large snowfall, and no dried cat-food for the cats. It was a bitch, spending four hours to get eight miles to get cat-food, but one lives and learns. One accepts, adapts, and moves on.
The green commode primitive:
WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:26 PM
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1. Oatmeal, Rice, Tuna, Canned Tomatos, Beans...
I have abut two months worth of food if things go rotten.
The snobbish primitive:
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:29 PM
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3. I started after 9/11 when got really paranoid about our gvt thinking of what they might pull. So I got my earthquake kit put together. Then I went to gulf coast after Katrina, came home and made car kit. Growing up with a full pantry, makes me feel more like my mom all the time, not just in the mirror but in the pantry too.
lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:29 PM
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2. I kinda always do...
...not for any emergency - it's just that my husband used to live in Canada and he taught me you never just buy one of anything. With gas prices and food prices the way they are now - I'm really glad he did.
Now wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
According to the American Nana primitive, and the fat girl in Canada, everything's peachy-keen up there, what with their free medical care.
They have shortages up there, in Canada?
ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:29 PM
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4. I've been stocking up on rice, beans, oil and soon coffee. I always keep a month's food sacked away, but I'm going to increase my stocks (slowly) because of what's going down these days.
Aha. Further proof the primitives know something's coming down.
madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-24-08 12:12 AM
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28. I bought ammo
Guaranteed I can get food.
varelse Donating Member (510 posts) Thu Apr-24-08 08:57 AM
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33. Or lead poisoning
some of us might shoot back.
fiziwig (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:30 PM
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5. I shop once a month or less and buy storables like rice, dry beans, pasta, etc., in bulk from a restaurant supply place, and I usually have at least a year's supply of everything (except fresh veggies) just laying around. Half of the year I get my fruits and veggies from my own gardens (1/2 acre), orchard (28 trees, apple, pear, plum, cherry), and tiny little vineyard (1/4 acre).
NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:30 PM
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6. nothing serious yet, but will be reviewing my plans and supplies this weekend and will be stocking up two different locations for "hurricane season". I am afraid of what would happen if a storm were to hit an oil platform.
aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:30 PM
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8. For awhile now I've been stocking up on canned goods but I found out that they go bad after a couple of years, things like canned corn, green beans and the like. They just start corroding and leaking through the bottom and the air gets to it. I guess dry goods are definitely the way to go for any long term situations.
Canned vegetables suck. franksolich wouldn't touch a canned vegetable any more than franksolich would touch a primitive.
Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:33 PM
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10. Yep.... but no one knows how long it will take for the food shortages to subside once started...
Once that distribution network slows (or heaven forbid, shuts down) it will take a long time for it to come back to what we consider normal.
theboss (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:34 PM
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12. I follow the "grocery game" website
Shopping for me has become a kind of puzzle that I really like. And I buy insane amounts of top-quality foor for ridicuoulsy low prices. I think my record was $325 worth of groceries for $165. And this included yellow fin tuna filets and lobster tails and stuff.
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:55 PM
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18. Yes, having room to stock what is on special is a good idea.
It can take a while to get stock built up, but being able to buy and store what's on special can really help. Want to have me over for dinner (lobster, yum)?
The snobbish primitive forgets; there's a primitive out there with a gun.
What if the primitive with a gun hadn't stocked up?
What happens to the snobbish primitive's inventory, then?
After all, the primitives, unlike decent and civilized people, aren't squeamish about taking things not their own.
Raine1967 (63 posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:35 PM
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13. I am going back to canning veggies and fruits.
We are also stocking up on the Rice, in our area it is becoming scarce...
We are actually investing in a vacuum packing machine for the meat. We found a good priced source, and buy it in bulk.
Next up.... with the (b)rie-bate that bush is giving us, we are buying a scooter. Things are getting out of hand, and we want to get on the best side of things we can. Not panicking, just planning the best we can.
Buy what you can, and either can or freeze it for the future. The meat can last a bit in the freezer, the vacuum sealers are a godsend.
AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:36 PM
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14. WTF?
Pets (additional food source)
NO WAY IN HELL!
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:56 PM
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19. oh dear, I totally misread that part, thought they meant food FOR pets.
No way will I eat my smelly old dog or cats.
AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-25-08 11:08 AM
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35. I hope that's what they meant, but it's up for different interpretations.
I hope they meant you could eat their pet food, I'm sure they wouldn't mind sharing it with you. But I would never, ever, be able to use my pets as a food source. My pets are my family.
Oh my. Another primitive who "relates" better to animals than to other people.
The mumbo-jumbo primitive must have been kicked out of the house, by the wife or the parents:
Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:38 PM
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15. I rent a 10 by 10 foot room
And am allotted precious little pantry space in my current living situation.
I'd love to start stockpiling some food stuffs, but logistically it just doesn't work.
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:44 PM
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17. I always keep a supply of staples on hand which means various varieties of beans and grains. I also have ten pounds of flour because Wild Oats had a sale on King Arthur bread flour. I have powdered whole eggs, egg whites, and buttermilk plus a quart of maple syrup that generally lasts me a year or so.
In other words, I just have the same stuff kicking around that I always do, plus an extra five pounds of flour.
My staple stash came in handy when I was poor and there was always month left over at the end of the money.
fight4my3sons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-23-08 06:28 PM
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22. we try to put some things away like cereal, rice, beans, canned stuff, but usually we barely make it to the next pay check or fs date. Kids seem to go through food quickly!
Somewhere in here, Doug's ex-wife makes a comment, but because it's a really stupid comment, it's not worth the depreciation, the wear-and-tear, on the keyboard to copy-and-paste it.
frickaline (39 posts) Thu Apr-24-08 08:53 AM
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31. keeping a stock is fine but stocking additionally right now is irresponsible
We are creating a crisis out of nothing more than baseless panic. All source keep saying that there is plenty of food supply. Its a good idea to always keep a stock of food to thwart any crisis you might encounter but to make a "run" on rice right now is only making a bad situation worse for people. There is no reason for panic, only prudence.
El Pinko (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-24-08 09:29 AM
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34. I have been hoarding All-Bran.
I eat it for breakfast every day, and it keeps, so when my neighborhood supermarket hat it for $2.99/box (it's usually about 3.60, and over $4 at other stores), so I bought a total of about 20 boxes. Still working on'em.
I would have bought a lot anyway, but I bought more having heard that wheat products would be going up.
Aha, just as I suspected.
The el finko primitive, who doesn't like small town people, is afflicted with some sort of bowel ailment, and trying desperately to treat it.
Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-25-08 11:22 AM
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36. I have friends outside of DU that are squirreling away food and ammo and working on their vegetable gardens. One is in his early sixties and he swears it will get worse. He is good at reading the economic tea leaves and other subtle changes, like the subprime market three years ago, media consolidation,and what would happen without the fairness doctrine. I swear, this guy can look 20 years into the future.
The above isn't the whole bonfire, but it's most of it, the important circa 90% of it.
Something's coming down, and the primitives know it, subconsciously.
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I have always kept a "stock" of food, I suppose as well as all other household goods.
I too will be more or less hoarding and really stocking up on the staples if Obama gets elected. Maybe that is what this DUmbass is really subconsciously preparing for.
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I have always kept a "stock" of food, I suppose as well as all other household goods.
I too will be more or less hoarding and really stocking up on the staples if Obama gets elected. Maybe that is what this DUmbass is really subconsciously preparing for.
You know, it's interesting, what the primitives don't know about socialism.
Under socialism, hoarding food has been a capital offense.
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I knew a business owner back in the 1980's whose wife was convinced by her democrat friends that all hell was about to break loose. It was The Reagan Panic, as I call it. They hoarded a bunch of stuff including mirrors (?). They were convinced the silver backing on mirrors would be valuable when nothing else was (?).
My point is, all their stored foodstuff ruined or got infested with pests and the mirrors got dusty.
I told the women who were hoarding that it was a ridiculous thing to do. Even if their worst fears did come true, those without were not going to peacefully stand by and watch those who have deny the hungry. Did they want to get their throat cut over a five-gallon can of sugar?
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I fully expect the world market supply of Cheeto's to decline drastically when next month's SSI checks roll out.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-24-08 12:12 AM
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28. I bought ammo
Guaranteed I can get food.
varelse Donating Member (510 posts) Thu Apr-24-08 08:57 AM
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33. Or lead poisoning
some of us might shoot back.
:rotf: even though we know DUmmies don't have guns.
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I have always kept a "stock" of food, I suppose as well as all other household goods.
I too will be more or less hoarding and really stocking up on the staples if Obama gets elected. Maybe that is what this DUmbass is really subconsciously preparing for.
Us who live in Earthquake country keep food and water to last about a month, and LOTS of batteries, flashlights, etc. I am sure the people in Hurricane areas do the same...
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I knew a business owner back in the 1980's whose wife was convinced by her democrat friends that all hell was about to break loose. It was The Reagan Panic, as I call it. They hoarded a bunch of stuff including mirrors (?). They were convinced the silver backing on mirrors would be valuable when nothing else was (?).
My point is, all their stored foodstuff ruined or got infested with pests and the mirrors got dusty.
I told the women who were hoarding that it was a ridiculous thing to do. Even if their worst fears did come true, those without were not going to peacefully stand by and watch those who have deny the hungry. Did they want to get their throat cut over a five-gallon can of sugar?
Hoarding mirrors is a bad reflection on one's mindset. I just can't see doing something like this. The image of a bunch of dusty mirrors piled up on one's garage is quite amusing.
<insert groan here>
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I knew a business owner back in the 1980's whose wife was convinced by her democrat friends that all hell was about to break loose. It was The Reagan Panic, as I call it. They hoarded a bunch of stuff including mirrors (?). They were convinced the silver backing on mirrors would be valuable when nothing else was (?).
My point is, all their stored foodstuff ruined or got infested with pests and the mirrors got dusty.
I told the women who were hoarding that it was a ridiculous thing to do. Even if their worst fears did come true, those without were not going to peacefully stand by and watch those who have deny the hungry. Did they want to get their throat cut over a five-gallon can of sugar?
Hoarding mirrors is a bad reflection on one's mindset. I just can't see doing something like this. The image of a bunch of dusty mirrors piled up on one's garage is quite amusing.
<insert groan here>
Well, at least you don't project everything backwards.
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Keeping a good stock of food is a smart thing to do - Its almost the Conservative thing to do.. Stocking up a 50's style bomb shelter with several months worth is unnecessary panic and a waste of cash once those foods become inedible over time.
Ever make the mistake of eating a can of veggies that was in the pantry alot longer than you have realized ? I have. Its not a good experience. Im sure I have gotten my recommended yearly allowance of aluminum in my diet after just a spoonfull. Multiply that by 1000 for the crazy food hording DUmmies.
This is why I hate Date-codes.. But that is a rant for another time.
Remember DUers.. like the song says..
There was a turtle by the name of Bert
and Bert the turtle was very alert;
when danger threatened him he never got hurt
he knew just what to do...
He ducked!
And covered!
Ducked!
And covered!
He did what we all must learn to do
You , And you , And you , And you!'
Duck, and cover!'
Duck and Cover video link (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=811421085304596290&q=&hl=en)
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Just wait until it really gets bad. This may go down in history as...........
black friday and "THE GREAT CHEETOS SHORTAGE OF 2008" :-)
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Why should *I* need to hoard stuff, when I can easily "tax" a DUmmie for it.
After all :
Not Hoarding things is MY lifetsyle choice, and the DUmmies MUST support that choice (and share their stuff with me), no matter how wrong or immoral it is ; for the simple reason that it is my *choice* , , , RIGHT ??
*snicker*
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Frank, you are definitely an astute observer of the human condition...I am in awe.
Cindie
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Why should *I* need to hoard stuff, when I can easily "tax" a DUmmie for it.
After all :
Not Hoarding things is MY lifetsyle choice, and the DUmmies MUST support that choice (and share their stuff with me), no matter how wrong or immoral it is ; for the simple reason that it is my *choice* , , , RIGHT ??
*snicker*
Especially if you make your argument to said DUmb**** with a handgun or shotgun!
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Don't they listen to Ted Turner? They're supposed to turn to cannibalism.
What's the point of having liberal leadership if they aren't going to listen?
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Frank, you are definitely an astute observer of the human condition...I am in awe.
Cindie
Hell Cindy. I've known that for 3 years. :-)
Raine1967 (63 posts) Wed Apr-23-08 05:35 PM
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13. I am going back to canning veggies and fruits.
We are also stocking up on the Rice, in our area it is becoming scarce...
We are actually investing in a vacuum packing machine for the meat. We found a good priced source, and buy it in bulk.
Next up.... with the (b)rie-bate that bush is giving us, we are buying a scooter. Things are getting out of hand, and we want to get on the best side of things we can. Not panicking, just planning the best we can.
Buy what you can, and either can or freeze it for the future. The meat can last a bit in the freezer, the vacuum sealers are a godsend.
for cryin' out loud! Me and mine have been doing this for at least 50 years!!!!!!!! :banghead:
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You know I meant to check the rice supply at the grocery store last week, but I forgot.
I'll be stopping at the store tomorrow (I need some kitty food anyways) so I'm going to check. I can use another couple of bags of rice. (I buy medium grain and they only sell it in the smaller 2 lb bags).
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Good grief!
Ya know for the first coupla years, I'll just step out back and bag a turkey, or a grouse , or a deer, or a moose, or a bear, or, fish in my pond for catfish, bass, perch, or maybe an occasional trout that managed to survive through the winter.
Hell if that don't work, I'll drive for about 20 minutes and bag an elk or a bison! Or I could just drop the boat into the lake and pick up a mackinaw to the tune of 30 pounds to hold me over for a coupla days.
These morons are going to starve to death. If I can help them, I'm going to shove them in that direction! :-)
Hell, last year, we bagged 5 deer and 2 elk, and I lost count on the turkeys , ducks and geese. Our biggest problem would be keepin' the freezers operating.