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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on July 31, 2011, 11:50:34 PM
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Have you ever wondered how the boring, dull, utterly unimaginative husb2SparklytheClown, the man forced by his wife to use a litterbox in the basement to avoid offensive odors in the upstairs, got to be that way? Wonder no more.
How would you like to share a house with this soul destroyer:
Sparkly (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-31-11 10:57 PM
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Perspective: This "debt crisis" is all a small move in a much bigger game (rant) I'm old enough to remember all the decades Republicans RAN UP the debt, while claiming to be "conservative" on finances.
Democrats always fought deficit spending and the national debt; Republicans always grew them.
Reagan's great re-election campaign motto: "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?" My reply was always, "If I maxed out my MasterCard, I might feel better off too, but there's a bill to pay." The man CREATED the monster we've been fighting ever since.
Mondale had the guts to tell the truth: Tax cuts + massive military spending = debt. "Trickle-down economics" are fiction.
Here's some of Mondale on the debt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rF-b9p0oe0
("I see this as a test of leadership, and I think the American people know the difference." We all know how that turned out. They didn't.)
Bush I was Reagan III, although even he had called Reaganomics "Voodoo Economics."
Here's Dukakis, Bush I's opponent, on the debt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFoZBgFt_DQ&NR=1
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah......on, and on, and on, and on, and on....blah
But do we all remember what happened in Bush the Lesser's campaign against Vice President Gore?? Bush II ran on a platform of "tax relief" -- the surplus meant we OVERPAID!! (Debt? What debt?) And everybody wanted their damn $300 check for their trip to WalMart -- meanwhile the fat cats would get enormous windfalls of cash.
People swallowed the same stupid lies again, hook line and sinker:
"Tax cuts always increase revenues!!"
"We have to make sure the rich are okay, because you never got a job from a poor person, did you??"
"And a new one: "We always have to have a debt. It isn't economically smart to pay it off."
Surely the history of BushCo's reign is recent enough that everyone can remember how they squandered the surplus and doubled the Reagan Monster of debt; how it was proven once AGAIN that Republicans aren't "conservative" with money at all; how it was proven once AGAIN that tax cuts do NOT "increase revenues;" how giving rich people more wealth does nothing to create jobs; how it's all about the buying power of the lower and middle classes; how the idea that wealth "trickles down" is utter nonsense; and so much more (including the popular idea that unfunded wars are super for the economy -- what budget?).
Does anyone else remember how hard Republicans fought balanced budgets when BushCo pushed massive tax cuts in 2001? Democrats offered amendment after amendment about "triggers" to roll back even .5% of the increase on 1% of the top tax bracket IN CASE of rising debt, war, national disaster, Social Security bankruptcy, Medicare cuts, etc. etc. etc... -- and one after another they were shot down. Nothing -- NOTHING -- mattered as much as those tax cuts for the wealthy.
Time after time they raised the debt limit. Time after time they kept up the massive spending along with massive tax cuts for the rich, insisting this was the way to go. Deficit spending was par for the course for Republicans.
......blah, blah, blah, blah, on, and on, and on, blah, blah, blah.......
Today's script is right where they want it -- "Cut spending, not Medicare!!" "Raising the debt ceiling?!? WhoEVER heard of that??!?"
There's one straight line to where they want to go. Any deviance from that line is called "compromise."
Compromise is just a little curve in the road leading straight to the cliff ahead. It's like Thelma and Louise, except it's "Dumb and Dumber," flying past all the warning signs with idiotic right-wing bumper stickers all over the car.
The last one applied: "Keep your Big Government Tax Increases off my Medicare and Social Security."
And there -- over the cliff -- go the United States of America.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1626947
Wow, I have a headache, and all I did was copy-and-paste.
It makes me almost, but not quite, feel sympathy for My Cousin Vinny.
Because I suspect he wrote this stupid, whiny screed, logged on as DUmmy Sparkly.
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How did we run up the debt when the Democrats were in control of the House for how many years?
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How did we run up the debt when the Democrats were in control of the House for how many years?
How dare you mention that Dems controlled the House and thus the purse strings throughout the Reagan-Bush years!
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Whomever coined the term "Tax and spend democrat" didn't do so with malice. It was based in fact.
Maybe the stinky Dude will read this and pose the question of how the democrat party came to be known as "Tax and spend democrat" in a different campfire.
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Sparkledude, how can Reagan's defense spending (Which actually accomplished something, i.e. winning the Cold War) still be affecting us if your boy Clinton created a new era of budget heaven as your fellow travelers maintain?
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Wow, you had to snip that a couple of times? She's using more than her fair share of the internet. I don't think it's Stinky in disguise, because there are no f-bombs, and he's simply incapable of not littering his posts with "****."
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Oh now, the sparkling husband dude's wife is just talking junk, and she knows it.
The sparkling husband dude's wife is old enough to have been in college during the 1970s--if not the late 1960s--when the then-current economic thought was, "we don't have to worry about the deficit or the national debt because it's money we owe ourselves."
That line was pushed by both Democrats and professors of economics.
"We don't have to worry about the deficit or the national debt because it's money we owe ourselves."
For decades--beginning sometime during the New Deal--that was the attitude.
Especially the attitude of Democrat politicians.
But then on January 20, 1981, something really odd happened; an abrupt about-face that occurred like, within a hundredth of a second or something, and the Democrats suddenly alleged that deficits and the national debt do matter.
It's true that Reagan, the first Bush, and the second Bush ran up some really massive deficits--but with Vast Teddy and the sordid carbuncled flaccid decadent corrupt Tipsy O'Neill in charge of much of Congress during the administrations of the first two, and then Bela Pelosi in the third administration, they had a great deal to do with those massive deficits.
The sparkling husband dude's wife is just blowing hot air, and she knows it.
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How dare you mention that Dems controlled the House and thus the purse strings throughout the Reagan-Bush years!
I know! that's silly of me, isn't it?
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Sparkly
Democrats always fought deficit spending and the national debt
Then Democrats should have no problem with wanting a Balanced Budget Amendment.
Oh, they do?
Then you must be lying......... again.
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Oh now, the sparkling husband dude's wife is just talking junk, and she knows it.
I think you may be overestimating the woman's intellectual capacity, benevolent and kind-hearted gentleman that you are.
After reading that, the cat does have a certain attraction as a companion, at least a dude can get a word in here and there with the cat.
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Then Democrats should have no problem with wanting a Balanced Budget Amendment.
Oh, they do?
Then you must be lying......... again.
How well I remember.
The year prior to January 20, 1981, the Incompetent One ran up the biggest deficit in American history (of course, peanuts when compared with today), and Republicans en masse opposed it, but being in the minority, couldn't do a thing about it.
The Dems, led by Vast Teddy and the drunken old Tipsy O'Neill, constantly said, "oh, it doesn't matter, because it's money we owe ourselves."
But then suddenly, oddly, on January 20, 1981, it started to matter.
Fortunately, there haven't been any burnings of old college textbooks (pre-early 1980s), or of pre-January 20, 1981 newspapers and magazines, so the historical evidence is still with us.
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How dare you mention that Dems controlled the House and thus the purse strings throughout the Reagan-Bush years!
Why has the house not submitted a budget in well over 2 years?
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Why has the house not submitted a budget in well over 2 years?
They're ashamed of their spending habits, much like one spouse hiding the credit card bill from the other.
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They're ashamed of their spending habits, much like one spouse hiding the credit card bill from the other.
Exactly...and it's the main reason John Spratt, chairperson(for the feminazi's) of the budget committee got thrown out on his ass.
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^ And we have your state to thank for that. :)
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its common knowlege craps fix problems by throwing money at it. solving a problem gives em all headaches.
BTY i never waste my time going over there. then i get headache's