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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on August 02, 2011, 08:59:27 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1645736
Oh my.
Ms. Ed, the unappellated eohippus, the High Priestess of Moloch to the primitives.
First cabbage, and now this.
Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-02-11 04:34 PM
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Nine Illnesses in Texas Linked to Ground Turkey
No recall yet. No doubt, someone has fluffed up someone's campaign coffers.
http://www.kutnews.org/post/nine-illnesses-texas-linked...
The federal government has issued a public health alert, warning people about eating ground turkey. The Food Safety and Inspection Service has not named specific brands, but says it is monitoring an outbreak of Salmonella Heidelberg that appears to be linked to consumption of the meat.
Seventy-seven illnesses, including one death, have been reported in 26 states. But no recall has been issued.
"FSIS has not linked these illnesses to a particular brand, product or establishment, and therefore has not issued a recall," an unnamed spokesman told MSNBC.com.
FSIS says you should always cook your turkey to an internal temperature of 165 Fahrenheit, and always reheat leftovers to the same temperature.
patrice (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-02-11 04:43 PM
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1. I'm also hearing concerning stuff about Blue Buffalo pet food, there's something goin' on with that meat-resource stream. Vets are honestly becoming alarmed about quality control. I was told to even just go back to one of the cheaper older, more well established, brands, which I found surprising since she didn't try to get us onto the OTHER expensive stuff like Science Diet. She just wanted my not-quite-senior-yet collie OFF of BB. This isn't the first time pet owners in my family have heard this sort of thing.
Something going on with these meat sources & production. Probably not enough inspection.
Well now, the primitives are always squawking about high grocery prices.
One of the elements in high grocery prices is the cost of regulation and inspection.
One wonders if the primitives ever think about that.
MineralMan (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-02-11 04:45 PM
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2. Cook all ground meat thoroughly.
Always. Shit happens without warning.
For once, the mineral oil salesman is right.
Cook all ground meat thoroughly.
Smash those hamburgers down flat on the grill, so as to drain all the grease and other harmful things out.
Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-02-11 04:50 PM
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3. Good advice...but, infected meat and poulty can be harmful to people that are fragile
children, the chronically ill, and the elderly.
They need to tell us which company has infected meat so that we can not buy the meat. Not just warn us to cook it properly.
Actually, just about every single meat-producing company seems to have had infected meat at one time or another; probably Ms. Ed should go vegetarian, then.
MineralMan (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-02-11 04:52 PM
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4. Such people should avoid ground meat entirely, then, unless they grind it themselves from whole cuts just before cooking.
It will never be possible to ensure that all commercial ground meat is free from such bacterial contamination. Never. If you are at risk, even from properly-cooked ground meat, you should not consume any ground meat that is not freshly ground. It is that simple.
As much as it pains me to admit it, the mineral oil salesman is right the second time in a row.
Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-02-11 04:56 PM
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5. No problem. I will tell the old lady down the street that gets $10 in food stamps a month that she only needs to buy steaks and roasts because not only does the federal government want to take away her social security and medicare, they actively want to kill her by not telling her which campaign contributor is selling her tainted products and the party of folks who used to give a shit about her are telling her not to eat what she can afford.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sure.
Ten bucks a month in food stamps.
Just like $24,000 a year for a registered nurse.
Yeah, sure.
MineralMan (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-02-11 05:03 PM
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6. Of the millions of tons of ground meats sold in the United States, we have remarkably few instances of disease from infected food. Such instances do occur, however, from time to time, and will occur, regardless of precautions. Infection can occur at any of the many points where meat is handled or processed, and no inspection program can follow every pound of meat.
Your old lady down the street takes a risk. So does the wealthy CEO who eats commercial ground meat in his tacos. Odds are that both will escape being harmed, given the low actual statistical incidence of ground meat borne illness. Beyond my suggestion, I have nothing else to offer. I'm not apologizing for anyone. I'm making a suggestion based on the reality of meat processing at this time in this country. It's up to the individual consumer whether he or she wants to take the risk.
Ooops, that's 3-for-3 for the mineral oil salesman.
One wonders what's going on inside of his head.
Stargazer99 (913 posts) Tue Aug-02-11 06:14 PM
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7. Are you a conservative?
What the hell makes you think that tainted meat would be sold to the upper classes along with the lower classes? I got a bridge for you to buy cheap.
Moosepoop (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-02-11 06:42 PM
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8. Are you an idiot?
Do you think that meat is labeled "tainted" and "untainted," and then sold to certain income classes accordingly?
How do you think that works, that the cashiers at grocery stores ask every meat purchaser which income class they belong to (or are buying for) and then allow or refuse the sale based on the answer? Do you think that a single processing facility's product cannot get sold as various brands, in various forms, and to restaurant chains as well as grocery stores?
If you think the answer to any of these things is yes, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you -- cheap.
DFab420 (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-02-11 06:46 PM
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9. Hahahahahahaha you really think they separate high class meat and low class meat in a slaughterhouse
You have a very strange view of the world.
bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-02-11 08:09 PM
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11. Acutally they do, They do it by buyer and lots.
Well, well.
People shouldn't buy ground turkey to begin with; real turkey is cheap, and safer anyway.
Same thing with other processed meats.
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-02-11 04:45 PM
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2. Cook all ground meat thoroughly.
Always. Shit happens without warning.
Diarrhea is a symptom of food poisoning. Did the OreBoy make a funny on purpose?
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I'd take her concern seriously.
She is, after all, an expert on meat.
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-02-11 04:34 PM
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Nine Illnesses in Texas Linked to Ground Turkey
So don't put your turkey meat on the ground. Seems simple enough.
:whistling:
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Moosepoop (1000+ posts) Tue Aug-02-11 06:42 PM
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8. Are you an idiot?
Do you think that meat is labeled "tainted" and "untainted," and then sold to certain income classes accordingly?
They're liberals... of course that's what they think. :rotf:
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Stargazer sure got smacked down...that was an incredibly stupid post.
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FSIS says you should always cook your turkey to an internal temperature of 165 Fahrenheit, and always reheat leftovers to the same temperature.
Is there anyone anywhere, except vegetarian nuts, who doesn't look forward to eating cold turkey and dressing at least twice a day
until the bird is finished?
Not being able to do that is one reason I resist travelling over the holidays, and it's why I always search for a bird over 25 pounds.
If this bureaucratic warning made any sense, millions would be hospitalized every Thanksgiving.
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If they saw you eating cold dressing, they would clutch their chest, and keel over with the vapors. Every so often, the food police will float the trial balloon, "Americans should consider NOT stuffing their turkey altogether." The public then howls (and laughs), and they go back and sit in the corner.
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If they saw you eating cold dressing, they would clutch their chest, and keel over with the vapors.
Not just dressing, OYSTER dressing. We always mix in two or three cans of oysters.
If I had to choose, I'd keep the dressing and do without the bird.
Damn, my mouth is watering just thinking about it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sure.
Ten bucks a month in food stamps.
Just like $24,000 a year for a registered nurse.
If they get SSI that is possible. Sounds unbelievable but it is true.